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You might not be able to tell that the 2021 Ford F-150 is all new. The shape, basic dimensions, and ladder-frame chassis are the same as the outgoing F-150. But you need to look a bit deeper to find the changes and new features that the blue oval hopes keeps their truck on top.

PowerBoost? PowerBoost.

What PowerStroke is for diesels, PowerBoost is Ford's brand name for the new hybrid system available on the F-150. The system is comprised of the 3.5L EcoBoost V6, 35kW (47 hp) electric motor mounted in the transmission, and a 1.5-kwh lithium-ion battery pack. No details were given on power output or fuel economy, but Ford is targeting 700 miles on a single tank of gas and max towing of 12,000 pounds.

Generator? I Have My Truck.

Pro Power Onboard turns the F-150 into a generator to power various electrical devices no matter where you are. It comes standard on the Hybrid providing 2.4kW, or 7.2kW via an option. All engines except the base 3.3L V6 get it as a option that provides 2.0kW. There are two 120-volt, 20-amp outlets for the 2.0 and 2.4kW systems, and 7.2kW system boasts four 12-volt outlets and a 240-volt, 30-amp outlet for higher draw equipment.

You Want Tech!? We Have It and A Kitchen Sink as Well

Ford is going all-in on offering all sorts of tech on the 2021 F-150. It begins up front with the introduction of Sync 4 that brings forth faster processing power, better voice recognition, and over-the-air updates. An eight-inch screen will be standard on lower-end models, while a 12-inch screen is available on XLT and higher-trims. The larger screen also brings forth wireless CarPlay and Android Auto. 

Next up comes CoPilot 360 2.0, Ford's suite of active safety features. All models boast pre-collision assist with automatic braking, pedestrian detection, and automatic high beams. Move up to the XLT and above and you'll get lane-keep assist, parking sensors, reverse brake-assist, and a post-impact braking system. 

The biggest tech feature for the F-150 won't be out till sometime next year. That is Active Drive Assist which Ford announced recently for the Mustang Mach-E. Active Drive Assist is similar to Cadillac's Super Cruise where it allows for hands-off driving on divided highways that have been mapped by Ford - over 100,000 miles of these roadways in the U.S. and Canada according to automaker. The system also comes with a driver-facing camera that tracks eye and head movement to make sure the driver is paying attention. This system will be available via an OTA update, provided the F-150 is equipped with a prep kit that includes hardware to enable another safety feature, Intersection Assist that prevents drivers from accidentally pulling in front of oncoming traffic during a left-turn.

Other Details to Know

  • All engines carry over from the previous generation, which includes the 3.3L V6, 2.7L EcoBoost, 3.5L EcoBoost, 5.0L V8, and 3.0L PowerStroke Diesel.
  • No more six-speed automatic, all engines now come paired with an ten-speed automatic.
  • Ford will be offering eleven different grille designs, and fourteen wheel choices - ranging in size from 17 to 22-inches.
  • The front seats can recline up to 180-degrees.
  • Center console can transform into a work-area for a 15-inch laptop by opening and folding the lid. The transmission selector on floor console models folds down flat to make room.

We'll likely get more details dripped out before the 2021 F-150 arrives at dealers this fall.

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BUILT FOR GETTING THINGS DONE, FORD REVEALS THE TOUGHEST, MOST PRODUCTIVE F-150 EVER AND MOST POWERFUL IN ITS CLASS

  • All-new Ford F-150 takes America’s truck of choice for work and recreation to the next level, targeting to deliver the most maximum towing, payload, torque and horsepower of any full-size light-duty pickup, with ingenious features that make customers even more productive and new technology like over-the-air updates and SYNC® 4
  • New exterior design has a bolder and even tougher look, and an all-new interior provides more comfort, technology and functionality for truck customers, along with enhanced materials, new color choices and more storage
  • New available Tailgate Work Surface boosts productivity at the back of the truck, while new optional Interior Work Surface makes using a laptop or eating a meal more comfortable; available Max Recline Seats with nearly 180 degrees of recline help customers rest between jobs
  • Available Pro Power Onboard™ means customers can leave the generator at home and free up cargo space; there’s enough energy to power 28 average refrigerators, charge a bed full of electric dirt bikes or run an entire job site worth of tools
  • Class-exclusive 3.5-liter PowerBoost™ Full hybrid engine delivers Built Ford Tough capability – it is targeted to have the most torque and horsepower of any light-duty full-size pickup, at least 12,000 pounds of maximum available towing capacityᶧ and a targeted EPA-estimated range of approximately 700 miles on a single tank of gasᶧ

DEARBORN, Mich., June 25, 2020 – As America returns to work, Ford reveals its all-new F-150 – part of the F-Series lineup that’s been America’s choice for getting the job done for 43 consecutive years. The all-new F-150 is purpose-built to be the toughest, most productive F-150 ever and targeted to be the most powerful light-duty full-size pickup truck on the market.

