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Great read on how the Mach e got the mustang name.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/23/heres-how-the-ford-mustang-mach-e-earned-the-iconic-pony-badge.html

Totally agree with Ford on this. Love their response to the Bolt, Leaf, Etc.

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Love this write up and how they specifically tested a 6'6" tall person in the back seat that still had a couple inches of head room left unlike the tight fitting Tesla X.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/ford-mustang-mach-e/

I am excited for Ford to Eat up some of Tesla's Lunch and Dinner! :D 

Love this part of the story at the above link.

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Some of the pleasure you get from driving a high-performance car is the noise it makes. A husky exhaust sound or open-element air filter can heighten the experience. Ensuring the Mach-E delivers an emotional drive, Palmer said there will be no "fake sounds." What it'll do instead is boost the noises this SUV's powertrain already makes, producing something that's "complex, multitimbral" but also authentic. The last thing they wanted to do is pump fake V8 exhaust sounds out of it. If you were worried about that, your concerns are, thankfully, unfounded.

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My uncle and cousin, who are both Mustang hard liners and have multiple classic mustangs are warming to the idea of this. 

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9 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

My uncle and cousin, who are both Mustang hard liners and have multiple classic mustangs are warming to the idea of this. 

Ew, why tho?

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48 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

Ew, why tho?

Superior acceleration, less maintenance, cheaper cost to fuel, 21st century tech, lots of reasons to love it.

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1 minute ago, dfelt said:

Superior acceleration, less maintenance, cheaper cost to fuel, 21st century tech, lots of reasons to love it.

A multitude more reasons to loathe it.

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10 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

My uncle and cousin, who are both Mustang hard liners and have multiple classic mustangs are warming to the idea of this. 

Those are some Hardcore Ford "fanboys" right there! :D Invite them on so they can chat with Errol Hassol! (decipher it) 😂

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I suspect my brother (who has owned at least dozen Mustangs over 50 years) wouldn't like it.  

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3 hours ago, Robert Hall said:

I suspect my brother (who has owned at least dozen Mustangs over 50 years) wouldn't like it.  

Ask and record his response so we can all enjoy it here. :P 

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Based on info captured by other reporting outfits, Ford is planning on 50,000 Mach e a year to begin and then ramps from there as batteries become more available. That makes it 4,166 plus per month. Would for sure kill all the others in sales if they hit this for the first year.

OK, some clarity, sales of the Mach e goes on first in the US and Europe with a split of about 25,000 to Europe and 25,000 to the US.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1126230_how-many-mustang-mach-e-electric-suvs-will-ford-build-we-ve-got-numbers

We now know where the electrics will be built in their new contract.

 

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@Drew Dowdell Where you able to sit in the Mach E at the LA auto show? What was the general buzz about it, did it seem like folks were excited for it?

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Upon reading this story, I have to agree that the Mach-e will allow the Mustang name to live on as sales have been dropping on a rate of 10% a year.

https://www.autonews.com/blogs/mach-e-ford-ensures-mustang-badge-will-live#adunit_path=opinion/blogs

That kind of drop means that the hard core fans are not buying enough to keep the ICE Mustange alive as is and that active people who want performance but in more of a CUV form will be the buyers not just now but in the future. IMHO

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What are you talking about?   While overall sale figures for Mustang are down (like pretty much everything in the auto industry) Ford still sold almost 100k Mustangs in 2019.  In comparison Caddilac sold 150k TOTAL ALL cars and SUVs, more Mustangs were sold than GM sold Equinoxes which is GMs bread and butter at the moment, this is more than Infiniti sold OVERALL all their cars and crossovers.

Ford doesn't need to use this nameplate for this electric crossover, they are still doing pretty good without it.

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26 minutes ago, ykX said:

While overall sale figures for Mustang are down (like pretty much everything in the auto industry) Ford still sold almost 100k Mustangs in 2019. 

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Tesla sold around 150,000 Model 3's in the USA last year and Musk thinks the Model Y CUV will outsell it (I imagine it will cannibalize a lot of 3 sales given the 3 is the default ~50k electric car currently).  The Mach-E is about a direct competitor as you can get for the Y, will be interesting how many people choose it over the Tesla.

 

14 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

The Camaro is probably on more precarious ground.. <50k sales, no new ICE RWD platform in site, not popular internationally compared to the Mustang.

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, frogger said:

The Camaro is probably on more precarious ground.. <50k sales, no new ICE RWD platform in site, not popular internationally compared to the Mustang.

 

Yeah, I didn't see international sales but I think the Mustang was doing pretty well over in Europe but I don't know what kind of number defines "pretty well". 

I think the Mustang has been so iconic for ford that they would be willing to lose *some* money on it before actually calling it over. 

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FWIW, it looks like they sold 113,066 Mustangs globally in 2018 so even a 10% drop still keeps them over 100,000 units. Just in the US, there wasn't a 10% drop though, -4.42%. Using -5% as an estimate, we can lightly assume they sold ~107,400 for 2019, globally. 

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