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11 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Imma gonna git me one of those 392L Challengers!! 😆

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Yeah, a bit anachronistic.  Too bad they don't have a modern 7.0 Hemi, 426 would have been better than the obscure 392 designation.  (since the original Challenger was available w/ the 426 in 70-71, and there was a 392 in the 50s, which had no historical correlation to the Challenger..

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• It's actually less anachronistic than hot-rodding a plasticy, out-of-production Crown Vic... since the 392 designation is current.

• [puts on RobertHall Zero Sarcasm hat]The '50s 392 and the current Challenger are from the same company and both are Hemi's; plenty of connection there.[/hat off]

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I think that's a Cutlass

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^^^  Everybody just stop.  I am may not be a mod around here. But put the keyboard down.  Just put the keyboard down. Now bring me a moderator.   There's got to be a better way to discuss the 2021 Ford F-150 without derailing the thread. Unless the plans have been changed.   Who here is a thread critic?   Let us all clap for the wonderful job we've done discussing cars. Other than the fact this is a 2021 Ford F-150 thread, we've all done a good job. Its beautiful.    :smilewide:

 

 

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TOLE YOU IT WAS A CUTLASS!  :smilewide:

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@oldshurst442 Wants a 2022 F-150 with the Supercharged Godzilla Motor in it. He does not care about MPG. :P 

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14 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

^^^  Everybody just stop.  I am may not be a mod around here. But put the keyboard down.  Just put the keyboard down. Now bring me a moderator.   There's got to be a better way to discuss the 2021 Ford F-150 without derailing the thread.   

Actually, you derailed the thread by going off on an engine that isn't available in the 2021 F-150.. pot calling kettle black.

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I want a new (or slightly used) truck so badly. I would definitely look at the F-150... but I’m against buying a first year generation.

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7 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

Actually, you derailed the thread by going off on an engine that isn't available in the 2021 F-150.. pot calling kettle black.

Yeah...kinda like Axel Foley? 

But this was addressed a LOOOONG time ago....when CCAP asked me about it...

23 hours ago, ccap41 said:

The TRX is a 1500 and not a 2500, right? 

I VERY highly doubt Ford would put the 7.3 in a F150 and it would be left for their SD lineup. It doesn't need the whole EPA MPG certification and they probably want to leave it that way. If they wanted big power, they'd likely take the supercharged 5.2 or supercharge the 5.0. 

 

23 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

True.

But I wanted to wax poetic about the 445 cubic inch pushrod V8 and the decision to make that engine available for sale to all. 

And the only way I could have done that, was to slightly skew the details in my favour. 

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 But YOU just want to argue with me for whatever reason...

I make SEVERAL jokes about the whole thing in a very Eddie Murphy kinda way and YOU still want to crucify me...  INCLUDING the ORIGINAL explanation Axel Foley GIF and then I had to go FULL OUT scene dialogue JUST to settle the uneasiness...

Like...what do you want from me???!!!

ALL because I wanted to wax poetic about a FORD ENGINE ANYWAY... 

Its NOT as if I talked about a KIA engine... For Christ's sake...  

Like...let it go!!!

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2 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

Yeah...kinda like Axel Foley? 

But this was addressed a LOOOONG time ago....when CCAP asked me about it...

 

 But YOU just want to argue with me for whatever reason...

I make SEVERAL jokes about the whole thing in a very Eddie Murphy kinda way and YOU still want to crucify me...  INCLUDING the ORIGINAL explanation Axel Foley GIF and then I had to go FULL OUT scene dialogue JUST to settle the uneasiness...

Like...what do you want from me???!!!

ALL because I wanted to wax poetic about a FORD ENGINE ANYWAY... 

Its NOT as if I talked about a KIA engine... For Christ's sake...  

Like...let it go!!!

Ya missed the perfect response to him.

 

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'Xcept I dont care for Adam Lambert.  HE puts me to sleep...   :P    (you  see what I did there?)

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4 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

'Xcept I dont care for Adam Lambert.  HE puts me to sleep...   :P    (you  see what I did there?)

 

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On 6/29/2020 at 6:06 PM, ocnblu said:

Underwhelming overall.  When you have to look several times to "spot the differences", you know you're in trouble.

the frame is the same, the engines are the same, but it's "all new"? rrrrrrrright....

Ford's latest new entries have terribly cheap interiors (Explorer, Escape).  Rubbermaid has better plastics.  these pictures do not give confidence that the same won't be true here either.

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On 7/2/2020 at 12:45 PM, riviera74 said:

More FORD news: The Lincoln Continental ends within the next year.  Another victim of the move to CUVs and SUVs.  Now Lincoln will be a CUV/SUV only brand.

https://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2020/07/lincoln-dropping-continental/

the continental should have been cancelled before it hit the showroom floor.  it missed the mark badly in so many ways.  that said, like the CT6, it will be a fantastic used car be when the crap depreciates out of it.  Find one with like 30, 40 thousand miles and like 40% of the sticker price.  then its a darn nice car.

