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6 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

That Corvette Jay Leno/Tadge  video  said that they sold more than expected C7s in the Japanese market. Australians it seems are salivating for the  C8 as GM will be doing right hand drive C8s for the UK, Japan and Australia. 

The C7 broke new ground for new buyers.  I agree with you that the C8 will fetch even more. And not just with the younger buyers market criteria.  But buyers from all walks of life in all kinds of marketing criteria. The C8 will get the Euro snob, will get the Japanese sports car enthusiast. The C8 will get the guy that collects Ferraris and drives his Ferraris once a year, who daily drives another Euro snob car, but now he gets a chance  to actually enjoy DAILY DRIVING a mid-engine exotic-like sports car with no fear of it breaking down or getting it dinged with all the mid-engine car snobbery with his VETTE!!!  The C8 will get Porschefiles too.  

I hope Corvette could keep all these new buyers. That means that the C8 should NOT be a disappointment in the quality control area...

 

 

 

Exactly. I can tell you quality is top notch inside and out from the one I sat in at the reveal event I went to for the C8. They had hardcore Porsche guys already placing orders and Ferrari and R8 guys rolling in to check it out. Pretty impressive turnout really.  

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9 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Porsche had to add SUVs because they going insolvent on the sports cars.
No one was demanding a Porsche SUV, but thankfully for Porsche, they're taking up the volume slack in a big way.

The SUV market demand not Porsche necessarily, but they saw the demand and jumped on it. The VW Touareg was the same exact SUV as the Cayenne, AWD chassis and all, only part of the body that was different was the front clip, so big savings for VW in that sense. Kind of like GM does with the fullsize SUV triplets minus S'clade taillights. 

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^ It was published in an interview with some Porsche mouthpiece / exec; that Porsche would have gone under if they didn't do CUVs.
Demand bought them, but they appeared to keep everything else from disappearing.

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7 hours ago, Robert Hall said:

It will be interesting to see the reaction when Chevy unveils the C9---a Corvette EV CUV.  

I will be one to sign up for a Corvette inspired SUV/CUV mid size EV. :metal: 

SS Trailblazer was the last of a breed that needs to come back. Might as well expand the Corvette family to be performance race inspired EV cars and SUV/CUVs.

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Musk likes the Mach E

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He's gotta stick his nose in.  He needs to STFU.

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13 hours ago, USA-1 said:

All the luxury marques you mentioned were really forced to go with an SUV model(s) because the market demanded it. Ford already has SUV's with Ford and Lincoln so they're covered.

I think this Mach-E madness is more about a fear that the "muscle car icon" will lose it's image by becoming a line of different models like an SUV that is also an EV and the pony car V8 purists aren't good with that.  

Exactly my point which seems most people don't see.

Porsche made an SUV but didn't call it 911.

That is the whole point, not the fact that Ford made EV crossover, but the fact that it called it a Mustang.

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15 hours ago, USA-1 said:

All the luxury marques you mentioned were really forced to go with an SUV model(s) because the market demanded it. Ford already has SUV's with Ford and Lincoln so they're covered.

I think this Mach-E madness is more about a fear that the "muscle car icon" will lose it's image by becoming a line of different models like an SUV that is also an EV and the pony car V8 purists aren't good with that.  

They were but they were 100% sports car brands just like the "Mustang" brand has always been. 

People shall not fear that the 2-door car will not be going away. This is just an addition. 

15 hours ago, Robert Hall said:

1700 is nothing, though...would be interesting to know how many are owners of the current car..

I think it would have to be well into the millions to have even the slightest impact on Ford. 

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On 11/19/2019 at 2:27 AM, ocnblu said:

Nah, I have this thing called the interwebs.  I can go onto it and READ Ford Motor Company's page on, like, Facebook and stuff.  And there is a multitude of other postesses over onto there too, on other pages.  Not too many positive commentators over there, Bub.  Maybe like 3 in Loonburg, California, but that's it.

Strange but what I see posted by Facebook puts it clearly in the FakeNews Category after all the CEO loves to sell lying ads on Faceplant, worst company every.

