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Ford News: 2021 Bronco Sport Completes the Family

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(Author's Note: For those wondering where the 2021 Bronco story is, that will be up sometime tomorrow morning. There is a lot to digest, and need some more time to figure out how to structure that. Stay tuned. -WM).

If the standard Bronco is a bit out of your reach, then Ford has another option in the form of the 2021 Bronco Sport. Yes, it is based on the Escape platform, but Ford is very adamant this us a very different animal.

Lets begin with the dimensions. The Bronco Sport measures 172.7 inches in length and rides on 105.1 inch wheelbase - 7.8 and 1.6 inches shorter than the Escape. But the Sport is about an inch wider and is taller in terms of ground clearance (7.8 to 8.8 inches depending on the trim). Design-wise, the Sport looks very rugged with a boxy shape. chunky c-pillar, and a deep cut in the doors. The roof is raised slightly higher towards the back, reminding us of the first and second-generation Land Rover Discovery. This allows for better headroom and more cargo space.

The only items that the Bronco Sport and Escape share inside are the switchgear. Everything else is unique to Bronco Sport such as the steering wheel featuring a bucking Bronco, MOLLE webbing on the back of the front seats to allow owners to attach various items, and optional rubberized floor. An eight-inch touchscreen with SYNC 3 comes standard. 

Power will come from two engines. A turbo 1.5L three-cylinder providing 181 horsepower and 190 pound-feet of torque come standard on the base, Big Bend, and Outer Banks. The Badlands and 2021 model year only First Edition get the 2.0L turbo-four with 245 hp and 275 lb-ft. All with come with an eight-speed automatic and all-wheel drive. Like the larger Bronco, the Sport gets a range of drive modes called GOAT (Goes Over Any Type of Terrain). Controlled via a knob in the center console, a driver can select from five different modes - Normal, Eco, Sport, Slippery, and Sand. Badlands and First Edition add Mud/Ruts and Rocks.

Surprisingly, Ford has announced pricing for the Bronco Sport. The base model begins at $28,155 including a $1,495 destination charge. The rest are as followed,

  • Big Bend: $29,655
  • Outer Banks: $33,655
  • Badlands: $34,155
  • First Edition: $39,995

The first Bronco Sports are expected to arrive in dealers this fall, but you can put in a reservation right now with a $100 deposit. Though, we would wait a bit as Ford's servers are having some issues dealing with the load of everyone trying to put a reservation for the standard Bronco.

Source: Ford
Press Release is on Page 2


ALL-NEW FORD BRONCO SPORT RUGGED SMALL SUV EQUIPPED FOR TRAILS WITH STANDARD 4X4 AND BUILT WILD CAPABILITY AND CONFIDENCE

  • The Bronco of small SUVs: All-new Ford Bronco Sport expands the rugged Bronco family of 4x4-only vehicles, giving more outdoor adventurers Bronco off-road capability, durability and technology
  • Built Wild™: With standard 4x4 across the lineup, Bronco Sport lives up to its G.O.A.T. (goes over any type of terrain) heritage with Built Wild Extreme Durability Testing, Capability and Innovative Design to deliver unsurpassed ground clearance, made-for-the-trails approach and departure angles, water fording, obstacle protection and segment-first trail technologies
  • Thrilling: Bronco Sport SUV enables exciting, high-speed off-road driving thanks to its Bronco-specific variant architecture, Bronco design DNA, available 2.0-liter EcoBoost® engine targeting segment-best horsepower and torque, and advanced 4x4 system with class-exclusive twin-clutch rear-drive unit with a differential lock feature
  • Ready for fun: Class-exclusive features designed for life on the trails include safari-style roof enabling class-leading headroom and a cargo area high enough to hold two 27.5-inch-wheel mountain bikes; more than 100 factory-backed and aftermarket accessories are available to transport gear such as kayaks, surfboards, skis and camping equipment
  • Reservations: Open now for $100 at ford.com

DEARBORN, Mich., July 13, 2020 – The all-new Ford Bronco Sport off-road vehicle – the Bronco of small SUVs – signals for adventure-seekers a welcome return to roads and trails less traveled.

With unmistakable Bronco styling and unrelenting Bronco capability, the smaller sibling of Bronco two-door and first-ever four-door SUVs joins the family with its own idea of fun. As with all Broncos, 4x4 is standard, and this rugged SUV is engineered to handle whatever weekend adventure its owner has in mind.

“Bronco Sport has the toughness and smarts to help turn off-road novices into 4x4 pros,” said Hau Thai-Tang, Ford chief product development and purchasing officer. “Bronco Sport embraces the needs of outdoor enthusiasts – every inch of it was designed and engineered with weekend adventurers in mind.”

Bronco Sport is smartly designed to transport two mountain bikes standing up in its cargo area – and two cyclists up front. Four available accessory bundles – in addition to more than 100 factory-backed standalone accessories – let owners easily make the vehicle their own by outfitting it to transport kayaks, skis, camping equipment or whatever gear propels their adventure.

Five trim levels are available, including the base model, Big Bend™, Outer Banks™, Badlands™ and First Edition™.

Reservations for Bronco Sport open today at ford.com; vehicles can be reserved for $100.

Vehicles arrive in dealerships late this year.

Built Wild 4x4 confidence

Like the larger Bronco, the all-new Bronco Sport delivers the 4x4 off-road capability that made the original Bronco a legend. With off-road performance at its core, Bronco Sport provides solid footing on sand, snow, mud, rocks and more.

For maximum off-road capability and long-term durability, Bronco Sport was tested in extreme conditions in places such as the Johnson Valley desert in California, as part of Built Wild Extreme Durability Testing. Badlands and First Edition models pack an advanced 4x4 system with a class-exclusive twin-clutch rear-drive unit with a differential lock feature to allow greater off-road performance – similar to a traditional mechanical locking differential. The system can divert virtually all rear axle torque to either wheel, setting it apart from any other vehicle in the non-premium subcompact utility segment.

Bronco Sport’s suspension can take on rugged terrain and is complemented by Ford’s trail technologies. The small SUV’s Terrain Management System™ with up to seven available G.O.A.T. Modes™ helps drivers “go over any type of terrain” and in various conditions. Standard modes include Normal, Eco, Sport, Slippery and Sand; Mud/Ruts and Rock Crawl modes are available on Badlands and First Edition.

All models feature an independent front and rear suspension engineered and performance-tested in demanding environments across North America. The suspension is optimized to help drivers confidently maintain vehicle composure while aggressively taking on rugged terrain.

On Badlands and First Edition series, the system includes uniquely tuned front struts with hydraulic rebound stops designed to provide a quieter, less jarring off-road experience. In addition, 46-millimeter-diameter monotube rear shocks are among the largest in the class, helping provide improved response and more comfort off-road, while softer springs and antiroll bars offer greater articulation over obstacles.

Class-exclusive Trail Control™ technology furthers the vehicle’s off-road prowess. The available feature enables a cruise control-like setting up to 20 mph forward and 6 mph in reverse for vehicle-controlled throttle and braking, letting the driver stay focused on navigating the trail.

For adventurers taking on rough and rocky terrain, the small SUV’s design includes made-for-the-trails departure, approach and breakover angles. An available class-exclusive front off-road camera with lens washer serves as a spotter and helps provide better visibility of the trail ahead, displaying the video on the center stack-mounted touch screen.

In Rock Crawl mode, the electronic power steering assist system is uniquely calibrated to provide more precise control and help reduce steering wheel disturbance during low-speed maneuvers over rocky terrain.

Off-road capability is further reinforced by four steel bash plates, plus available frame-mounted front tow hooks that can individually withstand static loads up to 100 percent of the gross vehicle weight. Badlands and First Edition can wade through up to 23.6 inches of water.

Thrilling performance borne of Bronco DNA

Staying true to the DNA of the first-generation Bronco, the all-new Bronco Sport SUV pays it forward with modern, heritage-inspired style, agile off-road architecture and optimized suspension for better control in all environments.

The Badlands and First Edition series are powered by a 2.0-liter EcoBoost® engine that produces a targeted best-in-class 245 horsepower and 275 lb.-ft. of torque for high-speed off-road performance*. Base, Big Bend and Outer Banks series feature the proven 1.5-liter EcoBoost engine with a targeted 181 horsepower and 190 lb.-ft. of torque*.