“Since 1948, our hardworking F-Series customers have trusted Ford to help them get the job done,” said Jim Farley, Ford’s chief operating officer. “F-150 is our flagship, it’s 100 percent assembled in America, and we hold ourselves to the highest standard to make sure our customers can get the job done and continue to make a difference in their communities.”

The all-new F-150 raises the standard for all light-duty trucks. It targets the most towing, payload, torque and horsepower of any light-duty full-size pickup, introduces all-new features to increase customer productivity, has new connected vehicle innovations such as over-the-air updates that help keep F-150 at the forefront of purposeful technology, and an available all-new 3.5-liter PowerBoost™ hybrid powertrain with Pro Power Onboard™ – an integrated power generator.

“We see it as our duty to deliver not just what our customers want and need, but what they might have never thought possible,” said Craig Schmatz, Ford F-150 chief engineer. “The F-150 will be tougher than ever, and with fully connected over-the-air updates, it opens up a much wider range of potential enhancements – from system upgrades to feature offerings.”

Toughest F-150 ever
The all-new F-150 starts with a durable, proven foundation – a fully boxed high-strength steel frame with a high-strength, military-grade, aluminum alloy body. Every panel of the distinctive, rugged exterior is redesigned while maintaining its bold and tough signature look, including an updated headlamp design, new power dome hood and wrap-around bumpers. Higher front fenders, a tucked-in midsection and larger-diameter tires pulled out three-quarters of an inch create a stronger, more powerful stance on and off the road.

There are 11 grille options available across the series lineup, all differentiated in their design and all unmistakably F-150, plus new tailgate appliqués. Functional upgrades throughout include available LED headlamps and taillamps, and available full-length extended power running boards with kick switch that provide better truck-side cargo box accessibility.

The all-new F-150 is also the most aerodynamic ever. New active grille shutters, a new automatically deploying active air dam, and new cab and tailgate geometry all work together to reduce drag and improve fuel consumption on every truck.

The interior is completely redesigned to elevate truck owners’ experience with style, comfort, utility and technology. Featuring enhanced materials, new color choices and more storage, it is built around the functional needs of truck customers. Every surface has been thoughtfully designed, such as more soil-resistant two-tone seats for XL or the new standard dual glovebox.

F-150 introduces an all-new 12-inch center screen – standard on XLT high series and above – that allows customers to split the screen and control multiple functions simultaneously, including navigation, music or truck features. The landscape design strikes a balance between demands for technology accessibility and the greater convenience of physical buttons. An 8-inch touch screen, standard on XL and XLT standard and mid-series trucks, means every customer gets touch screen functionality and better rearview camera vision. Both screens feature access to the new digital owner’s manual, which can help all customers find the information they need more easily, including how-to videos for additional explanation.

An available new 12-inch digital gauge cluster features a large information-on-demand area, along with truck-specific graphics and animations that respond to the all-new F-150’s selectable drive modes and can display off-roading data and turn-by-turn navigation.

Most productive F-150 ever
Ford’s deep understanding of truck customers informs new features on the all-new F-150 that help take productivity to the next level.

Creating the ultimate durable, anywhere office, F-150’s new optional Interior Work Surface is ideal for signing documents, working on a 15-inch laptop or enjoying a meal when parked. It is available in both bench and captain’s chair seating configurations on XL to Limited. Knowing many customers prefer a console shifter, Ford has created a stowable unit for F-150, which easily folds into the center console with the push of a button and allows full access to the large work surface when in park.

Class-exclusive Max Recline Seats available on King Ranch, Platinum and Limited models provide ultimate comfort during downtime. Max Recline Seats fold flat to nearly 180 degrees, with the bottom cushion rising to meet the back cushion and the upper back support rotating forward up to 10 degrees for maximum comfort.

