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Haven't had to leave the house in a few days, but sitting here watching the local news, they were showing footage of traffic downtown in the snow and saw a clean 1st gen gold Chevy Lumina 2dr turning at a light...

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Have not seen a Mercury Mariner in like forever.

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what is going on with the windshield

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10 hours ago, ocnblu said:

what is going on with the windshield

I use RainX so I rarely use wipers, the rain just flys off the moment I start moving.

Gotta love construction, with the Lite Rail going in here, my windshield got nailed by a big rock and cracked. Now I gotta replace that, but gonna wait till winter is over.

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Spotted on February 20th ... delay in posting

Either a '77 or '79 Bonneville base sedan - pimpy red interior (look closely for the crank windows on the passenger door) - Pontiac rally wheels - in great shape for a 40+ year old car

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On 2/17/2020 at 4:28 PM, balthazar said:

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Love most Firebirds but that front fascia ruined the '77 and '78 models, IMO. Had it been a little more subtle, it might have worked.  Their switching over to rectangular lamps was a good design decision, though.

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Better late than never.  Here are some sightings from 4 days in Eastern Sicily in early February ... when things were still "normal" there.

By order of comic relief:

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1.  a Subaru doubling as a police car (they have different types of law enforcement and carabinieri is one of the different departments).  A Subaru?!?

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2.  They have gone nuts with these weird pastel enamel colors on small cars over there, like this pale blue-green on Fiats, Renaults, Citroens, etc.  This one is in front of a funeral home.  You can also see that people have been spending more money on their cars over there.

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3.  This made for the best laugh.  It must have belonged to the guy who worked inside the gas station and ran the credit card.  I can't believe they sell these in Sicily.  I don't see a big V8 under the hood and I wouldn't assume an automatic transmission is a given.

It's fun to spot cars that are out of the ordinary from what you'd expect in a far-away place.

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The Ram has a Cummins "C" emblem on the fender, so it's a diesel inline-6 torque monster/appropriate power for such a rig as that.

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Impossible that Ram was photographed in Italy; “the streets there are way too narrow for a full-size truck”.

I’ve read that claim dozens of times- it must be true.

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4 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Impossible that Ram was photographed in Italy; “the streets there are way too narrow for a full-size truck”.

I’ve read that claim dozens of times- it must be true.

I have been in Italy.  Except highways, driving that RAM will be like driving semi in NYC

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20 minutes ago, ykX said:

I have been in Italy.  Except highways, driving that RAM will be like driving semi in NYC

 

Yeah...there are definitely many places it couldn't go.  I saw a few Tahoes in Rome when I was last there in '04.  But far more Grand Cherokees and other midsize two-row SUVs like Range Rovers and Mercedes G-classes.     When I drove a Mercedes A140 (1st gen A-class-- the tiny subcompact one) from Rome to Salerno via Pompeii and the Amalfi Coast there were some roads and streets where it felt too big... 

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22 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

Yeah...there are definitely many places it couldn't go.  I saw a few Tahoes in Rome when I was last there in '04.  But far more Grand Cherokees and other midsize two-row SUVs like Range Rovers and Mercedes G-classes.     When I drove a Mercedes A140 (1st gen A-class-- the tiny subcompact one) from Rome to Salerno via Pompeii and the Amalfi Coast there were some roads and streets where it felt too big... 

That is where the gov needs to rebuild the damn roads. Stop trying to save every little thing built eon's ago.

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Ram could definitely fit thru the street pictured above.
And they do drive semi's in NYC.

Sure- some people would be uncomfortable doing either.

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6 minutes ago, dfelt said:

That is where the gov needs to rebuild the damn roads. Stop trying to save every little thing built eon's ago.

You mean destroying beautiful old buildings to make wide roads so people could drive their big ugly crossovers? Sure ...

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12 minutes ago, dfelt said:

That is where the gov needs to rebuild the damn roads. Stop trying to save every little thing built eon's ago.

Heh-heh...with some of those narrow mountain/coastal roads there is no room for more than a narrow path...  and in the ancient cities some streets narrow down to little more than an alley.

I drove this road along the Amalfi Coast, actually scraped mirrors w/ a passing car in one small village...saw traffic stopped so a tour bus could negotiate a tight turn.   Driving in Italy is adventure, i really want to go back...

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@Robert Hall Great pictures! We have been at Amalfi Coast 2 years ago, it is beautiful.  I was considering renting a car just so I could drive on those roads but the parking in those villages is basically non-existent, so didn't want to bother.

I loved Rome, would like to go back and I would like to see the north of Italy.

I guess due to FCA there is surprising amount Jeeps, mostly some Grand Cherokees and a lot of Renegades. 

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Just now, ykX said:

@Robert Hall Great pictures! We have been at Amalfi Coast 2 years ago, it is beautiful.  I was considering renting a car just so I could drive on those roads but the parking in those villages is basically non-existent, so didn't want to bother.

I loved Rome, would like to go back and I would like to see the north of Italy.

I guess due to FCA there is surprising amount Jeeps, mostly some Grand Cherokees and a lot of Renegades. 

Yeah, I've been twice..once to Rome, Naples, Pompeii, Florence and the Amalfi Coast.   Spent a  week in Rome and a few days around the other areas.  Second trip was up north to Milan--from there went to Venice, Turin (the Italian National Motor Museum was great), Lake Maggiore and Lake Como...