Both engines are paired with an 8-speed automatic transmission, while Bronco Sport Badlands and First Edition add SelectShift® with steering wheel-mounted paddle shifters to help drivers maximize control both on- and off-road. A cooling system with additional transmission and rear-drive coolers keeps 2.0-liter models running strong over tough terrain.

The Bronco Sport SUV’s design inspiration is directly linked to the all-new Bronco halo model. Its rugged design attributes include signature encapsulated cartridge grille, round headlamps, clean, flat bodysides, and timeless proportions that enable the short front and rear overhangs required for off-road maneuvers. Tough unpainted finishes smartly cover exterior contact points, so the vehicle is ready for almost anything the rough and tumble outdoors can throw at it.

The Badlands series comes standard with 28.5-inch all-terrain tires. First Edition comes standard with 29-inch all-terrain off-road tires with more aggressive, deeper treads that stretch on to the sidewalls for improved off-road traction.

Ready for fun to venture into the wild

Human-centered design led to special Bronco Sport features such as class-exclusive liftgate LED floodlamps – because out in the wild, there are no streetlamps – MOLLE straps to carry extra gear, zippered seatback pockets for additional stowage, and even a built-in bottle opener in the cargo area.

Its upright design and safari-style roof contribute to Bronco Sport’s adventurous silhouette, which not only features a long flat roof rail for maximum carrying length, it also treats occupants to best-in-class first- and second-row headroom. The cargo area has enough height to accommodate two standing 27.5-inch-wheel mountain bikes with the available Yakima dealer-installed interior bike rack accessory.

Bronco Sport will launch with more than 100 factory-backed and aftermarket accessories for maximum personalization, enabling dealers to provide outfitting-on-demand for each owner’s individual adventure needs. Bronco Sport buyers can also opt for any of four lifestyle accessory bundles themed Bike, Snow, Water and Camping.

A flip-glass rear window, low-load floor cargo area, overlanding-ready roof rack with capacity to make roof-top tent camping easy, and front fender peaks that allow the driver to see the corners of the vehicle easily from behind the wheel reveal this small SUV is purpose-built for adventure from front to back, top to bottom.

Bronco Sport can quickly help with basecamp setup thanks to an innovative slide-out working table, part of the available five-way configurable Cargo Management System, plus a class-exclusive 400-watt inverter and liftgate floodlamps that illuminate up to 129 square feet for when the adventure ends after sundown.

To make post-adventure cleanups painless, the Badlands and First Edition series offer washable rubber flooring throughout the cabin and cargo area, easy-to-clean cloth seating surfaces and silicone-sealed control switches. For stowage of wet, icy or muddy gear, an available storage bin is located below the second-row passenger-side seat.

Smart in addition to being rugged, the vehicle features a SYNC® 3 system with an 8-inch touch screen and compatibility with Apple CarPlay™ and Android Auto™. Other available technology features include Ford+Alexa and SiriusXM™ satellite radio.

The Ford Co-Pilot360™ suite of advanced driver-assist technologies is standard across the lineup, including Pre-Collision Assist with Automatic Emergency Braking featuring Pedestrian Detection, Forward Collision Warning and Dynamic Brake Support, Blind Spot Information System with Cross-Traffic Alert, Lane-Keeping System, Auto High Beam Headlamps and a rearview camera. Available Ford Co-Pilot360 Assist+ technology includes Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop-and-Go and Lane-Centering, Evasive Steering Assist and voice-activated touch screen navigation. Available Ford Co-Pilot360 Assist 2.0 technology adds Intelligent Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop-and-Go, Lane-Centering and Speed Sign Recognition.


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I have to say- I do like this. Perfect for camping and outdoor things we do (like Scouts)

Will have to see it in person, but I like this WAY better than the escape....

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Puts everything in its class on the trailer.  Well done, Ford!

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This actually seems like a pretty sweet package. It also seems pretty pricey... 30k and you're still rocking a 1.5T. 

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4 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

This actually seems like a pretty sweet package. It also seems pretty pricey... 30k and you're still rocking a 1.5T. 

Which is much the same with GM and other automakers today.  $30k is  econobox transverse 4cyl territory, unfortunately. 

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37 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

Which is no different than GM or other automakers today.  $30k is still econobox transverse 4cyl territory, unfortunately. 

Yeah, I guess I thought you could get the 2.0T for 30k in the Escape but I just tried to build one. The cheapest you can get the 2.0T is like 33k. There's a hybrid for under 30k but that's completely different. 

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Jeep Cherokee comes with V6 for 30k

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Just now, ykX said:

Jeep Cherokee comes with V6 for 30k

And Jeep Compass w/ 4cyl.

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Interior is nice, Exterior is solid, not a fan of the tail lights or front end, but over all it should sell very well for Ford. See how fast they can get them on the lots and if people are willing to pay for turbo 4 bangers at a premium price.

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I think it is solid and is different than the Escape, CX3, CX5, etc car-like  crossovers.  And the Compass and Cherokee aren’t anything great so this should stack up well against them even though it is a lot smaller than a Cherokee.  If it doesn’t sell they’ll tack on discounts to make sure it does.  In the low $30s it will do well, over $40k you get too much competition from luxury brands.

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1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

I think it is solid and is different than the Escape, CX3, CX5, etc car-like  crossovers.  And the Compass and Cherokee aren’t anything great so this should stack up well against them even though it is a lot smaller than a Cherokee.  If it doesn’t sell they’ll tack on discounts to make sure it does.  In the low $30s it will do well, over $40k you get too much competition from luxury brands.

How many luxury CUVs can do what this Bronco can do on rough terrain?

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Just now, riviera74 said:

How many luxury CUVs can do what this Bronco can do on rough terrain?

None in the low 40's. I don't doubt there are some surprisingly capable X3's and GLC's with fancy traction controls but that's probably where those end. 

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6 hours ago, David said:

Interior is nice, Exterior is solid, not a fan of the tail lights or front end, but over all it should sell very well for Ford. See how fast they can get them on the lots and if people are willing to pay for turbo 4 bangers at a premium price.

The 1.5EB is a three cylinder, same engine as the Escape with a little more torque.

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59 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

The 1.5EB is a three cylinder, same engine as the Escape with a little more torque.

I do not like this trend of turbo three-cylinder engines.  Turbo fours are an issue themselves, but a 3cyl?  No thank you.

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3 hours ago, riviera74 said:

How many luxury CUVs can do what this Bronco can do on rough terrain?

How much off roaring can Escape do also?    Even loaded up the Bronco Sport seems to be about $39k so I think they are in a good spot where they are.  

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Ford has 0% financing for 48 moths or up to 84 month financing deals on the Bronco Sport already announced.  No doubt cash back will be added next year on top of it.  You knew there would be deals, and that will keep this vehicle appealing from a monthly payment perspective and probably make it successful in the market.

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8 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

Ford has 0% financing for 48 moths or up to 84 month financing deals on the Bronco Sport already announced.  No doubt cash back will be added next year on top of it.  You knew there would be deals, and that will keep this vehicle appealing from a monthly payment perspective and probably make it successful in the market.

That is probably the only thing that is propping up truck sales now: all those 0% finance deals.

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1 hour ago, riviera74 said:

That is probably the only thing that is propping up truck sales now: all those 0% finance deals.

Probably and I don’t think we have seen the bottom.  The $600 a week unemployment bonus will run out soon,  a lot of businesses might get by on 3 bad months, but coronavirus is only getting worse and this could go on another year, American Airlines announced 25,000 layoffs are coming, I think in the fall the economy is going to be even weaker than it is now.  2020-2021 could very easily be worse than 2008-2009.

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On 7/14/2020 at 7:03 PM, riviera74 said:

I do not like this trend of turbo three-cylinder engines.  Turbo fours are an issue themselves, but a 3cyl?  No thank you.

reviews i've read on the Escape diss the 3 cylinder motor..... 

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On 7/23/2020 at 11:22 PM, regfootball said:

reviews i've read on the Escape diss the 3 cylinder motor..... 

