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3 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I took this out on the battlefield of Black Friday shopping.  It has a surprisingly tight turning radius for such a big vehicle which makes it easy to park.  The automatic cruise control and lane centering make highway driving a breeze,  I just set the cruise to 65 mph and the Palisade tracked whatever the car in front of me was doing.  I only needed to use the brakes on the final pull into the mall parking lot. 

Getting up and into the Palisade is a bit of a jump. It could use running boards.  Lowering the third row happens electronically at the touch of a button and the seat lay flat. 

The digital dash is awesome, and I find myself using the turn signal even more than I normally would just to get a view of what is beside me. 

And yes, I do think the light pipes both back and front riff on the Cadillac vertical light scheme. I wasn't saying that tongue in cheek.  The interior riff somewhat off of Benz with the wide dual displays.

The Koreans are trying to develop their own styling, but some of it still is a homage to other brands. 

Thanks for clearing that up Drew, it's very obvious to most on here what the Koreans are doing. Palisade, Telluride, G90 (current and upcoming) etc...   

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4 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Palisade I think.  Palisade has a smoother ride, just as much power, and a better finished interior... plus a lot more tech for the price. 

I'm quickly used to the gear selector in the Palisade. I find it especially easier when doing a 5 point turn like I need to when getting the thing out of my driveway.  The only reason to go to the Enclave over this is raw cubic feet.  If you need the extra space, the GM twins or the Pilot are there.  But as a luxury vehicle, this out-Enclaves the Enclave. 

I think driving both the XT6 or even another luxury make/model back to back with this Palisade would be the best way to compare them. Were they both low profile tires with 20" or 22" inch wheels? If both were loaded with all options you'd definitely get more from a luxury make and model than a Hyundai including the dealership experience, that's why they are a luxury car/CUV because of what you get for your money.  

8 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

Trailblazer, *cough Nissan Sidekick cough*. 
 

I do find it funny that you think you speak for people when you say “most”. Kind of like how you have spoken for me by calling me a fanboy of five different brands in the last two months? 

Pot calling Kettle...

Go back and read the post about the G90 and how pretty much every comment was "looks like an Acura" or "Audi" or "Volvo". You even joined in because it was the consensus that it's a knockoff.

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7 minutes ago, USA-1 said:

I think driving both the XT6 or even another luxury make/model back to back with this Palisade would be the best way to compare them. Were they both low profile tires with 20" or 22" inch wheels? If both were loaded with all options you'd definitely get more from a luxury make and model than a Hyundai including the dealership experience, that's why they are a luxury car/CUV because of what you get.  

With a starting price that is $20K higher than the Hyundai, it better be $20K better than it but the fact that the Hyundai can even be mentioned along side the Cadillac seems to contradict that assessment. No amount of “dealership experience” makes for that either especially if one has actually had a Cadillac dealership experience worth that kind of coin. 
 

It reminds me of the comparison made between the Vette and cars like the 911. Sure, the Vette competes with it (and then some) but is a Chevrolet dealership experience anywhere close to a Porsche dealership experience? Is the build even comparable? 

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On 11/28/2019 at 12:02 AM, smk4565 said:

Hyundai reliability

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3 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

With a starting price that is $20K higher than the Hyundai, it better be $20K better than it but the fact that the Hyundai can even be mentioned along side the Cadillac seems to contradict that assessment. No amount of “dealership experience” makes for that either especially if one has actually had a Cadillac dealership experience worth that kind of coin. 
 

It reminds me of the comparison made between the Vette and cars like the 911. Sure, the Vette competes with it (and then some) but is a Chevrolet dealership experience anywhere close to a Porsche dealership experience? Is the build even comparable? 

You keep missing the fact that it's Hyundai trying to copy the design cues of Cadillac not the other way around, which is the only reason Cadillac was brought up in the discussion. 

Yep, $20K is about the premium you'd pay for a Cadillac compared to a Chevrolet or Lincoln to a Ford or Lexus to a Toyota. Good job, Gold Star for the day.

How about sticking to the subject instead of changing it to fit your diatribe of whiny BS..."Oh I want everyone to think the Korean cars are awesome and anyone that thinks different well they're a fanboy and I'm going to tell them"...what a joke.   

I've owned luxury and non luxury makes and models so I know first hand what I'm talking about with the whole experience...do you?  If not, then do yourself a favor... 