Available lockable, fold-flat rear storage adds a vault to the F-150 that extends the width of the rear seats. It’s as easy as lifting the bottom cushion of the rear seat, dropping valuables in and locking them away for safe keeping. Great for storing long items like fishing rods or blueprints, it even has a divider to keep gear organized.

Every all-new F-150 comes standard with new cleats mounted to the sides of the tailgate to act as tie-down locations for extra-long items in the bed. New clamp pockets are built in to the tailgate of every truck, so customers can hold materials down for precision work. An available flat Tailgate Work Surface also includes integrated rulers, a mobile device holder, cupholder and pencil holder.

Customers can keep going into the night with exclusive available Zone Lighting. This allows occupants to turn on and off individual sections of exterior lights through the SYNC® 4 screen or remotely with the FordPass app on their phone, so they never have to work, camp or do anything in the dark.

The all-new F-150 is the only light-duty full-size pickup to offer available Trailer Reverse Guidance and Pro Trailer Backup Assist. Trailer Reverse Guidance, made popular on Super Duty, uses the truck’s high-resolution cameras to provide multiple views along with helpful graphics that tell drivers which way to turn the steering wheel while backing up. Pro Trailer Backup Assist, which makes backing up a trailer as easy as turning a dial, continues on F-150.

Most powerful in its class
The all-new 3.5-liter PowerBoost full hybrid V6 powertrain is targeted to deliver the most torque and horsepower of any light-duty full-size pickup. Available on every trim level from F-150 XL to Limited, the no-compromise PowerBoost system – the only light-duty full-size pickup to offer a full hybrid – adds instant electric torque to Ford’s 3.5-liter EcoBoost® V6. It is targeting an EPA-estimated range of approximately 700 miles on a single tank of gasᶧ and will deliver at least 12,000 pounds of available maximum towing – equivalent to the average weight of 43 NFL linemen.

PowerBoost combines Ford’s proven EcoBoost engine and 10-speed SelectShift® automatic transmission with a 35-kilowatt (47-horsepower) electric motor integrated into the transmission, as well as software calibrated specially for truck use, including drive modes like tow/haul mode to help customers better manage towing heavy trailers.

The electric motor applies regenerative braking energy capture to help recharge the 1.5-kilowatt-hour lithium-ion battery. The battery is efficiently packaged underneath the truck, leaving the cab and cargo box of PowerBoost F-150 as spacious for passengers and cargo as other comparably equipped F-150 models. The system is capable of sustained battery usage at extreme outside temperatures or under heavy loads.

Power isn’t only important under the hood. Available Pro Power Onboard expands F-150’s capability by bringing generator levels of exportable power to work sites, camp sites and everyday life. Pro Power Onboard is available with a 2.0-kilowatt output on optional gas engines, while PowerBoost-equipped F-150 comes standard with 2.4 kilowatts of output or an optional 7.2 kilowatts of output. Power is accessible through in-cabin outlets and up to four cargo bed-mounted 120-volt 20-amp outlets, with a 240-volt 30-amp outlet on the 7.2-kilowatt version. The system even provides power on the move to charge tool batteries in between jobs.

Most connected F-150 ever
F-150 represents Ford’s next big step in bringing connected vehicles to customers. The all-new F-150 is North America’s first full-size pickup with standard over-the-air updates, helping customers’ trucks stay at the forefront of purposeful technology. These updates are bumper-to-bumper, and can include all-new functions and additional features throughout the life of the truck. They can support preventative maintenance, reduce repair trips, provide improved performance and ultimately result in more vehicle up-time. The majority of updates will be completed in under two minutes and can be performed at times customers choose, so they won’t have to put their lives on hold.

All-new SYNC 4 is standard, helping keep owners connected and make their days more productive with more natural voice control available as well as real-time mapping and customizable information on demand. The technology builds on more than 10 years of SYNC innovation by helping minimize distractions with hands-free voice control as well as core features such as making phone calls and selecting music. With twice the computing power of the previous-generation system, new SYNC 4 can wirelessly connect smartphones without the USB cord for seamless integration of Apple CarPlay™ or Android Auto™ compatibility as well as SYNC AppLink® apps like Waze and Ford+Alexa.