Then those people should get the 4-cylinder.  Some people won’t care about the engine, look how many 150ish hp cars and crossovers are sold now.  Chevy dropped the 2.0 in the Equinox because the take rate was so low and that is a size bigger vehicle than Bronco Sport.

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I suspect not IF but WHEN Ford builds this in a Hybrid format, like the Toyota Rav4 Hybrid, it will take off with people not caring about a 3cylinder turbo motor, but for now, I cannot see any reason to get this with anything less than a 4 banger.

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15 hours ago, smk4565 said:

Then those people should get the 4-cylinder.  Some people won’t care about the engine, look how many 150ish hp cars and crossovers are sold now.  Chevy dropped the 2.0 in the Equinox because the take rate was so low and that is a size bigger vehicle than Bronco Sport.

Equinox is Escape-sized and the Bronco Sport is basically the same as the Escape. 

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Bronco Sport is 1 inch shorter than the 2021 Chevy Trailblazer.  Trailblazer’s optional engine is a 1.3 liter 3-cylinder.  Bronco sport is same size as the Compass which has 180 hp and 175 lb-ft.  I think Bronco Sport is fine on power.

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I was surprised how large the Escape is, it looks so tiny.   It's within 3 inches of the Equinox in length.

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11 hours ago, Robert Hall said:

I was surprised how large the Escape is, it looks so tiny.   It's within 3 inches of the Equinox in length.

I was under the same impression.  I think the rounder lines and lower roof cause it.  I actually like the sound of the 1.5EB 3, I think it growls nicely, based on YouTube POV videos.  The Trailblazer's big-block 3 has earned an amused comment from Motor Trend as well, on its sound at least.  They're also saying the Chevy/Buick 1.3 is plenty peppy around town, but pokey on the highway.  GM's CVT gets low marks in the Trailblazer (duh! how could it not?)

Ford and GM are shoving these 3 cylinder engines at us as if we're China, and that is a turn-off.  At least Jeep's 1.3t is a mighty four-pot.

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1 hour ago, ocnblu said:

I was under the same impression.  I think the rounder lines and lower roof cause it.  I actually like the sound of the 1.5EB 3, I think it growls nicely, based on YouTube POV videos.  The Trailblazer's big-block 3 has earned an amused comment from Motor Trend as well, on its sound at least.  They're also saying the Chevy/Buick 1.3 is plenty peppy around town, but pokey on the highway.  GM's CVT gets low marks in the Trailblazer (duh! how could it not?)

Ford and GM are shoving these 3 cylinder engines at us as if we're China, and that is a turn-off.  At least Jeep's 1.3t is a mighty four-pot.

Maybe Chevy will do a Trailblazer SS with a mighty 1.8..

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On 7/14/2020 at 5:18 AM, ocnblu said:

Puts everything in its class on the trailer.  Well done, Ford!

Agree completely. 

1 hour ago, Robert Hall said:

Maybe Chevy will do a Trailblazer SS with a mighty 1.8..

Spark based. Sonic based Tahoe SS coming soon. 

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I don't have any issue with a 3-pot in these small vehicles. As long as they have the numbers to back them up,which they do, there's no issue there. 

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11 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

Agree completely. 

Spark based. Sonic based Tahoe SS coming soon. 

I'm still waiting for the Corvette mid-engined CUV....to compete w/ the Cayenne.  That will be rad.

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But in all seriousness, if the regular Bronco is successful, will GM get something in that market?  Problem is, it doesn't fit their format of mediocre FWD transverse engine appliances...

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Excluding Ford, GM likely sells a higher volume of RWD / 4WD / AWD vehicles than any other company in the USDM.

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43 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Excluding Ford, GM likely sells a higher volume of RWD / 4WD / AWD vehicles than any other company in the USDM.

Probably...but those are full size BOF.  All their smaller CUVs are forgettable transverse engine generics.  

They don't have anything like the Wrangler or Bronco.  They in theory could build something off the Colorado platform, but I doubt if they would do that..

Likewise, they don't have a RWD/AWD unibody CUV platform to do a performance SUV like the Trackhawk, X5 M or Cayenne. 

A V-series version of the XT4/5/6 wouldn't work since those are transverse engine generics.

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Wrangler is also BOF.  And :

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I know- you were talking about something nearly identical to a Wrangler with a different badge. Sigh.

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5 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Wrangler is also BOF.  And :

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A Blazer SUV based off the Colorado would be nice---2dr or 4dr.

But we know Generic Motors won't do it..they want to make AWD/FWD generics--high volume appliances---forgettable chud.   

5 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Wrangler is also BOF.   

Never said it wasn't.  

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You brought it up ["full-size BOF"] - If BOF was insignificant, why mention it?

GM has been moving away from FWD for years & years - RWD & AWD what they want to make.
Remember you remarking how they were dumping all those FWD cars??

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14 hours ago, balthazar said:

You brought it up ["full-size BOF"] - If BOF was insignificant, why mention it?

GM has been moving away from FWD for years & years - RWD & AWD what they want to make. 

Nope...GM's CUV line is all FWD/AWD....they only have a few RWD cars left and the full size RWD/AWD SUVs.

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3 hours ago, Robert Hall said:

Nope...GM's CUV line is all FWD/AWD....they only have a few RWD cars left and the full size RWD/AWD SUVs.

RWD GM Cars: The Cadillac CTs and the Camaro and Corvette, and that's it.  Too bad GM could (semi) corner the market in affordable RWD sedans since that segment is occupied by FCA and virtually no one else.

I do agree that, trucks aside, GM is a little too all in on FWD appliances, whether they are sedans or CUVs.  Sadly, Ford is following suit for the same reason: profits above all else.

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Once a vehicle is AWD, it's no longer FWD. Amiright? I mean, I was schooled that 'fact' WRT audi.

And folk forget when Cadillac was 95% FWD. Now the sedans are RWD (3 if you count the just-discontinued CT6), the big SUV is RWD/AWD, and most of the 3 CUVs come AWD.

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6 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Once a vehicle is AWD, it's no longer FWD. Amiright? I mean, I was schooled that 'fact' WRT audi.
 

Meh...GM's AWD CUVs are based on FWD/transverse engine platforms. Generic appliances.    

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^ Yeah- but nobody cares about that in AWD.

1 hour ago, Robert Hall said:

GM's AWD CUVs are based on FWD/transverse engine platforms.

Except of course for all those I listed above in that brand's example.
s'OK; carry on with your narrative....

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12 minutes ago, balthazar said:

^ Yeah- but nobody cares about that in AWD.

Except of course for all those I listed above in that brand's example.
 

???  All of GMs CUVs are AWD/transverse engine, some w/ FWD base models.      No 'except'.  Their SUVs, on the other hand are proper SUVs w/ RWD/AWD north-south engines(Tahoe/Suburban/Yukon/Escalade).   I didn't say anything about AWD cars.    

I doubt if GM will develop a proper midsize RWD/AWD SUV--though Cadillac could use one to compete with the Europeans...instead, they will stick with dull transverse engine generics.  (A V8 V-series model to compete w/ the X5 M, GLE AMG, Cayenne, etc would have been great). 

 But with the EV push coming, it's too late I'm afraid. 

 

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If all 4 wheels are driving, how can it be 'FWD'?
Likewise, if RWs are driving, is it still 'AWD'?

"Reality is complexicated".

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On 7/27/2020 at 5:06 PM, smk4565 said:

Then those people should get the 4-cylinder.  Some people won’t care about the engine, look how many 150ish hp cars and crossovers are sold now.  Chevy dropped the 2.0 in the Equinox because the take rate was so low and that is a size bigger vehicle than Bronco Sport.

it always is because they package the bigger motor in a trim and package level that adds several thousand to the price of the vehicle.

compare that 1.5 and 2.0 motor.....4 cylinders, 16 valves, a crankshaft, fuel system... there's not much actual physical difference inbetween the two motors that warrants the huge price jump, just a slight size increase.  By itself if you priced the upgraded motor standalone at 995 bucks (which is about right) and weren't forced to underproduce it because of CAFE I guarantee that take rate would be 50% at least.

On 7/28/2020 at 8:38 AM, ccap41 said:

Equinox is Escape-sized and the Bronco Sport is basically the same as the Escape. 