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11 hours ago, regfootball said:

the continental should have been cancelled before it hit the showroom floor.  it missed the mark badly in so many ways.  that said, like the CT6, it will be a fantastic used car be when the crap depreciates out of it.  Find one with like 30, 40 thousand miles and like 40% of the sticker price.  then its a darn nice car.

What did the Continental miss on?  It was Lincoln's turning point. 

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4 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

What did the Continental miss on?  It was Lincoln's turning point. 

It was on a mediocre FWD/AWD/transverse engine platform...rental car hardware, nothing special.  Decent but bland styling also.   

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2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

What did the Continental miss on?  It was Lincoln's turning point. 

First off ROOM inside. I could not sit comfy in the front and have anyone sit behind me. Even if a short person was upfront, I could not sit comfy in back but had to slouch due to no head room with a bunker sucking window view out. The car had style, but everything they could to cut corners they did including not making it a roomy true to life RWD Big Car that big people could sit in. Failure from the get go by Ford. Hard plastics on what was supposed to be the relaunch of luxury. Anything but that. So if you wanted to compare it, was a Ford version of a Kia.

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52 minutes ago, David said:

First off ROOM inside. I could not sit comfy in the front and have anyone sit behind me. Even if a short person was upfront, I could not sit comfy in back but had to slouch due to no head room with a bunker sucking window view out. The car had style, but everything they could to cut corners they did including not making it a roomy true to life RWD Big Car that big people could sit in. Failure from the get go by Ford. Hard plastics on what was supposed to be the relaunch of luxury. Anything but that. So if you wanted to compare it, was a Ford version of a Kia.

You can't fit comfy in anything though so that's a moot point. 

You'd complain about the rear seat space in an S-Class or a Range Rover..but not a CT6. 🤔

If they were doing everything to cut corners, it wouldn't have been the first Lincoln to have its own switchgear and engines not used from a Ford.

"The expansive rear seat provides plenty of room for passengers to stretch out, and options such as our test car’s $4300 Rear-Seat package make for a sybaritic experience back there, with heating, cooling, power-adjustable lumbar support, and powered recliners for the occupants. " - You're just massive

"All of the cabin's touch points are high-quality; Lincoln has created its own switchgear for the Continental (and eventually the rest of the Lincoln line) with knurled-metal control knobs on the steering wheel and A/C system, and unique turn-signal stalks. Just about the only Ford-style switchgear I could find in the cabin were the window switches on the doors, and the overhead storage binnacle mounted just forward of the optional panoramic moonroof. "

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Personally, I am amazed that the Continental was not based on a stretch Mustang platform instead of the one it used.  We could use a few more RWD cars, not fewer.  But it is what it is.

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49 minutes ago, riviera74 said:

Personally, I am amazed that the Continental was not based on a stretch Mustang platform instead of the one it used.  We could use a few more RWD cars, not fewer.  But it is what it is.

Yeah, Ford probably saved a lot of money by using the Fusion platform, as they did with the MKZ.  

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2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

You can't fit comfy in anything though so that's a moot point. 

You'd complain about the rear seat space in an S-Class or a Range Rover..but not a CT6. 🤔

If they were doing everything to cut corners, it wouldn't have been the first Lincoln to have its own switchgear and engines not used from a Ford.

"The expansive rear seat provides plenty of room for passengers to stretch out, and options such as our test car’s $4300 Rear-Seat package make for a sybaritic experience back there, with heating, cooling, power-adjustable lumbar support, and powered recliners for the occupants. " - You're just massive

"All of the cabin's touch points are high-quality; Lincoln has created its own switchgear for the Continental (and eventually the rest of the Lincoln line) with knurled-metal control knobs on the steering wheel and A/C system, and unique turn-signal stalks. Just about the only Ford-style switchgear I could find in the cabin were the window switches on the doors, and the overhead storage binnacle mounted just forward of the optional panoramic moonroof. "

Wrong, I could fit Comfy in the old Continental of the 80's and 90's. The interior space is mid to compact at best. The old True Continental just like the Cadillac Brougham I could fit in just fine. The cars today are not full size of what they were and the legacy of a Continental was lost on this poorly executed car with cheap interior on top of a lack of space.

I have tried the CT6 and while I can as with any auto fold up and fit in, once the front seat is set for me, the back seat is still way too tight and not comfy. 

This is a Major Car Failure in the head room and comfort for back seat passengers has been lost. It is why I stick with full size SUVs. I can insure everyone has comfort, something todays cars cannot give.

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News Flash: Not every single car can be made for fit somebody 6' 6". That does not make them a failure. 

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35 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

News Flash: Not every single car can be made for fit somebody 6' 6". That does not make them a failure. 

True.  Not today, but in the olden days of tall, humpy cars, men could drive with a big hat on.  A 6’6” person probably could ride up front or in the back of a typical 1940 or 1950 car.   Different world...