11 hours ago, regfootball said:

Maybe we will get a mustang Mach transit connect too

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I will compliment the photoshop person as that is a far better nose on that minivan than what is currently on there.

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If the only thing people are complaining about is the name of the vehicle, they did a good job. 

They created conversation and headlines all over the place and the only negative is the name. 

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2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

They were but they were 100% sports car brands just like the "Mustang" brand has always been. 

People shall not fear that the 2-door car will not be going away. This is just an addition. 

I think it would have to be well into the millions to have even the slightest impact on Ford. 

They are all Makes not a Model within a larger brand like the Mustang that's the main difference. They didn't have another brand to fall back on with SUV's/CUV's like Ford or Chevy so they were forced into building SUV's because the market demanded them. 

Obviously, I was being facetious about the signatures. 😂

6 hours ago, ocnblu said:

He's gotta stick his nose in.  He needs to STFU.

He just wants to make it like every other automaker is following his lead. Musk is a pretty narcissistic guy.

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Im only 5 minutes into this video when I decided this video needs to be shared on this thread. Afterhours Autoline.

It addresses the complaints about the naming in the first 5 minutes and I guess the reasons why Ford named it the way they did.  At 5 minutes in, reasons why: Mustang is a recognizable name, folk with families could now own a "Mustang" and 4 doors sell and make money....but rest assured, the 2 door Mustang we all love aint going away, au contraire, more special editions are coming...and these products are too hot to talk about just yet...be patient about them...

Ill continue listening to it now as well to find out more... 

Enjoy.  

 

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Edge-E would have been more appropriate if they wanted to make a fake CUV to emulate an authentic one.

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13 hours ago, ocnblu said:

He's gotta stick his nose in.  He needs to STFU.

Show us on the doll where Elon touched you. 

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7 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

Show us on the doll where Elon touched you. 

I am not getting anywhere near your blow-up doll, Bucko.

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15 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

Edge-E would have been more appropriate if they wanted to make a fake CUV to emulate an authentic one.

I stated the same thing! Edge-E (Edgy) The Ford Edgy. HA!

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Edgy..like that.  When I had my diesel Escort 30+ years ago I nicknamed it 'Esky'.    And I could see referring to an Encore as 'Ency' or 'Enky'.. 

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• RE the Autoline video; the Charger reference doesn't fit because there was a what - 20 year break in the Charger line? The Charger wasn't "changed"; there WAS no Charger in the general vicinity of the 4-dr Charger.
• RE the Mach-E - the more I see of it the more I like it (I do prefer the non-GT nose tho).

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^^^ Me too on the nose. 

I agree with your Charger comment. 

 

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https://www.thedrive.com/news/31154/47-percent-of-people-wish-the-2021-ford-mustang-mach-e-had-a-different-name-survey

"Autolist questioned approximately 1,000 members of the general public shopping for new vehicles and found that 47 percent disapprove of using the Mustang nameplate on an electric crossover. Only 19 percent supported Ford's choice to call the Mach-E a Mustang, and 34 percent assigned themselves to neither camp."

Note that survey respondents weren't Change.org petition-signing Mustang hardliners. These were Averages Joes and Janes who, given a choice between the Mach-E and the Tesla Model Y, said they'd still pick the Ford 51 percent of the time. While opinions of Tesla among the surveyed group appeared to be mostly positive, Ford-allying respondents said they trusted the Blue Oval and its service network more than they did Tesla, which they weren't certain has much of a future."

 

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4 hours ago, ykX said:

https://www.thedrive.com/news/31154/47-percent-of-people-wish-the-2021-ford-mustang-mach-e-had-a-different-name-survey

"Autolist questioned approximately 1,000 members of the general public shopping for new vehicles and found that 47 percent disapprove of using the Mustang nameplate on an electric crossover. Only 19 percent supported Ford's choice to call the Mach-E a Mustang, and 34 percent assigned themselves to neither camp."