Bronco Sport looks like a reincarnation of the original Escape......

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4 hours ago, regfootball said:

Bronco Sport looks like a reincarnation of the original Escape.....

That is a good percentage of what makes it cool.

I read that the 2.0t was coming back in the Equinox for 2022, the year of the MCE that was supposed to debut as an early 2021, but didn't.

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12 hours ago, regfootball said:

it always is because they package the bigger motor in a trim and package level that adds several thousand to the price of the vehicle.

compare that 1.5 and 2.0 motor.....4 cylinders, 16 valves, a crankshaft, fuel system... there's not much actual physical difference inbetween the two motors that warrants the huge price jump, just a slight size increase.  By itself if you priced the upgraded motor standalone at 995 bucks (which is about right) and weren't forced to underproduce it because of CAFE I guarantee that take rate would be 50% at least.

Bronco Sport looks like a reincarnation of the original Escape......

It seems like Bronco and Bronco Sport let you get the bigger England off road stuff without having to go into a premium luxury trim which is a good idea.

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9 hours ago, ocnblu said:

That is a good percentage of what makes it cool.

I read that the 2.0t was coming back in the Equinox for 2022, the year of the MCE that was supposed to debut as an early 2021, but didn't.

yeah, it will be the new 2.0, the new ubiquitous 2.0 that has less power than the previous 2.0...you know, the GM way.  Put it in an XT5 Cadillac and the CT6 Cadillac (which made it over a second slower than the old 2.0)  but also the Equinox eventually......

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3 hours ago, regfootball said:

less power than the previous 2.0

Another case of Barra downgrading popular vehicles in favor of unpopular EV.  Off with her head!

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^ EVs did peak in 2018 at 2% of the market.  It's completely legit to call them 'unpopular' at this time.

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4 minutes ago, balthazar said:

^ EVs did peak in 2018 at 2% of the market.  It's completely legit to call them 'unpopular' at this time.

Now now, we mustn't let FACTS stand in the way!  LOL

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"EVs!  They're tremendously, hugely popular!  Like banana lollipops!"

I mean; c'mon. There's salesmanship, and there's reality.

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Well the market isn't exactly what it was in 2019.  This year is an anomaly.  

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2 hours ago, balthazar said:

^ EVs did peak in 2018 at 2% of the market.  It's completely legit to call them 'unpopular' at this time.

Yes, EVs are not popular at all these days.  A Popular EV would actually be cheaper than a current -gen Equinox at the same size segment.  The cheapest EV is about 25K and it needs to be more like 15K in order to juice up sales.

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On 7/30/2020 at 9:27 PM, balthazar said:

If all 4 wheels are driving, how can it be 'FWD'?
Likewise, if RWs are driving, is it still 'AWD'?

"Reality is complexicated".

Quit trying to live in reality in a world that refuses to. 

15 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Another case of Barra downgrading popular vehicles in favor of unpopular EV.  Off with her head!

I kind of actually agree. I like Barra, but they need Gas and electric to compete. 

13 hours ago, balthazar said:

"EVs!  They're tremendously, hugely popular!  Like batshit lollipops!"

I mean; c'mon. There's salesmanship, and there's reality.

Fixed that for ya Balthy...

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12 hours ago, riviera74 said:

Yes, EVs are not popular at all these days.  A Popular EV would actually be cheaper than a current -gen Equinox at the same size segment.  The cheapest EV is about 25K and it needs to be more like 15K in order to juice up sales.

Are there still any vehicles in the 15k range on the market?  Mitsubishi Mirage?    $25k seems like a realistic starting point in today's market...

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19 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

Are there still any vehicles in the 15k range on the market?  Mitsubishi Mirage?    $25k seems like a realistic starting point in today's market...

Fit, Yaris, Spark, Accent, Rio all start in the 15-16k+ range.

Hyundai Venue starts at $17,350 and Kia Forte starts at $17,890 so they're fairly close. 

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2 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Fit, Yaris, Spark, Accent, Rio all start in the 15-16k+ range.

Hyundai Venue starts at $17,350 and Kia Forte starts at $17,890 so they're fairly close. 

Fit and Yaris are dead, what is left on the lots is all there is.

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5 minutes ago, David said:

Fit and Yaris are dead, what is left on the lots is all there is.

I was just looking at their websites and they were still there.. 

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55 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

I was just looking at their websites and they were still there.. 

I posted about this a while back in the random thread about the companies killing off these products for NA.

Multiple places talk about the announcements:

https://www.thedrive.com/news/34936/the-honda-fit-and-civic-coupe-are-dead

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/honda-fit-civic-coupe-dead

Details on the ALL NEW Honda Fit that WILL NOT becoming to America. Have to say that while tech packed, it is even Uglier than before.

https://global.honda/newsroom/news/2020/4200213eng-fit.html

Toyota Yaris also is covered by various sites.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-toyota-yaris-discontinued/

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a32958759/toyota-confirms-yaris-sedan-hatchback-are-dead-to-us/

https://www.thetorquereport.com/toyota/toyota-yaris-is-reportedly-dead-in-the-us/

On alternative news, Guess they cannot get a new full size truck out, so Toyota has done special pricing and some special edition 2021 models for the rest of this year till the all new 2022 comes out maybe?

https://pressroom.toyota.com/tundra-rolls-out-pricing-and-special-editions-for-2021-model-year/

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1 hour ago, David said:

Fit and Yaris are dead, what is left on the lots is all there is.

Low profit cars few loved, they won't be missed. 

14 minutes ago, David said:

I posted about this a while back in the random thread about the companies killing off these products for NA.

Multiple places talk about the announcements:

https://www.thedrive.com/news/34936/the-honda-fit-and-civic-coupe-are-dead

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/honda-fit-civic-coupe-dead

Details on the ALL NEW Honda Fit that WILL NOT becoming to America. Have to say that while tech packed, it is even Uglier than before.

https://global.honda/newsroom/news/2020/4200213eng-fit.html

Toyota Yaris also is covered by various sites.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-toyota-yaris-discontinued/

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a32958759/toyota-confirms-yaris-sedan-hatchback-are-dead-to-us/

https://www.thetorquereport.com/toyota/toyota-yaris-is-reportedly-dead-in-the-us/

On alternative news, Guess they cannot get a new full size truck out, so Toyota has done special pricing and some special edition 2021 models for the rest of this year till the all new 2022 comes out maybe?

https://pressroom.toyota.com/tundra-rolls-out-pricing-and-special-editions-for-2021-model-year/

Tacoma is on an ancient platform, as is Tundra, as is Camry. 

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And I checked out that new Honda Fit. Honda is getting closer and closer to building mindless transportation pods. 

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13 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

And I checked out that new Honda Fit. Honda is getting closer and closer to building mindless transportation pods. 

The production version Honda E is kinda neat looking for a tiny EV...

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7 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

The production version Honda E is kinda neat looking for a tiny EV...

I will have to check it out. Civic R is probably the only Honda I could see owning, maybe an SI. Rest of the lineup is kind of Blah to me. 

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1 minute ago, A Horse With No Name said:

I will have to check it out. Civic R is probably the only Honda I could see owning, maybe an SI. Rest of the lineup is kind of Blah to me. 

Sounds like it's not coming here, since it's not a CUV.

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47 minutes ago, David said:

I posted about this a while back in the random thread about the companies killing off these products for NA.

Multiple places talk about the announcements:

https://www.thedrive.com/news/34936/the-honda-fit-and-civic-coupe-are-dead

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/honda-fit-civic-coupe-dead

Details on the ALL NEW Honda Fit that WILL NOT becoming to America. Have to say that while tech packed, it is even Uglier than before.

https://global.honda/newsroom/news/2020/4200213eng-fit.html

Toyota Yaris also is covered by various sites.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-toyota-yaris-discontinued/

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a32958759/toyota-confirms-yaris-sedan-hatchback-are-dead-to-us/

https://www.thetorquereport.com/toyota/toyota-yaris-is-reportedly-dead-in-the-us/

On alternative news, Guess they cannot get a new full size truck out, so Toyota has done special pricing and some special edition 2021 models for the rest of this year till the all new 2022 comes out maybe?

https://pressroom.toyota.com/tundra-rolls-out-pricing-and-special-editions-for-2021-model-year/

Oh I certainly wasn't doubting you. I just didn't realize it myself. 