Customers can access more than 10,000 hours of on-demand content, live channels, ad-free music, sports, entertainment, news and personalized recommendations, and they can search for related content with available SiriusXM with 360L satellite and streaming service. The new eight-speaker B&O Sound System by Bang & Olufsen is available starting on F-150 XLT, while the optional 18-speaker B&O Unleashed system with speakers in the headliner and front headrests is available on F-150 Lariat, King Ranch and Platinum, and standard on Limited.

Ford offers complimentary technology including 911 Assist® that automatically alerts emergency responders in the event of an accident, and FordPass, a mobile device app that allows Ford drivers to start or unlock their vehicle from a distance, as well as control new truck-focused features like Zone Lighting, Trailer Theft Alert, Trailer Light Check and Pro Power Onboard.

Driver-assist technologies
All-new F-150 offers the latest driver-assist features as part of Ford Co-Pilot360™ 2.0. More features are now standard on XL, including Pre-Collision Assist with Automatic Emergency Braking and Pedestrian Detection to help avoid a possible collision with another vehicle or a pedestrian, rearview camera with dynamic hitch assist, auto high-beam headlamps and auto on/off headlamps.

F-150 also adds 10 new driver-assist features and is the only pickup to offer Active Drive Assist, which allows for hands-free driving on more than 100,000 miles of divided highways in all 50 states and Canada. Its advanced driver-facing camera tracks head position and driver eye gaze to enable hands-free driving when available. It allows owners on certain sections of pre-mapped, divided highways to drive with their hands off the steering wheel – if they continue to pay attention to the road ahead – granting them an additional level of comfort during long drives. The Active Drive Assist prep kit contains the hardware required for this feature, while the software to enable functionality, expected in the third quarter of the 2021 calendar year, will be delivered by over-the-air update or dealer visit. Separate payment will be required to activate full functionality at that time.

Other new available features include Intersection Assist, which detects oncoming traffic while the driver is attempting a left turn. If there is risk of a collision with an oncoming vehicle, F-150 will apply the brakes to mitigate or avoid it. F-150 is the only light-duty full-size pickup with available Active Park Assist 2.0, which handles all steering, shifting, braking and accelerator controls during a parallel or perpendicular parking maneuver while the driver holds down a button.

Every F-150 is proudly assembled at Ford’s Dearborn Truck Plant in Dearborn, Michigan, and Kansas City Assembly Plant in Claycomo, Missouri. The all-new F-150 will be available this fall.

ᶧProjected EPA calculated range. Actual range will vary. Final EPA-estimated ratings available later in the 2020 calendar year.


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Imma gonna git me one of those 392L Challengers!! 😆

Or a 6th gen Camaro.  That roof would fix the Camaro’s visibility issues. 

David could probably fit in a Popemobile.

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The generator, bed electric outlets, and rear seat storage area are useful.  They have that folding gear lever, but they could has just done a column shift or push button on the dash to free up console space.  Nice that the seats recline flat, but not sure how much that will get used.  They put some nice features in as far as usability goes and working at a job site etc.  The screen looks good and should add some function.

In the reveal they made no mention of powertrain s I assume all carry over engines, and nothing new but the hybrid which I imagine is like a Lincoln Aviator powertrain.  Nothing earth shattering but probably did enough to keep it the #1 truck.

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They never released information on the engine lineup but I believe they mentioned the engines by displacement.That might be a hint at bumps in power and/or efficiency as they're finally adding cylinder deactivation to the 5.0. 

12 hours ago, smk4565 said:

the hybrid which I imagine is like a Lincoln Aviator powertrain

I think it's a possible rumor that that powertrain might be a Raptor powertrain. We will see in a year or so. 

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12 hours ago, smk4565 said:

In the reveal they made no mention of powertrain s I assume all carry over engines, and nothing new but the hybrid which I imagine is like a Lincoln Aviator powertrain.  Nothing earth shattering but probably did enough to keep it the #1 truck.

Ahem,

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  • All engines carry over from the previous generation, which includes the 3.3L V6, 2.7L EcoBoost, 3.5L EcoBoost, 5.0L V8, and 3.0L PowerStroke Diesel.

 

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9 hours ago, ccap41 said:

They never released information on the engine lineup but I believe they mentioned the engines by displacement.That might be a hint at bumps in power and/or efficiency as they're finally adding cylinder deactivation to the 5.0. 

