Ford News: Ford Mustang Mach-E Leaks Out Ahead of LA Auto Show

[Drew Dowdell 11,298 2 Vehicles]

Leaks of privileged information happen.  In this case, Ford pushed these images and pages to their consumer website in a way which was easy for the folks at MachEForum to find. 

Here are the basics, the best of each spec, the 2021 Ford Mach-E will have up to 300 miles of driving range, run 0-60 in mid-three second range, and have optional all-wheel drive.  You're going to prioritize those specs though because you won't be able to get them all in the same car.

All models of Mach-E will be able to recharge 47 miles in 10 minute of DC fast charging in a 150-kw charger

The base model is called Select and starts at $43,895. It is powered by a 255 horsepower, 306 lb.-ft of torque motor in the rear.  You can opt for all-wheel drive which increases torque to 429lb.ft. This model gets an EPA estimated range of 230 miles and a 0 to 60 sprint of mid 5-seconds. If you qualify for the full $7,500 federal tax credit, the price can be as low as $36,395. It's equipped with 18-inch wheels

Next up is the Premium trim, starting at $50,600. This comes with 19-inch wheels and again in RWD or AWD configurations. EPA estimated range is 300 miles on the RWD model and 0 to 6- remains mid 5-seconds. 

There will be a trim called California Route 1 which is an extended range rear-wheel drive model. It has an EPA range of 300 miles and a mid 6-second range sitting on 18-inch wheels.

Then there is the top of the line GT, starting at $60,500. EPA range is estimated at 235 miles and a mid 3-second range. It comes standard with all-wheel drive. 

For early adopters, there is a Mach-E First Edition. It offers three exterior colors, including and exclusive "Grabber Blue Metallic", interior contrast stitching, First Edition scuff plates, brushed aluminum pedals, and red brake calipers. This model seems to be a happy medium on range and performance with a 270 mile EPA estimated range, mid 5-second 0-60, AWD, and 19-inch wheels. 

Inside the Mach-E is a large Telsa-like center screen though with a single physical dial at the bottom. A simple dash and slim gauge cluster sit behind a 3-spoke wheel badged with the Mustang logo. 

Ford will officially share more information on Sunday night, and the specs listed above are subject to change. We'll keep you updated as more information comes out. In the meantime, scroll down to see all of the information grabbed in the screenshots.

 

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[frogger 568]

Can not say I'm a big fan of the side profile, windows make me think of the previous gen ~2014 Tucson.  Hopefully looks nicer in person/in better images.

 

 

[dfelt 4,971 5 Vehicles]

 EXCITEMENT

[ccap41 3,513 3 Vehicles]

300 mile estimate is a little weak, IMO.

The Euro estimate is like 370 miles. I figured it would be 340-350 miles.

300 miles, AWD, mid 5 second car, that would be a pretty sweet daily. 

[Robert Hall 5,406 4 Vehicles]

On 11/15/2019 at 10:57 AM, frogger said:

Can not say I'm a big fan of the side profile, windows make me think of the previous gen ~2014 Tucson.  Hopefully looks nicer in person/in better images.

 

 

I see some Model X in the greenhouse...but smaller side windows.   I wonder how the door handles work..this still looks very 'concept car' in the pics..

Edit: these pics came up today...strange door handles.  Why do car makers think they have to reinvent door handles just because it's an EV?  Why not normal door handles?

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/first-real-life-photos-of-mach-e-exterior-and-interior.62/#post-819

Edited November 17 by Robert Hall

[USA-1 198 2 Vehicles]

Mach-E or Model Y? Model Y gets my vote, especially with the Y Performance range of 280mi to the Mach-E GT of 235.

https://electrek.co/2019/11/15/tesla-model-y-vs-ford-mustang-mach-e-specs-comparison/

 

Edited November 15 by USA-1

[Drew Dowdell 11,298 2 Vehicles]

Saw this somewhere else...

They should make a bigger version called the Grand Mach-E, but it would mostly sell in Florida. 

1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

300 mile estimate is a little weak, IMO.

The Euro estimate is like 370 miles. I figured it would be 340-350 miles.

300 miles, AWD, mid 5 second car, that would be a pretty sweet daily. 

The WLTP estimate is always more ambitious than the EPA estimate.  But the Bolt can beat the EPA estimate easily on a nice spring day. 

[ocnblu 2,460 6 Vehicles]

Such a weird car, with a blasphemous name.  Just a disaster in the making.  Comical!