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3 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

I will have to check it out. Civic R is probably the only Honda I could see owning, maybe an SI. Rest of the lineup is kind of Blah to me. 

Official Honda Anouncement.

https://global.honda/newsroom/news/2019/4190227eng.html

Seems in Australia they are already crashing the Honda e.

https://insideevs.com/news/436693/honda-e-crashes-flips-austria/

Review where it is already on sale.

https://insideevs.com/reviews/436266/honda-e-ev-review-uk-carfection/

 

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18 hours ago, balthazar said:

"EVs!  They're tremendously, hugely popular!  Like banana lollipops!"

I mean; c'mon. There's salesmanship, and there's reality.

Also, most of those electrics selling at prices outside the mainstream range of average vehicle price transactions in the US...not to mention highly subsidized in addition to that as well.

 

2 hours ago, David said:

Official Honda Anouncement.

https://global.honda/newsroom/news/2019/4190227eng.html

Seems in Australia they are already crashing the Honda e.

https://insideevs.com/news/436693/honda-e-crashes-flips-austria/

Review where it is already on sale.

https://insideevs.com/reviews/436266/honda-e-ev-review-uk-carfection/

 

don't we already have the retro electric Fiat 500?

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45 minutes ago, regfootball said:

don't we already have the retro electric Fiat 500?

Yes, we do have that compliance auto sold in select states, but currently end of life. This is to be sold globally including in every state in the US. I honestly do not think it will sell well due to the limited range, but it is a bit bigger than the Fiat 500.

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Quite impressive for the baby Bronco. It's a pretty long video but it definitely shows off what it can do.

 

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13 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Quite impressive for the baby Bronco. It's a pretty long video but it definitely shows off what it can do.

 

I wonder if they will add like Hummer had an Air system for auto air down and up on the tires. That would be really good for Rock crawling as well as mudding.

Wrangler should have had one and still does not to this day. Ford could pass them by and add it into the auto.

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20 minutes ago, David said:

I wonder if they will add like Hummer had an Air system for auto air down and up on the tires. That would be really good for Rock crawling as well as mudding.

Wrangler should have had one and still does not to this day. Ford could pass them by and add it into the auto.

No way that gets done to the Sport. There's a possibility for the Bronco's highest off-road trim but I don't think it is playing in that high of a market for a feature like that. They'd almost be better off offering a built-in compressor in the back with enough hose to reach all four tires. 

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11 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

No way that gets done to the Sport. There's a possibility for the Bronco's highest off-road trim but I don't think it is playing in that high of a market for a feature like that. They'd almost be better off offering a built-in compressor in the back with enough hose to reach all four tires. 

That is what I have in my SS, they built in a compressor with a 20ft hose so that you can reach all 4 tires.

The weird part is that I have honestly never used it as the Trailblazer SS AWD is not for off road use and I have never had a low tire that needed to be aired up. Nice to have though.

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      At launch, the ID.4 will only be available with a single electric motor mounted on the rear axle providing 201 horsepower and 228 pound-feet of torque. An 82-kilowatt-hour lithium-ion battery pack provides the juice. Range is estimated at 250 miles. A dual-motor version with 302 horsepower and all-wheel drive will come out sometime next year.
      For charging, Volkswagen says that on a Level Two charger, the ID.4 takes around 7.5 hours from an empty battery. If you can find a DC fast charger, the recharge time drops significantly: Volkswagen claims that the battery can reach an 80% charge in 38 minutes.
      Pricing for the ID.4 will begin at $39,995 for the base Pro when it arrives at dealers at the end of the year. No mention on destination. But Volkswagen is planning to drop the price of the ID.4 once production begins at the Chattanooga Assembly Plant in Tennessee.
       