I want to go back and see Pisa, Cincq Terre and the Italian Riviera..thinking that could be a French Riviera trip also.

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12 hours ago, dfelt said:

That is where the gov needs to rebuild the damn roads. Stop trying to save every little thing built eon's ago.

I disagree BIG TIME!!!

For many reasons.

And its not so much about "saving every little thing" but as much as "how the phoque are we gonna rebuild the infrastructure with soooooo many houses and business cramped into such a little space?"   

And THAT is only for a few yards squared.     Multiply that by a block or two, on one street, and then duplicate that on another street and you'll get what Im talking about.  

If not, Ill explain further. 

In other words, a few thousand miles of houses and businesses need to be destroyed to make room for bigger roads...and where do these houses and businesses go?   Its not as if Italy or Greece has wide open spaces like Canada or the US has.

In other words, every square inch in Italy and in Greece is accounted for.  And with literally THOUSANDS of years of development on every square inch in those countries, there isnt much room for huge American style cars.  Remember, Italy and Greece were built with human hands and legs and were helped with horses and donkeys.  Unlike in North America where the majority of its cities were created with the help of the railroad and the gasoline powered automobile...    

Montreal and Quebec City...  

You could see the difference with these two North American cities.  They were founded and built like old world Europe. And things are tight for the automobile in the old parts. But as both cities grew with time and became modern with the modern times,  the cities were built with the automobile in mind. Yet...because these cities are still kind of old world, both Quebec city and Montreal have not very wide streets as compared to say...Los Angeles or Las Vegas. 

Athens...Rome...

When it comes to North America's oldest cities, Montreal, Quebec City, Boston, New York, Philadelphia...are still babies in human terms.

 

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Amalfi Coast...never been. Ive been to Santorini.  Very comparable as both civilzations are built INTO the mountain side...

Amalfi Coast + Naples - Dream of Italy

 

How does the Italian government BEGIN to demolish the mountain to build bigger roads to accommodate American  cars? 

And then...does the government destroy what is already built there for 1998 Dodge Ram dulies? 

Maybe my sarcasm filter is on the fritz, but...yeah...  

I dont think so Tim! 

12 hours ago, ykX said:

You mean destroying beautiful old buildings to make wide roads so people could drive their big ugly crossovers? Sure ...

And then I see it has already been covered...

 

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1 hour ago, oldshurst442 said:

Amalfi Coast...never been. Ive been to Santorini.  Very comparable as both civilzations are built INTO the mountain side...

Amalfi Coast + Naples - Dream of Italy

 

I have been to Greece, but not to Santorini.  I know that it's built around a volcano that "sank" into the Mediterranean and that the sand on the beach is a blackish color.

The Amalfi Coast (this ^) and the coastline further up at the Cinque Terre are more verdant, so more like the Greek Ionian islands (i.e. Corfu) and Sporades islands (i.e. Skiathos) where the hillsides are fairly green, even during the summer.  In the Cyclades, which is what most people associate with Greek islands, the look is very parched ... a lot like Southern California's interior during the hot summer.

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The Greek islands are overrun by tourists.  Their populations of actual inhabitants is low.  Half the population of Greece lives in and around Athens.

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I haven't been to Greece...my sister took  a cruise/tour to Santorini and other islands 20 years ago after divorce #3, went to Athens and also Istanbul.    Greece is on my to-do list. 

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Italy is on my to-do list.

As is France, England (all of the UK Ireland and Scotland is a must too)  Germany.  

France. Paris is a city I gotta see, but its Southern France that tickles my fancy the most.  Marseille and the French Riviera. 

Why stop there though?

I NEED to see Spain, and Portugal and Hungary and Austria and the Northern European countries like Sweden and Norway and Finland. 

I cant wait when I get to that time of my life when Ill be doing my world travelling with my wife. And kids if they want to join us. They will be adults by then and if their adult life will allow them.  Ive got a couple of trips planned before they become independent from us though. This year was one. But Covid got in the way.  Next year, my daughter is going to Lucerne and Zurich then to  and Italy (Venice, Florence,  Pompei, and Rome) on a high school trip and we were thinking to continue the trip as a family by joining her in Rome when the school trip is over and we as a family continue on some sort of Italian vacation. Details still need to be thought out.  Hopefully by then, Covid will allow us to travel.

The school trip is already paid for. If canceled. We will do this trip as a family anyway when travel will allow us to post Covid. 

 

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Me too, I can not wait until we are able to relax and the max two week trips turn into two month trips where we can really just live elsewhere for a bit and not feel like we have to pack our days to get value out of the trip.  Not sure where I am looking forward to most.

 

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Our honeymoon (many years ago) was a 5 day tour around Greece and 3 or 4 days on Santorini.  Santorini was gorgeous, white and blue houses on black volcanic rock.  I rented a tiny car and one of the memorable things we did there was when we had a restaurant reservation on the other side of the island to watch a sunset and we were running late, so I really put the pedal to the metal scaring the hell out of my wife.  We made the sunset :)

Athens and Meteora monastery were very interesting, the rest of famous Greek places, like Olympia for example, was just ok, not that much left there.

Unfortunately this year all our plans are cancelled, unlikely will go anywhere.  Were supposed to go to Montreal in July and that is cancelled as well.  At best will go somewhere local.

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