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      Nissan was the first automaker to introduce a mass market electric vehicle with the Nissan LEAF in 2010, which has resulted in nearly 500,000 sales to date. Building on Nissan's strength as an EV pioneer, the Ariya takes the powerful performance and capabilities of zero-emission vehicles to the heart of the electric vehicle market.
      The car's all-electric drivetrain combines excellent power delivery, charging capabilities and range. Customers can choose from multiple configurations to meet their individual needs. These include two-wheel-drive and new "e-4ORCE" all-wheel drive versions, as well as two different battery sizes. The e-4ORCE all-wheel control system balances the powerful performance with a smooth, comfortable ride and all-weather capability. The system's twin electric motors provide balanced, assured handling with sports car-level power.
      Advanced design and technology for stress-free driving
      Ariya is also the most advanced embodiment of Nissan Intelligent Mobility in a car to date.
      Drivers will feel more confident and less stressed thanks to the available, next-generation ProPILOT Assist 2.0 advanced driver assistance system that uses driver attention monitoring to enable hands-off single-lane highway operation. Ariya will also offer e-Pedal, which allows the driver to start, accelerate and decelerate using only the accelerator pedal.
      Standard across the Ariya lineup is Nissan Safety Shield® 360, a suite of six advanced active safety and driver-assist technologies. This includes Automatic Emergency Braking with Pedestrian Detection, Rear Automatic Braking, Lane Departure Warning, Blind Spot Warning, Rear Cross Traffic Alert and High Beam Assist. Ariya will also feature Nissan's Intelligent Around View Monitor, Intelligent Forward Collision Warning and other technologies aimed at making the drive easier and more enjoyable.
      A human-machine interface lets customers use natural speech to adjust car settings. Over-the-air firmware updates keep the Ariya feeling fresh and exciting. The Ariya also includes Amazon's Alexa to help customers simplify and organize their lives.
      Ariya will also feature wireless Apple CarPlay® and Android Auto™ standard to help drivers seamlessly integrate their smartphone into their vehicle experience.
      Spacious, flat-floor cabin
      The Ariya's striking looks represent Nissan's new design language, Timeless Japanese Futurism. It is characterized by a distinctive Japanese approach, conveyed in a simple yet powerfully modern way.
      Nissan's designers took advantage of the car's new EV platform, which allows for a flat floor, and its compact climate control components to give the Ariya a very spacious cabin. The lounge-like interior, featuring thin profile Zero Gravity seats, provides a welcoming and comfortable environment for driver and passengers alike.
      "Nissan was a pioneer in the world of mass-market electric vehicles a decade ago with LEAF, setting the standard for affordable, mass-market electric vehicles. We expect nothing less for the new Nissan Ariya," said Gupta. "While the driving exhilaration of its acceleration and torque levels is undeniable, the Ariya offers balanced, customer-centric technology that is perfect for everyday use."
      Nissan Ariya Key Specifications
      Passenger configuration
      2-row, 5-passenger
      Drive configuration
      Front-wheel drive or e-4ORCE all-wheel drive
      Platform
      Newly developed Alliance CMF-EV
      Powertrain
      Single (FWD) / dual (e-4ORCE AWD) electric motor, Externally Excited Synchronous Motor (EESM)
      Battery capacity
      63 kWh / 87 kWh usable (total 65 kWh / 90 kWh)
      Thermal management
      Active battery management system
      Estimated range
      Up to approximately 300 miles (preliminary Nissan estimate)
      Level 2 charging
      Up to 7.2 kW
      DC charging type
      CCS standard up to 130 kW
      Output
      160 kW – 290 kW
      Torque
      221 lb-ft – 443 lb-ft
      Wheelbase
      109.3 in.
      Overall length
      182.9 in.
      Overall width
      74.8 in.
      Overall height
      65.4 in. – 65.7 (depending on roof rack)
      Cargo volume
      16.5 cu ft (FWD)
      14.6 (e-4ORCE)
      Wheel size
      19-inch or 20-inch
      Tire size
      235/55R19 or 255/45R20
      Available interior features
      Lounge-like space created by flat, open floor and slim-profile Zero Gravity seats; large, minimalist instrument panel with integrated capacitive haptic switches; innovative center storage box with fold-out tray, adjustable center console
      Available Advanced Driver Assist (ADAS) Technology
      ProPILOT Assist 2.0 featuring hands-off highway operation with Driver Monitoring System
      Available safety technology
      Nissan Safety Shield® 360 with Automatic Emergency Braking with Pedestrian Detection, Blind Spot Warning, Rear Cross Traffic Alert, Lane Departure Warning, High Beam Assist and Rear Automatic Braking
      Model configurations
      Ariya standard and long range (FWD)
      Ariya standard range e-4ORCE and long range e-4ORCE (AWD)
      * NOTE: All specifications are as of July 2020 and are subject to homologation. Model names, features and specifications may vary by market. Subject to final validation.

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