      Source: Volkswagen
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      Volkswagen unveils the all-new 2021 ID.4 electric SUV
      Sep 23, 2020
      Reservations for the ID.4 start online today with 50-state launch in early 2021 MSRP starts at $39,995 for ID.4 Pro before potential $7,500 Federal tax credit Estimated 250 miles of range on ID.4 1st Edition Compact SUV will be available in rear-wheel drive 201-hp 82 kWh (launching first) and all-wheel-drive 302-hp 82 kWh configurations Three years of fast charging with Electrify America at no additional cost Modern design pairs with high-tech features, like DRIVE® advanced driver assistance technology and a smart infotainment system, using voice and touch Localized production in Chattanooga, starting in 2022 with anticipated MSRP around $35,000 Herndon, VA — Volkswagen of America, Inc. revealed the all-new ID.4 electric SUV today—the brand’s first long-range EV to be sold stateside. This compact SUV will offer all the best features of Volkswagen’s current lineup—hallmark driving dynamics, bold design, and advanced technology—along with long-range EV capability and three years of fast charging with Electrify America for no additional cost, to customers in the largest segment in the U.S., all with a price point aimed at the heart of the segment.
      “The ID.4 was engineered, loaded and priced to win the hearts of SUV owners who are simply ready to go electric—and fall in love with Volkswagen again,” said Scott Keogh, CEO, Volkswagen Group of America. “It drives like a GTI, it has the packaging of a Tiguan and the purpose of the Beetle. All the best things about VW in one package.”
      Powertrain & Charging
      The ID.4 electric compact SUV is based on the modular electric drive architecture (MEB). While it is the brand’s newest platform, it also represents a return to Volkswagen’s roots, with the electric motor located at the rear, just like the original Beetle.
      The heart of the ID.4 is a battery pack comprised of 288 pouch cells in 12 modules, positioned in the underbody to create a low center of gravity for optimal driving dynamics as well as extremely well-balanced weight distribution. It is housed in a lightweight aluminum structure that is bolted to the frame, helping to improve rigidity.
      At launch, the vehicle will be offered with an 82kWh (gross) battery and a rear-mounted AC permanent-magnet synchronous motor with 201 horsepower and 228 pound-feet of torque. Volkswagen estimates that the ID.4 82kWh RWD 1st Edition models will have a range of 250 miles with a full charge on the EPA cycle. A powerful, electric all-wheel-drive variant with 302 hp will follow later in 2021.
      The ID.4 also comes with three years of fast charging with Electrify America at no additional cost, helping to reduce range anxiety. The ID.4 can be charged with both alternating current (AC) and direct current (DC) fast-charging capability. The 11 kW onboard charger allows the ID.4 to charge the battery 33 miles in about one hour, and charges to full in around seven and a half hours at a home or public Level 2 charger. At a DC fast-charging station, with 125 kW charging, the ID.4 can go from five to 80 percent charged in about 38 minutes.
      Chassis
      The ID.4 is designed to be strong, yet agile. The chassis and body are made from steel. The front suspension is a strut-type with lower control arms, coil springs, telescopic dampers and anti-roll bar. In the rear, the ID.4 uses a multi-link rear axle with coil springs, telescopic dampers and an anti-roll bar. With 3.5 turns lock-to-lock and a stellar curb-to-curb turning radius of 33.5 feet, the ID.4 feels nimble, especially among other compact SUVs.
      A combination of brake types is used on ID.4. It features disc brakes on the front wheels and drum brakes on the rear—the difference being specific to electric vehicle needs. As EVs rely on regenerative braking, disc brakes on the rear can be less effective than drums after long periods of not being put to heavy use.
      Exterior
      Like the platform, the design of ID.4 represents a move towards the future with a nod to the past. At the front, the Volkswagen logo is able to be positioned centrally because there is no radiator grille, as it was on the Beetle. Large LED headlights flow backwards, hinting at the aerodynamic nature of the car, while a sculpted front bumper with large intake-like scoops and honeycomb accents give the car a powerful presence. Models fitted with the Statement package add an illuminated Volkswagen logo and an illuminated light line that stretches outward from it, creating a striking light signature.
      Front to back, clean, flowing lines alternate with crisp edges for a refined, yet futuristic look. A softly molded side section curves under the crisp rising shoulder line and flush illuminated door handles. The low greenhouse runs out into a strong C-pillar—a classic Volkswagen design feature—and into a long spoiler. The ID.4’s aerodynamically refined exterior helps it achieve an excellent drag coefficient of 0.28.
      The ID.4 sits squarely in the middle of the compact SUV segment, size-wise. It is 4.6 inches shorter than the Volkswagen Tiguan, at 180.5 inches, with a 0.9 inch shorter wheelbase at 108.9 inches. It is 1.9 inches lower than Tiguan at 64.4 inches high for the rear-wheel drive model, and 0.5 inches wider, at 72.9 inches.
      The ID.4 will available in six exterior colors—Glacier White Metallic, Mythos Black Metallic, Moonstone Grey, Scale Silver Metallic, Blue Dusk Metallic and King’s Red Metallic. All models come with a body color roof, black roof rails, and 19-inch aluminum alloy wheels. The Statement package adds a panoramic fixed-glass roof, premium LED projector headlights with Volkswagen’s Adaptive Front-lighting System (AFS) and power-folding side mirrors with puddle lamp signature, while the Gradient package (sold on top of the Statement package) upgrades to 20-inch wheels, black roof, and silver roof rails and accents.
      Interior
      Volkswagen’s first fully-electric SUV features ample space and a modern design. Passenger volume is similar to the Tiguan despite the overall smaller footprint, with 99.9 cubic feet total. Legroom is a comfortable 41.1 inches for front passengers and 37.6 inches in the rear seat. Cargo volume is 30.3 cubic feet behind the second row, and 64.2 cubic feet with the seats folded.
      The interior of the ID.4 mirrors the futuristic look of the exterior, with functionality almost completely controlled by touch or voice control. The 5.3-inch ID.Cockpit (digital driver display) replaces the traditional instrument cluster and is operated with touch-sensitive controls on the leather-wrapped multifunction heated steering wheel. Three tiles show the most important information, with the display for battery status and range underneath. The traditional gearshift is replaced by a large rocker switch on the right of the ID.Cockpit, and a control panel to the left of the steering wheel integrates the lighting functions, including automatic headlights.
      A 10-inch Discover Pro touch infotainment display is located in the middle of the dash panel, angled slightly towards the driver. This screen can be configured to driver preference, and manages the standard navigation system, all telematics, entertainment, driver-assistance systems and vehicle settings; it is upgraded to a 12-inch Discover Pro Max infotainment display with the Statement package. Menus can be moved using gesture control, simply swiping one’s hand in front of the screen. Sliders for volume and temperature adjustment are located on the inclined surface below the display.
      “Hello ID.” natural voice control is standard in the ID.4. The car follows the instructions spoken by the driver and passengers and is capable of understanding many commands from everyday language, such as “Hello ID., I’m cold” to turn up the heat.
      The ID.4 will feature ID. Light—a light strip below the windshield to support drivers in a host of situations with intuitive lighting effects in different colors and sound prompts. For example, ID. Light signals to the driver that the vehicle’s drive system is active and that the car has been unlocked or locked. It accentuates information issued by some of the driver-assistance and navigation systems and signals, both visually and acoustically, details like charge status indicator, braking prompts and incoming phone calls.
      The steering wheel, steering column, and the housings for the display and control panels in the doors are finished in Piano Black. Seats in the ID.4 are finished in black cloth on entry models and Lunar Gray or Galaxy Black leatherette on models with the Statement package. Entry ID.4 models feature six-way adjustable seats with power recline, while the Statement package adds 12-way power seats, with massage lumbar and memory, as well as 30-color ambient lighting.
      ID.4 offers a range of comfort and convenience features found throughout the rest of the brand’s lineup. Standard features include rain-sensing wipers, auto-dimming rearview mirror, dual-zone Climatronic® climate control, and KESSY® keyless access. To manage cold temperatures, the ID.4 features a standard heated steering wheel, heated side mirrors and washer nozzles, and, on all-wheel-drive models, a heated windshield. The Statement package adds SiriusXM® satellite radio with a three-month trial, an adjustable trunk floor, and a power tailgate with Easy Open & Close.
      To complete the high-tech package, ID.4 offers standard wireless mobile charging, wireless App-Connect, and Volkswagen Car-Net® with in-car WiFi capability when you subscribe to a data plan. Car-Net Hotspot allows passengers to access the internet with up to four connected devices simultaneously, including tablets, smartphones, laptops, gaming devices, and more—all at 4G LTE-enabled speed.
      Safety & Driver Assistance Technology
      To help protect occupants, the ID.4 provides a combination of both passive and active safety systems. It features six airbags as standard—front and side airbags for front passengers, and side curtain airbags for outboard seating positions. Additionally there are a number of electronic safety systems, such as an Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) and Electronic Stability Control (ESC).
      With regards to the battery, an extruded aluminum frame protects the battery system against damage in the event of a crash, and a replaceable aluminum underbody panel protects the battery against the road. Additionally, the battery is also disabled if the vehicle is involved in a serious accident.
      With the standard IQ.DRIVE® advanced driver assistance technology, all ID.4 models include Forward Collision Warning and Autonomous Emergency Braking with Pedestrian Monitoring (Front Assist); Blind Spot Monitor (Side Assist); Rear Traffic Alert; Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC); Lane Keeping System (Lane Assist); Travel Assist; and Emergency Assist. In addition to IQ.DRIVE features, the ID.4 includes Dynamic Road Sign Display; Park Distance Control; and High Beam Control (Light Assist).
      Pricing & Sales
      Pricing for the ID.4 starts at $39,995, for the rear-wheel-drive ID.4 Pro (available in the first quarter of 2021), before a potential Federal tax credit of up to $7,500 is applied. With those credits, the entry price of ID.4 is on par with the 2021 Tiguan SEL.  For highly qualified customers through Volkswagen Credit, the monthly lease payment for a 36-month lease with 10,000 miles a year, is $379 per month with $3,579 due at signing, excluding tax, title, license, options and dealer fees.
      Starting later in 2021, the ID.4 AWD Pro ($43,695) will be available. Both Pro models carry largely the same equipment, with AWD models putting out 302 hp, and adding a heated windshield and tow hitch. These models can be additionally outfitted with two packages—Statement ($4,500), and Gradient ($1,500), which is only offered with Statement.
      The ID.4 launches with a limited-run ID.4 1st Edition (MSRP $43,995). The 1st Edition models feature the same content as the Pro model, and Statement package (minus illuminated VW logo) and Gradient package come standard. These models also include unique features including accelerator and brake pedals with “play” and “pause” logos, the steering wheel and column, radio bezel and door island finished in Electric White, 1st Edition badging, black mirror caps, and a tow hitch.
      Volkswagen plans to offer the ID.4 electric vehicle across all 50 states, and throughout its network of more than 600 dealers. A reservation platform debuts today on VW.com, allowing customers to reserve an ID.4 before it hits dealer showrooms, with a fully refundable $100 reservation fee. As vehicle production starts, reservation holders will be invited to confirm their order with an additional fully refundable $400 vehicle deposit. From placing a reservation, to production and through delivery, the customer can see where they stand and when they can expect their ID. 4 to arrive at their preferred local VW dealer in a simple, transparent process. At that time, the customer can transact with their dealer and complete their purchase.
    • By William Maley
      The Jeep Wrangler is going green with the introduction of the 4xe.
      This plug-in hybrid version of the Wrangler pairs a 2.0L turbo-four with a transmission-mounted electric motor. Total output is 375 horsepower and 470 pound-feet of torque, making this the powerful production Wrangler to date. A 17.0-kWh, liquid-cooled battery pack battery pack mounted under the rear-seat provides the electric juice and allows the 4xe to travel up 25 miles on electric power only. The transmission is an eight-speed automatic. Jeep hasn't revealed how long it takes to charge up the 4xe.
      Before you start thinking that going plug-in hybrid lessens the capability, Jeep says the 4xe models come with Dana 44 axles front and rear, and the various electronics have been waterproofed - allowing it to ford up to 30 inches of water. Base and Sahara models come with a two-speed transfer case with automatic four-wheel-drive mode and a 2.72:1 low-range. Rubicon models feature a transfer case with a 4:1 low-range, electronic locking front and rear axles with a 4.1:1 ratio, and an electronic sway bar disconnect.
      The 4xe does give up cargo space, with 27.7 cubic feet behind the rear seats (down four) and 67.4 with the rear seats folded (down five). It is also heavier with the base model coming at 5,000 pounds - about 800 pounds heavier than the gas model. 
      Jeep will begin selling the Wrangler 4xe early next year in the three trims mentioned above. You'll only be able to get it in the four-door version. Expecting pricing to be above $30,000 or so.
       
