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Ford teamed up with Webasto to build a new Ford Mustang EV concept car for the SEMA auto show in Las Vegas.  The car is a showcase for what is possible with electrification and emerging technologies in that field.

The show car comes with more than 1,000 lb.-ft of torque and 900 horsepower routed through a 6-speed manual transmission. The car has been lowered an inch and sits on 20-inch staggered forged wheels. Under the hood is a dual-core electric motor with dual power inverters. Power comes from an 800-volt Webasto battery system that can discharge a mega-watt of electrical energy.  At 800 volts, the Mustang Lithium runs at twice the voltage that most electric cars on the road today use. That allows the system to be lighter, more powerful, and generate less heat. 

The transmission is a drag-strip version of the Getrag MT82 6-speed with billet internals to handle the huge torque.  

Mustang Lithium features a unique set of drive modes that apply a controlled amount of torque for different driving scenarios including: Valet, Sport, Track and Beast, and are instantly available on demand via a custom in-dash 10.4-inch touchscreen display.

Ford is investing $11.5 billion in electrified vehicles by 2022, including an all-new Mustang inspired EV SUV and a Ford F-150 BEV.

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Ford Mustang Lithium?

Im glad Ford got serious about mental health and got the Mustang some help.  Bi-Polar disorder needs to be addressed. 

I knew there was a problem ever since that Mustang II waaaay back in the '70s

 

 

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Will fizzle and drop from sight... like the vaunted e-COPO that found ZERO bidders when it went on sale a while back, after rumors put its value at some ridiculous price.  LOL./not mad

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Have to say this is a very sharp Mustang and so glad to see Ford is using their vested investment in the 800V system that is being deployed across Europe here in the US to leap frog everyone.

Like the interior allot.

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What would be really cool is if Ford actually built something like this as a production car.  Concept cars come and go and are quickly forgotten.   Build a Mustang GTE or Shelby GT-800E...

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1 hour ago, Robert Hall said:

What would be really cool is if Ford actually built something like this as a production car.  Concept cars come and go and are quickly forgotten.   Build a Mustang GTE or Shelby GT-800E...

I like the idea of an EV with a manual transmission. 

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A manual transmission EV is pointless, and the manual transmission sales rate in general is pretty low.

I would like to see them make an EV Mustang though.

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I think it's great to make a manual transmission EV. It is just to excite the driver/buyer. Regardless of how pointless it may or may not be, it would be more engaging for the driver and us enthusiasts don't want that to go away. 

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Ford Mustang Lithium is stupid in so many ways... but a yuge percentage of the fun of driving a manual is LISTENING TO THE ENGINE as you wind it out through the gears.  No engine sound = ZERO fun, so what is the point?

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2 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Ford Mustang Lithium is stupid in so many ways... but a yuge percentage of the fun of driving a manual is LISTENING TO THE ENGINE as you wind it out through the gears.  No engine sound = ZERO fun, so what is the point?

You do have a point. I shift by ear, not by watching the tach. I wonder how that would work in this.

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15 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Ford Mustang Lithium is stupid in so many ways... but a yuge percentage of the fun of driving a manual is LISTENING TO THE ENGINE as you wind it out through the gears.  No engine sound = ZERO fun, so what is the point?

Yet you FAIL AGAIN in saying there is no engine sound. Electric's have their own unique sound and I am sure there will be choices of having lots of insulation so it is quiet as a tomb or not.

Ignore it and bad mouth it all you want, but the current round of electric performance auto's do have a very amazing sound that is very different than ICE and much cleaner to boot.

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Feds are putting the finishing touches on the law requiring all EVs to emit a measured, artificial 'engine' sound up to 19 MPH.
Of course- much above that most factory passenger vehicles only emit wind & tire noise; just like electrics.
There's not going to be much measurable difference once the mandate is in place, other than in park/at idle.

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On 11/9/2019 at 1:34 PM, balthazar said:

Feds are putting the finishing touches on the law requiring all EVs to emit a measured, artificial 'engine' sound up to 19 MPH.
Of course- much above that most factory passenger vehicles only emit wind & tire noise; just like electrics.
There's not going to be much measurable difference once the mandate is in place, other than in park/at idle.

Still nothing to shift by ear by. 

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