I think it's a possible rumor that that powertrain might be a Raptor powertrain. We will see in a year or so. 

Ram is supposed to announce a 707 hp Hellcat soon, that will be a lot more than the Raptor has.  I have to imagine GM will take a supercharged Corvette engine and put it in a Silverado.  

But the Cybertruck could be over 1,000 hp, so all bets are off.  But the Aviator powertrain could be half of what's in other trucks.

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3 hours ago, smk4565 said:

Ram is supposed to announce a 707 hp Hellcat soon, that will be a lot more than the Raptor has.  I have to imagine GM will take a supercharged Corvette engine and put it in a Silverado. 

707HP is also a lot more than the Ram has.

the Cybertruck could be over 1,000 hp, so all bets are off. 


Hummer IS going to have 1000 HP, so the teslawedge is already DOA because it looks like a cardboard 'car' the neighbor kids built.

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3 hours ago, smk4565 said:

GM will take a supercharged Corvette engine

That would be called either LT4 (650HP) or LT5 (755 HP)  

But Ford has a 7.3 liter pushrod V8  (yeah....like the Dodge and Chevy motors, but THIS one has got 7.3 liters(445 glorious, no replacement for displacement cubic inches)  out muscling the other two.  And what is GREAT with this engine is that it is said that with a few tweaks here and there...600 NATURALLY ASPIRATED horses could be EASILY  had...

Now...because this engineès block is cast iron...THAT means it COULD handle superchargers and turbos and THAT means that the magical 1000 horsepowers could be attained quite easily...  

Which also means that if push comes to shove, Ford could couple that with an electric motor to possibly add another 100-200 electric horses to the mix.  I dont think Ford is ready to say lights out just yet.  (At least with the trucks...) 

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

That would be called either LT4 (650HP) or LT5 (755 HP)  

But Ford has a 7.3 liter pushrod V8  (yeah....like the Dodge and Chevy motors, but THIS one has got 7.3 liters(445 glorious, no replacement for displacement cubic inches)  out muscling the other two.  And what is GREAT with this engine is that it is said that with a few tweaks here and there...600 NATURALLY ASPIRATED horses could be EASILY  had...

Now...because this engineès block is cast iron...THAT means it COULD handle superchargers and turbos and THAT means that the magical 1000 horsepowers could be attained quite easily...  

Which also means that if push comes to shove, Ford could couple that with an electric motor to possibly add another 100-200 electric horses to the mix.  I dont think Ford is ready to say lights out just yet.  (At least with the trucks...) 

 

 

 

The TRX is a 1500 and not a 2500, right? 

I VERY highly doubt Ford would put the 7.3 in a F150 and it would be left for their SD lineup. It doesn't need the whole EPA MPG certification and they probably want to leave it that way. If they wanted big power, they'd likely take the supercharged 5.2 or supercharge the 5.0. 

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20 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

The TRX is a 1500 and not a 2500, right? 

I VERY highly doubt Ford would put the 7.3 in a F150 and it would be left for their SD lineup. It doesn't need the whole EPA MPG certification and they probably want to leave it that way. If they wanted big power, they'd likely take the supercharged 5.2 or supercharge the 5.0. 

True.

But I wanted to wax poetic about the 445 cubic inch pushrod V8 and the decision to make that engine available for sale to all. 

And the only way I could have done that, was to slightly skew the details in my favour. 

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1 hour ago, oldshurst442 said:

True.

But I wanted to wax poetic about the 445 cubic inch pushrod V8 and the decision to make that engine available for sale to all. 

And the only way I could have done that, was to slightly skew the details in my favour. 

 

 

Huh? It's a 7.3L truck engine--an alternative to the diesel for the Super Duty, nothing interesting, not going to be used in a car...and no cubic inches, that's been an obsolete measurement for at least 40 years..

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Horsepower wars will be on is all I am saying.  And they’ll do it because they can charge $100k for a pickup and get a lot of profit margin which these guys need because sales could be bad for a year or two.

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19 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

Huh? It's a 7.3L truck engine--an alternative to the diesel for the Super Duty, nothing interesting, not going to be used in a car...and no cubic inches, that's been an obsolete measurement for at least 40 years..

Arent we talking about trucks?  We are, arent we?   I know I am...