      Source: Jeep
      Press Release is on Page 2
      New Jeep® Wrangler 4xe Joins Renegade and Compass 4xe Models in Brand’s Global Electric Vehicle Lineup
      Advanced, Eco-friendly, Premium Technology Delivers Absolute and Quiet Open-air Freedom, an Even More Fun-to-drive On-road Experience and a New Level of Benchmark Jeep® Off-road Capability
      4xe electric vehicle technology is the natural evolution of nearly 80 years of Jeep® capability leadership Jeep 4xe vehicles provide new levels of efficiency, environmental responsibility, performance and capability, on and off the road Jeep Wrangler 4xe available in Europe, China and the United States by early 2021; Jeep Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe models began arriving in Europe this summer Wrangler 4xe boasts 375 horsepower and delivers up to 25 miles of pure electric operation for daily commutes while providing nearly silent, zero-emission, open-air freedom without range anxiety Torque-on-demand electric power enhances Wrangler’s on-road performance, delivering crisp launches from a standing start and plenty of low-speed thrust Low-speed, peak torque-on-demand raises Wrangler’s legendary off-road benchmark to master off-road environments Wrangler 4xe is first and foremost a Jeep Wrangler with Trail Rated running gear: solid front and rear axles, full-time 4x4 two-speed transfer case, fully articulating suspension and 30 inches of water fording capability Wrangler 4xe’s advanced turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine, two electric motors and robust TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission combine to deliver an estimated 50 MPGe 400-volt, 17 kWh, 96-cell battery pack mounts beneath second-row seat to protect it from outside elements and to preserve the interior space Wrangler 4xe features exclusive exterior design cues to signify efficient, environmentally friendly, electrification technology Available for order in Europe, Jeep Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe deliver up to 240 horsepower and approximately 50 kilometers (31 miles) of zero-emission pure electric range September 3, 2020 , Auburn Hills, Mich. - The Jeep® brand has introduced its new Wrangler 4xe, marking the arrival of the most capable, technically advanced and eco-friendly Wrangler ever. Jeep Wrangler 4xe models will be available in Europe, China and the United States by early 2021. The Jeep Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe models – introduced last year in Geneva – began arriving in Europe this summer. The new Jeep 4xe models follow the introduction of the Jeep Grand Commander PHEV in China last year.
      The Wrangler 4xe’s plug-in hybrid powertrain is capable of up to 25 miles of nearly silent, zero-emission, electric-only propulsion, making it commuter friendly as an all-electric daily driver without range anxiety and the most capable and eco-friendly Jeep vehicle off-road – combined with the open-air freedom that only Jeep Wrangler offers.
      Jeep will offer electrification options on each nameplate in the next few years as it strives to become the leader in eco-friendly premium technology. Electrified Jeep vehicles will carry the 4xe badge. Jeep electric vehicles will be the most efficient and responsible Jeep vehicles ever, taking performance, 4x4 capability and driver confidence to the next level.
      “Our Jeep 4xe vehicles will be the most efficient, responsible and capable that the brand has ever created,” said Christian Meunier, Global President of Jeep Brand - FCA. “We are committed to make Jeep the greenest SUV brand. The electrification of the Jeep lineup will allow commuters to travel solely on electric power, delivering an efficient and fun on-road experience and offering an ability to enjoy even more Jeep capability off-road in nearly complete silence.”
      The Wrangler 4xe’s advanced powertrain provides a unique on- and off-road experience through the combination of two electric motors, a high-voltage battery pack, a high-tech 2.0-liter turbocharged I-4 engine and robust TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission. The most advanced powertrain ever developed for a Jeep Wrangler maximizes efficiency with an estimated 50 miles per gallon equivalent (MPGe) while eliminating range anxiety, delivering pure-electric operation for most daily commutes.
      Torque from the electric motors in the Wrangler 4xe’s hybrid powertrain arrives instantly on demand from the driver. The powertrain also delivers fuel-saving, seamless, start-stop operation of the engine.
      Jeep has demonstrated 4x4 capability leadership for nearly 80 years. Jeep vehicles were the first to feature an automatic full-time four-wheel-drive system, first 4:1 transfer case and first electronic front sway-bar disconnect system. Merging electrification into the product lineup is a natural evolution.
      The Jeep Wrangler 4xe will be sold globally, with electric vehicle (EV) charge port plugs tailored to specific regions. It is assembled at FCA’s Toledo Assembly Complex in Toledo, Ohio.
      Wrangler 4xe Advanced Powertrain Combines Electric Motors, Turbo Engine
      The Jeep Wrangler 4xe powertrain integrates two electric motors and a 400-volt battery pack with a fuel-efficient, turbocharged, four-cylinder engine and TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission. This configuration maximizes the efficiency of the hybrid propulsion components and mates them with the Wrangler’s world-renowned and proven driveline.
      Key elements of the Wrangler 4xe powertrain include 375 horsepower (280 kW), 470 lb.-ft. (637 N•m) of torque and an estimated 50 MPGe from the following components:
      2.0-liter turbocharged I-4 Engine-mounted motor generator unit Transmission-mounted motor generator unit integrated into eight-speed automatic transmission (ZF 8P75PH) 400-volt, 17-kWh, 96-cell lithium-ion, nickel manganese cobalt battery pack The 2.0-liter turbocharged I-4 engine is part of FCA’s Global Medium Engine family. The high-tech, direct-injection engine uses a twin-scroll, low-inertia turbocharger mounted directly to the cylinder head, along with a dedicated cooling circuit for the turbocharger, intake air and throttle body for exceptional responsiveness, performance and fuel efficiency.
      A high-voltage, liquid-cooled motor generator unit mounts at the front of the engine, replacing the conventional alternator. A robust belt connects the motor generator to the engine crankshaft pulley. The motor generator spins the engine for nearly seamless, fuel-saving, start-stop operation and generates electricity for the battery pack. The Wrangler 4xe does not use a conventional 12-volt starter motor. The Wrangler 4xe is equipped with a 12-volt battery to run accessories.
      The second high-voltage motor generator is mounted at the front of the transmission case, replacing the conventional torque converter of an automatic transmission.