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Anywho (because this nonsense has gone on long enough and one brand brick walls never learn), the Pallisade shows that Hyundai has no problem blurring the lines between mainstream and premium (borderline luxury) CUVs. Ten yearS ago, no one would have given them time of day much less have them being compared to much pricier brands like Cadillac. It has taken a page out of the Corvette playbook and shown that it will gladly play out of its weight class (or price class in this case) and do it fairly well even if one brand fanboys refuse to see it. As long as It’s reliability is at or above par (Hyundai and Kia have been above par overall the last few years), it will be a solid seller for Hyundai. Read into that what you will. Call me a “Korean fanboy”, like an idiot, if you will. It doesn’t change any of the facts here. 

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Certain posts should just be blocked and deleted from these threads...completely useless, unrelated, and bizarre.

Stay on point. And in the meantime, watch THIS. Truly one of the best "wow" overviews, audio, sounds, etc. from a day in the life of a Palisade:

https://youtu.be/o_-V08gVnKU

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18 hours ago, caddycruiser said:

And there you have it...precisely. Great real review.

While everyone here continues to talk in circles about "stolen styling cues", they miss the point...these utes out-Enclave the Enclave. One of many examples. Credit where its due.

Such a competitive 7 seater market. All the better for every buyer, as long as they keep brand blinders off, and just try everything. "I'm better...no you're not...yes I am" segment worth test driving all.

 

Question...I've forgotten from my travels, and rentals. Does Hyundai/Kia side blind spot alert actually beep?

On, and you signal, beep that is. Still baffling why that's so different brand to brand.

Cross traffic monitor definitely beeps and it buzzes the steering wheel.  I haven't had the chance to check the blind spot monitoring for you. 

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I've cleaned up this topic of the trolling posts.  The rules here are simple... talk about cars, not about each other.  Further breaking of that rule will lead to warning points being issued and possible suspensions. 

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41 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Cross traffic monitor definitely beeps and it buzzes the steering wheel.

That's an automatic disqualification in my rule book.

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Just now, balthazar said:

That's an automatic disqualification in my rule book.

You can shut most of them off. My past luxury coupe had the full safety alert pkg., rear cross traffic alert tone and buzzing seat cushion, buzzing seat for lane departure and slowing traffic ahead too, emergency braking with buzzing seat, flashing light in windshield and alert tone all very annoying. I shut everything off except the Adaptive Cruise Control it was a very cool feature when on the highway.

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31 minutes ago, balthazar said:

That's an automatic disqualification in my rule book.

A lot of that stuff is coming standard now. 

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'Shutting them off' is going to depend on the corporation and perhaps the model- commonplace on non-mandated features.
And at some point in the near future they will all be mandated. That's where I'm out.

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18 hours ago, balthazar said:

'Shutting them off' is going to depend on the corporation and perhaps the model- commonplace on non-mandated features.
And at some point in the near future they will all be mandated. That's where I'm out.

Just stating that you have the option to shut them off now. DOT probably won't mandate anything that actually takes over the car for several more years.

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2 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Cross traffic monitor definitely beeps and it buzzes the steering wheel.  I haven't had the chance to check the blind spot monitoring for you. 

Good to know. It's highly bizarre and strange that GM, Ford, etc. think blind spot monitoring should consist of tiny, barely visible amber dots, that do nothing...and make no alert.

Yet, other normal brands are visible and if on, and you still signal "beep beep beep" as they should, to prevent side issues. My Hyundai rentals have all been lower end without many options so I've never tried them...

Thanks.

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Hey guys, look, it's an article and questions about the Palisade...

How about focusing on the Palisade and staying there?

After watching the driving review of this above on YouTube, definitely get it. Quick, quiet, smooth, effortless, features all over, and that shifter & console is actually well done. Really like the wide screen with CarPlay as well.

Makes many other choices in these classes seem plebian and 3rd world. Competition is GREAT.

Great choice. The pricing on these is truly impressive, and I'm glad Hyundai/Kia realized that, and continue to have both demand and "I'll pay MSRP, as even that's a great deal" from the public.

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33 minutes ago, caddycruiser said:

Good to know. It's highly bizarre and strange that GM, Ford, etc. think blind spot monitoring should consist of tiny, barely visible amber dots, that do nothing...and make no alert.

Yet, other normal brands are visible and if on, and you still signal "beep beep beep" as they should, to prevent side issues. My Hyundai rentals have all been lower end without many options so I've never tried them...

Thanks.