  I never mentioned about where that 445 CI engine will be  put it...

But...you are WRONG to call it a truck engine...only for trucks...because 

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/a30753008/fords-73-liter-v-8-can-make-600-naturally-aspirated-horsepower-with-basic-mods/

 from the link...

Ford's 7.3-Liter V-8 Can Make 600 Naturally-Aspirated Horsepower With Basic Mods

The giant gasoline V-8 in Ford's new Super Duty pickups can make huge naturally-aspirated power—and it can fit in a Fox-body Mustang.

 

 

We also learn that, while the engine is quite a bit heavier than a 5.0-liter Coyote or a 351 Windsor, it's capable of cranking out some serious power with just a few small tweaks—588 horses, 508 lb-ft.

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I know you would be laughing...

But what's the beef?

And you know...displacement has gone up for some of the world's most super-est sports cars since 40 years ago.

The Porsche 911 from a 2.7 went to a 3.0 to a 3.3 to a 3.6 and the Turbo I think is 3.8 liters.

The Ferrari lineage V12 has gone from a 5.0 liter to 5.5 liter  to a 6.0 liter V12 to a 6.3 liter to the Superfast's 6.5 liter in that 40 year time fram.

Lamborghini  Ill start it with a late 1970s  Countach...

Has gone from a 4.8 liter to a 5.2 liter to a 5.7 liter to a 6.0 liter to a 6.2 liter to today's 6.5 liter...

Now...I agree with you that displacement is no longer the macho thing on the streets to brag about. Turbos and superchargers were that talk in the 1990s and today, which in themselves are displacement equivalents as engines are air pumps and displacement sizes are just measures of volumes of air the engine displaces and turbos and superchargers just ram more air into the engine to compensate from the lack of air displacement from downsizing...

But you would think that Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche would have really downsized their engines in the last 40 years especially the way you present your argument to me...

Ill do Corvette...

In the 1970s, Corvettes did have a 5.0 liter option, but since the C4 it has been a steady 5.7 liter.  But the SBC has increased its displacement slightly since then to 6.2 liters.    Again, its crazy to think that both Ferrari and Lamborghini have bigger displacements in their offerings today and when you consider what was happening in the 1960s with our Italian Supercars and our American Muscle Cars....

 

 

 

 

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44 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

Horsepower wars will be on is all I am saying.  And they’ll do it because they can charge $100k for a pickup and get a lot of profit margin which these guys need because sales could be bad for a year or two.

Sure.

And that is all I was saying too.

Ford aint hurtin' from the lack of horsepower.   They got options.  

Whether Im wax poeting about Ford's new 7.3 liter V8 crate engine or their 760 HP supercharged 5.2 liter Predator engine (which is 5 more horsepower than GM's LT5 at the moment) Ford is doing just fine.

Lack of sales is  with an increase of their already high debt load is another story all together. But they arent the only ones in that boat.   All car manufacturers  face that problem right now.  

 

 

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21 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

I know you would be laughing...

But what's the beef?

 

Ford already has great performance V8s available in the Mustang, with the regular 5.0 and 5.2 Voodoo/Predator in the Shelbys....a cast iron truck engine wouldn't make sense... aftermarket applications are another thing...

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Shyte...

Im behind the times...

Porsche's 911 GT3/GT3 RS has a 4.0 liter. 

https://www.caranddriver.com/porsche/911-gt3-gt3-rs

Pretty impressive 500-520 naturally aspirated horsepower too.  That still doesnt change the fact that since 40 years ago, Porsche's boxer engine has increased 1.3 liters and it just seems funny to me that a 2019 GT3 has no turbo help for more horsepower, but rely on pure engine displacement to achieve horsepower...

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1 minute ago, oldshurst442 said:

Shyte...

Im behind the times...

Porsche's 911 GT3/GT3 RS has a 4.0 liter. 

https://www.caranddriver.com/porsche/911-gt3-gt3-rs

Pretty impressive 500-520 naturally aspirated horsepower too.  That still doesnt change the fact that since 40 years ago, Porsche's boxer engine has increased 1.3 liters and it just seems funny to me that a 2019 GT3 has no turbo help for more horsepower, but rely on pure engine displacement to achieve horsepower...

And then they have all the turbo variations in the Turbo, GT2, GT2 RS, etc...lots of variety.