[balthazar 7,577 3 Vehicles]

Initial, cropped images looks interesting, but I have a feeling real world shots will make it look bloated. Esp if I can't get the Mustang car out of my mind's eye.
The tax credit possibility remains a 'ghost carrot' that -unless you're a tax idiot- you'd have to intentionally over-withdraw a full fiscal year ahead of your purchase in order to get. Most people won't see anywhere near $7500- might as well forget that 'discount'.

[smk4565 1,077]

It looks good from the front, the back end looks a bit odd though.  I think the pricing seems pretty strong for this being an SUV and the range and performance offered.  It is similar to Model 3 pricing, but in SUV form, so it could sell well.

[oldshurst442 2,703]

35 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Initial, cropped images looks interesting, but I have a feeling real world shots will make it look bloated. Esp if I can't get the Mustang car out of my mind's eye.
The tax credit possibility remains a 'ghost carrot' that -unless you're a tax idiot- you'd have to intentionally over-withdraw a full fiscal year ahead of your purchase in order to get. Most people won't see anywhere near $7500- might as well forget that 'discount'.

I dont understand by what you mean.  Are there obstacles to get the EV tax rebate?  And why do these obstacles exist?

 

[Robert Hall 5,406 4 Vehicles]

1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

It looks good from the front, the back end looks a bit odd though.  I think the pricing seems pretty strong for this being an SUV and the range and performance offered.  It is similar to Model 3 pricing, but in SUV form, so it could sell well.

Same price range as the Explorer also.  I assume this is a two row? 

[balthazar 7,577 3 Vehicles]

3 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

I dont understand by what you mean.  Are there obstacles to get the EV tax rebate?  And why do these obstacles exist?

It’s not a rebate. It’s a tax credit. In the fiscal year you buy the EV, IF you owe MORE than $7500 on your federal income tax, you can take that reduction against what you owe. Only in the single designated year. If you owe the Gov’t $800, that’s your EV credit; $800. If the Gov’t owes you money back, your EV credit is $0.

And most people do not intentionally set their witholdings up so the Gov’t pockets $7500+ from their biweekly checks. That’s like $290/check.

So when your Model 3’s sticker says $54,321, you are signing loan paperwork to pay $54,321 (down payment, etc, aside).

This is why I feel Tesla and any others are being grotesquely / borderline criminally misleading by saying that $54,321 Model 3 is $46,821.

’Ghost carrot’.

Edited November 16 by balthazar

[ocnblu 2,460 6 Vehicles]

A Mocker-E of the Mustang name.  Perpetuated by the people who should be nurturing and protecting it.

[oldshurst442 2,703]

6 hours ago, balthazar said:

It’s not a rebate. It’s a tax credit. In the fiscal year you buy the EV, IF you owe MORE than $7500 on your federal income tax, you can take that reduction against what you owe. Only in the single designated year. If you owe the Gov’t $800, that’s your EV credit; $800. If the Gov’t owes you money back, your EV credit is $0.

And most people do not intentionally set their witholdings up so the Gov’t pockets $7500+ from their biweekly checks. That’s like $290/check.

So when your Model 3’s sticker says $54,321, you are signing loan paperwork to pay $54,321 (down payment, etc, aside).

This is why I feel Tesla and any others are being grotesquely / borderline criminally misleading by saying that $54,321 Model 3 is $46,821.

’Ghost carrot’.

Ah....

You see. I was calling it a rebate, because I really thought it was a rebate...

Tax credit.  And whatever you owe the government. THAT is your "rebate" come tax time. If you owe the government $800, and you bought an EV during that fiscal year, you dont pay the Feds a dime BECAUSE you bought an EV?  THAT is how it works, right?  

Each person's credit is different and not applicable right away either. Very misleading indeed. 

Thank-you.  

Edited November 16 by oldshurst442

[Robert Hall 5,406 4 Vehicles]

Reality is complex. 

[balthazar 7,577 3 Vehicles]

Reality is purposefully misleading.

[daves87rs 1,081]

Still confused by the looks.........

[Robert Hall 5,406 4 Vehicles]

Sounds like the reveal is going to be at 6pm PST tonight...odd, I guess during Sunday Night Football?  I won't be back home until at least 11 EST so I'll miss it live...oh well.

 

[ocnblu 2,460 6 Vehicles]

Oh well.  I think I'll miss it too.