A few Hyundai YouTube videos describe as I would expect. Lights on if active, and beep beep if active and you still signal. Good, the way it should be:

 

 

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1 hour ago, balthazar said:

'Shutting them off' is going to depend on the corporation and perhaps the model- commonplace on non-mandated features.
And at some point in the near future they will all be mandated. That's where I'm out.

Wonder if ya can do like the early 70's when seat belt buzzers first were put in, you just unplugged the sensor in the bottom of the seat so it never buzzed when someone got in and did not connect the seat belt.

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I pulled the 'key-in' buzzer out of my '94.
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I assume the 'turn off' feature of these must be activated upon each & every start of the vehicle (default: 'ON'). I'd have to know a fuse could be pulled.

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21 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

Im grateful that evolution or God, it dont matter to me which God or what evolution, make my head go more or less 180 degrees  from side to side and my eyes have a very wide peripheral  vision while having quite decent depth perception and a very multi-functional brain  to figure out my own blind spot/lane changing things.  

Good old trusty mirrors, 3 I might add, do the rest. 

Keep in mind, one vehicle I learned to drive in, was one of these...

Image result for 1988 chevy cargo van"

Regular wheelbase, 2 biggish side mirrors, 1 windshield mirror and only 2 windows waaaaaaay in the back there to figure it all out...   

As humans as of late, in the last decade or so, we DEFINITELY use our brains and common sense less and less. We rely tooooooooo much on these dumb a$$ electronic gizmos...

I remember a time when the dumb GPS told us to turn left now, and dumbazzes turned left NOW and either hit buildings or fell off cliffs or even went as far as entering other countries and got lost...using GPS...got lost using GPS directions...

I cant for the life of me comprehend such nonsense, this whole need to rely on electronics for our personal safety.

Our ancestors used their wits, eyes, sight, smell and BRAINS to get out of trouble...we need beeps and bongs from a gadget made in China  😷  with cheap,shytty, shoddy phoqing parts...😢   😱

Im getting sick to my stomach with this shyte!!! 🤒

 

And here, again, we're off topic...

Back...to...the...Palisade...

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I don't care for the Palisade.  I like the Telluride more.  Less fluff, puff and stuff.  Who wants a grille that looks like a Greek temple anyhow?  And that rotary shifter... don't care for it on Mopars or Fords, so no, I don't like it here either.

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29 minutes ago, caddycruiser said:

And here, again, we're off topic...

Back...to...the...Palisade...

Just some banter there dude.

5 hours ago, caddycruiser said:

Good to know. It's highly bizarre and strange that GM, Ford, etc. think blind spot monitoring should consist of tiny, barely visible amber dots, that do nothing...and make no alert.

I believe you veered off that path before I did, dude.  Im just offering  my 2 cents on that there post.

Its up to you to cash in on it or just throw it out...  Do what you please with it.  I really dont care...

BUT...when is life just one straight path?  It is not!!!  Life would be boring if it be just straight on top of all that.

Enjoy life's little curves, hills and slopes dude.  And my post did not harm you or the community in any way either...

 

 

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43 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

I don't care for the Palisade.  I like the Telluride more.  Less fluff, puff and stuff.  Who wants a grille that looks like a Greek temple anyhow?  And that rotary shifter... don't care for it on Mopars or Fords, so no, I don't like it here either.

We should all worship at a Greek temple me thinks...

Sacrifice a baby lamb in the name of Zeus, we all eat and drink like Gods and philosophise the night away, wirhout a care in the world.  Unless of course those pesky Persians are knocking at our doorstep, we get in ourHyundai Palisade and mow them down!!!

Wait...maybe a different scenario...

We get into our Dodge Challengers and tell those Brits to PHOQUE OFF!!!  

AMERICA!  HELL YEAH!!!

 

@caddycruiser

I  mentioned the Palisade.  You happy?   

PS:  You could talk about the Palisade. Ill cash in your 2 cents. Or maybe not. 

But doncha think its a little more fun the way I do it?

I mean,  WTF is soooooo exciting about a Palisade that you want me to discuss?

You want me to wax poetic about a generic all too common CUV?

Somebody discussed electronic safety shyt.

I, in turn, wanted to make sure we, as a society, stop with this nonsense with the fear of us needing electronic shyt thrown our way.  We got a brain,  lets start using it!!!  For real!!!

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I don't mind the electronic safety gadgets.. had them in a couple rental cars..was neat the way the seat vibrated in a Tahoe when I went over the center line on a winding AZ road a few years ago.    My current Jeep doesn't have them, but my next undoubtably will...progress.

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