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1 minute ago, Robert Hall said:

Ford already has great performance V8s available in the Mustang, with the regular 5.0 and 5.2 Voodoo/Predator in the Shelbys....a cast iron truck engine wouldn't make sense... aftermarket applications are another thing...

But...

Originally, I wasnt talking about Mustangs. I never mentioned Mustangs.  I never mentioned anything BUT the 7.3 liter V8.  Just continued on about the supposed lack of horsepower in Ford's truck line-up... 

1 minute ago, Robert Hall said:

And then they have all the turbo variations in the Turbo, GT2, GT2 RS, etc...lots of variety.

Sure. The 911 comes in all kinds of flavours which mirrors their engine availability for the 911.    A very good thing. 

Its still doesnt change the fact that Porsche's Boxer 6 now displaces 4 liters. Up from 2.7 40 years ago... 

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3 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

 

Its still doesnt change the fact that Porsche's Boxer 6 now displaces 4 liters. Up from 2.7 40 years ago... 

Yes, they have evolved over time.

4 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

But...

Originally, I wasnt talking about Mustangs. I never mentioned Mustangs.  I never mentioned anything BUT the 7.3 liter V8.  Just continued on about the supposed lack of horsepower in Ford's truck line-up... 

 

Horsepower doesn't matter in trucks, though.  It's all about the torque, hence the very torquey turbo diesels in the Super Dutys, etc.

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Back on the Topic of Ford F-150, I am wondering if any 3rd party company will build a lift kit for the Hybrid / EV trucks as well as Lowering kit.

I think there will be these kits as well as new areas of performance modes in the sense of new computers, controllers, gear changes for the electric motors. 

It is an exciting time to think about all the ways you could Modify an F-150 Hybrid / EV truck.

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Just now, Robert Hall said:

Yes, they have evolved over time.

Horsepower doesn't matter in trucks, though.  It's all about the torque, hence the very torquey turbo diesels in the Super Dutys, etc.

Oy Vey...

We could talk about the  7.3 liter PUSHROD V8 and its torque it you want to...  

And you know what?  NOTHING changes about me waxing poetic about it...

Its got 475 ft/lbs at 4000 RPM.  That is almost 1960s Big Block numbers. Not too shabby for a gasoline engine.  

The engine, because its got thick cast iron walls it could be turboed or supercharged or it could be bored out to have even more cubic inches and either method will yield even more horsepower and torque figures.

Dont be mad at me for praising this engine. This engine is a great thing for V8 (truck) enthusiasts.  And I see many Ford car guys as well too...  Including myself.

Im dreaming right now about what I could put this behemoth of a V8 engine into?

Im thinking into a Crown Vic.  I could recreate what a mid 1960s Galaxie 500XL with a 390 could have felt like.  (I prefer the Corwn Vic over the Marauder but a Marauder would be just as cool) 

Ford Crown Victoria LX Sport specs, 0-60, performance data ...

 

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38 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

Oy Vey...

We could talk about the  7.3 liter PUSHROD V8 and its torque it you want to...  

And you know what?  NOTHING changes about me waxing poetic about it...

Its got 475 ft/lbs at 4000 RPM.  That is almost 1960s Big Block numbers. Not too shabby for a gasoline engine.  

The engine, because its got thick cast iron walls it could be turboed or supercharged or it could be bored out to have even more cubic inches and either method will yield even more horsepower and torque figures.

Dont be mad at me for praising this engine. This engine is a great thing for V8 (truck) enthusiasts.  And I see many Ford car guys as well too...  Including myself.

Im dreaming right now about what I could put this behemoth of a V8 engine into?

Im thinking into a Crown Vic.  I could recreate what a mid 1960s Galaxie 500XL with a 390 could have felt like.  (I prefer the Crown Vic over the Marauder but a Marauder would be just as cool) 

Ford Crown Victoria LX Sport specs, 0-60, performance data ...

 

That's a sweet CV in that pic. I love the idea of hot rodding a Crown Vic/Marauder/Grand Marquis/Town Car, but I'd want the Coyote 5.0 or maybe a Voodoo 5.2.  Since Ford moved away from pushrod V8s 25-30 years ago in cars, it seems retrograde to go back to one.  And since the 7.3 is not available in the F150, how did these posts get in this thread in the first place?  Holy thread derailment, Batman!

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