Note that survey respondents weren't Change.org petition-signing Mustang hardliners. These were Averages Joes and Janes who, given a choice between the Mach-E and the Tesla Model Y, said they'd still pick the Ford 51 percent of the time. While opinions of Tesla among the surveyed group appeared to be mostly positive, Ford-allying respondents said they trusted the Blue Oval and its service network more than they did Tesla, which they weren't certain has much of a future."

 

According to this survey, 51% want the Mustang Mach e over the Tesla at 49%.

https://electrek.co/2019/11/21/survey-consumers-split-between-ford-mustang-mach-e-tesla-model-y/

My wife likes the looks and name of this EV, wants to see one in person as a possible replacement to our SS. Interesting 🤔

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33 minutes ago, dfelt said:

According to this survey, 51% want the Mustang Mach e over the Tesla at 49%.

https://electrek.co/2019/11/21/survey-consumers-split-between-ford-mustang-mach-e-tesla-model-y/

My wife likes the looks and name of this EV, wants to see one in person as a possible replacement to our SS. Interesting 🤔

They are talking about exactly same survey.

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      Ariya will also feature wireless Apple CarPlay® and Android Auto™ standard to help drivers seamlessly integrate their smartphone into their vehicle experience.
      Spacious, flat-floor cabin
      The Ariya's striking looks represent Nissan's new design language, Timeless Japanese Futurism. It is characterized by a distinctive Japanese approach, conveyed in a simple yet powerfully modern way.
      Nissan's designers took advantage of the car's new EV platform, which allows for a flat floor, and its compact climate control components to give the Ariya a very spacious cabin. The lounge-like interior, featuring thin profile Zero Gravity seats, provides a welcoming and comfortable environment for driver and passengers alike.
      "Nissan was a pioneer in the world of mass-market electric vehicles a decade ago with LEAF, setting the standard for affordable, mass-market electric vehicles. We expect nothing less for the new Nissan Ariya," said Gupta. "While the driving exhilaration of its acceleration and torque levels is undeniable, the Ariya offers balanced, customer-centric technology that is perfect for everyday use."
      Nissan Ariya Key Specifications
      Passenger configuration
      2-row, 5-passenger
      Drive configuration
      Front-wheel drive or e-4ORCE all-wheel drive
      Platform
      Newly developed Alliance CMF-EV
      Powertrain
      Single (FWD) / dual (e-4ORCE AWD) electric motor, Externally Excited Synchronous Motor (EESM)
      Battery capacity
      63 kWh / 87 kWh usable (total 65 kWh / 90 kWh)
      Thermal management
      Active battery management system
      Estimated range
      Up to approximately 300 miles (preliminary Nissan estimate)
      Level 2 charging
      Up to 7.2 kW
      DC charging type
      CCS standard up to 130 kW
      Output
      160 kW – 290 kW
      Torque
      221 lb-ft – 443 lb-ft
      Wheelbase
      109.3 in.
      Overall length
      182.9 in.
      Overall width
      74.8 in.
      Overall height
      65.4 in. – 65.7 (depending on roof rack)
      Cargo volume
      16.5 cu ft (FWD)
      14.6 (e-4ORCE)
      Wheel size
      19-inch or 20-inch
      Tire size
      235/55R19 or 255/45R20
      Available interior features
      Lounge-like space created by flat, open floor and slim-profile Zero Gravity seats; large, minimalist instrument panel with integrated capacitive haptic switches; innovative center storage box with fold-out tray, adjustable center console
      Available Advanced Driver Assist (ADAS) Technology
      ProPILOT Assist 2.0 featuring hands-off highway operation with Driver Monitoring System
      Available safety technology
      Nissan Safety Shield® 360 with Automatic Emergency Braking with Pedestrian Detection, Blind Spot Warning, Rear Cross Traffic Alert, Lane Departure Warning, High Beam Assist and Rear Automatic Braking
      Model configurations
      Ariya standard and long range (FWD)
      Ariya standard range e-4ORCE and long range e-4ORCE (AWD)
      * NOTE: All specifications are as of July 2020 and are subject to homologation. Model names, features and specifications may vary by market. Subject to final validation.

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