      Two clutches work to manage power and torque from the e-motor and engine. A binary clutch (on/off) is mounted between the engine and the motor. When this clutch is open there is no mechanical linkage between the engine and the e-motor, which enables it to propel the Wrangler 4xe in electric-only mode.
      When the binary clutch is closed, torque from the 2.0-liter engine and the e-motor flow combine through the automatic transmission. A variable clutch mounted behind the e-motor manages engagement with the transmission to improve drivability and efficiency.
      Battery Pack Preserves Interior Room
      The Jeep Wrangler 4xe’s 400-volt, 17-kWh, 96-cell lithium-ion battery pack uses nickel manganese cobalt (NMC) graphite chemistry. The pack and controls mount underneath the second-row seat, where it is protected from outside elements. The Wrangler 4xe’s second-row seat is redesigned, allowing the bottom cushion to flip forward for access to the battery.
      Encased in an aluminum housing, the pack is fitted with a dedicated heating and cooling circuit to keep the battery at its optimum temperature for best performance. The temperature control circuit includes a dedicated heater unit and a chiller that uses the Wrangler air-conditioning refrigerant to reduce coolant temperature when needed.
      The Wrangler 4xe hybrid system includes an Integrated Dual Charging Module (ICDM), which combines a battery charger and a DC/DC converter in a single unit that is more compact than two separate components, and a next-generation Power Inverter Module (PIM) that is reduced in size. These components are housed and protected from damage in a steel structure mounted below the battery pack.
      All high-voltage electronics, including the wiring between the battery pack and the electric motors, are sealed and waterproof. Like all Trail Rated Jeep Wranglers, the Wrangler 4xe is capable of water fording up to 30 inches (76 cm).
      The electric charge port features a push-open/push-close cover and is located on the left front cowl of the Wrangler 4xe for convenient nose-in parking at charging locations. The charge port includes LED indicators of charging status. An LED battery level monitor is mounted on top of the instrument panel, making it easy to check battery state of charge at a glance during charging.
      Wrangler 4xe E Selec Modes
      The Jeep Wrangler 4xe driver can tailor the hybrid powertrain to best suit each trip, whether it is filling the needs of most daily commuters in pure-electric operation, a night on the town or quietly exploring nature off-road.
      The Wrangler 4xe hybrid powertrain has three modes of operation, known as E Selec. The driver can select the desired powertrain mode via buttons mounted on the instrument panel, to the left of the steering wheel. Regardless of the mode selected, the Wrangler 4xe operates as hybrid once the battery nears its minimum state of charge.
      Hybrid: The default mode blends torque from the 2.0-liter engine and electric motor. In this mode, the powertrain will use battery power first, then add in propulsion from the 2.0-liter turbocharged I-4 when the battery reaches minimum state of charge Electric: The powertrain operates on zero-emission electric power only until the battery reaches the minimum charge or the driver requests more torque (such as wide-open throttle), which engages the 2.0-liter engine eSave: Prioritizes propulsion from the 2.0-liter engine, saving the battery charge for later use, such as EV off-roading or urban areas where internal combustion propulsion is restricted. The driver can also choose between Battery Save and Battery Charge during eSave via the Hybrid Electric Pages in the Uconnect monitor To help optimize the benefit of the E Selec modes, the Wrangler 4xe driver information display and the Uconnect touchscreen feature Eco Coaching Pages. The Eco Coaching Pages let owners monitor power flow and see the impact of regenerative braking, schedule charging times to take advantage of lower electric rates, and view their driving history with a detail of electric and gasoline usage.
      Regenerative braking is a key part of the Wrangler 4xe eco-friendly equation. When the driver steps on the brake pedal, the powertrain control engages the maximum available regenerative braking, up to 0.25 g, from the electric motors to slow the vehicle, augmented with the Wrangler’s traditional friction brakes. The regenerative braking feature also extends the replacement period for brake pads.
      With 4x4 engaged, all four wheels feed torque for regenerative braking, maximizing the energy recovery. Electricity due to regenerative braking is fed to the battery pack to maintain or increase the state of charge.
      The Wrangler 4xe also features the ability to maximize regenerative energy production via a driver-selectable Max Regen feature.
      When Max Regen is engaged, a more assertive regenerative braking calibration occurs when the vehicle sees zero throttle input from the driver (coasting). Max Regen can slow the Wrangler 4xe faster than standard regenerative braking and generate more electricity for the battery pack. Once selected, the Max Regen feature remains engaged until driver deselects it.
      Off-road Legend
      Jeep Wrangler’s heritage is defined by its legendary off-road capability. All Wrangler 4xe power modes are available when the drivetrain is shifted to 4Lo. The seamless integration of electric power into the 4x4 drivetrain elevates the Wrangler 4xe to new levels of off-road performance.
      Enthusiasts will find that the instant availability of torque from the Wrangler 4xe’s electric motor delivers a more precise and controlled driving experience for climbing and crawling – there’s no need to build up engine rpm to get the tires to move, minimizing driveline shock loading and maximizing control and speed.
      In EV mode, the Wrangler 4xe treads lightly and silently, conserving fuel and allowing occupants to focus solely on the sights and full sounds of nature.
      The new Jeep Wrangler 4xe is available in three models: 4xe, Sahara 4xe and Rubicon 4xe. Wrangler 4xe and Wrangler Sahara 4xe models are equipped with full-time 4x4 systems, front and rear next-generation Dana 44 axles and are fitted with the Selec-Trac two-speed transfer case with a 2.72:1 low-range gear ratio. The intuitive system allows the driver to set it and forget it in any environment.
      An available Trac-Lok limited-slip rear differential provides extra grip and capability in low-traction situations, such as driving over sand, gravel, snow or ice.
      Wrangler Rubicon 4xe models carry the Rock-Trac 4x4 system that includes a two-speed transfer case with a 4:1 low-range gear ratio, full-time 4x4, front and rear next-generation Dana 44 axles, Tru-Lok electric front- and rear-axle lockers. The Wrangler Rubicon 4xe has an impressive crawl ratio of 77.2:1, which makes scaling any obstacle easy. Wrangler Rubicon models also offer improved articulation and total suspension travel with help from a front axle, electronic sway-bar disconnect. Together, these components contribute to the maximum off-road prowess Wrangler Rubicon is known for.
      The Wrangler 4xe includes Selec-Speed Control with Hill-ascent and Hill-descent Control. This allows drivers to control vehicle speed up and down steep, rugged grades with the transmission shift lever.
      Like every Jeep Wrangler, the Jeep Wrangler 4xe models wear a Trail Rated badge that signifies legendary 4x4 capability with equipment that includes:
      Skid plates and front and rear tow hooks Wrangler Rubicon 4xe approach angle of 44 degrees, breakover angle of 22.5 degrees, departure angle of 35.6 degrees and ground clearance of 10.8 inches (27.4 cm) Aggressive, available, 17-inch, off-road wheels and 33-inch tires standard on Rubicon 4xe; 20-inch wheels standard on Wrangler 4xe and Sahara 4xe Up to 30 inches (76 cm) of water fording All 4xe models maintain Wrangler’s renowned ease of customization with a host of Jeep Performance Parts from Mopar, available when the vehicle arrives in showrooms.
      ‘Electric Blue’ Design Cues Mark Wrangler 4xe
      The 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe maintains a sculptural design aesthetic that’s bold and functional, with a wide stance and trapezoidal wheel flares.
      Exclusive content identifies the Jeep Wrangler 4xe as the most technologically advanced Wrangler ever. New Electric Blue coloring on the front and rear Rubicon tow hooks stands out against the black bumpers. The unique blue coloring also traces the Rubicon name on the hood, Jeep badge and the Trail Rated badge. Select Easter egg design cues also receive the Electric Blue shade. The black hood decal is outlined in the special color with “4xe” that lets the body color show through.
      Inside, the Wrangler 4xe Rubicon includes unique Electric Blue stitching on the seats and trim.
      The 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe is available in 10 exterior colors: Black, Bright White, Firecracker Red, Granite Crystal Metallic, Hella Yella, Hydro Blue (late availability), Sting-Gray, Snazzberry, Sarge and Billet Silver Metallic. Two Wrangler interior options are available in the 4xe version: Black with Heritage Tan cloth and Black with Dark Saddle leather.
      Jeep Renegade 4xe and Jeep Compass 4xe
      Presented globally in March 2019 at the Geneva Motor Show, the new Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe are the first Jeep models with plug-in hybrid electric technology available in Europe. Their arrival was celebrated in January with the exclusive First Edition – a special launch edition made available for customer previews and pre-booking on a dedicated website for select European markets. Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe began arriving in the European market this summer. Both Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe models feature a no-compromise hybrid solution that integrates the unmatched technical layout of each Jeep SUV and takes their capability to the next level through some of the most advanced technology, which combines enhanced performance (up to 240 horsepower), improved safety (four-wheel drive is always available) and low environmental impact (less than 50 g/km of CO2 in the hybrid mode).
      The combination of a 1.3-liter turbocharged gasoline engine and the electric unit guarantees performance and extraordinary driving pleasure: acceleration from 0 to 100 km/h in less than 7.5 seconds and full electric top speed is 130 km/h, which reaches 200 km/h in the hybrid mode.
      With the new hybrid technology, Jeep Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe further improve their benchmark off-road capability courtesy of the greater torque offered by the combination between the two power sources. Thanks to the new Jeep 4xe technology, traction to the rear axle is not provided by a prop shaft, but through the dedicated electric motor. This allows the two axles to be separated and control the torque independently in a more effective way than a mechanical system, giving instant electric boost to the rear wheels when needed.
      The new Jeep Renegade 4xe and Jeep Compass 4xe began arriving in Jeep dealerships across Europe this summer with a full lineup to include Limited, S and Trailhawk trims, all with four-wheel-drive configuration.
      Mopar and Jeep Performance Parts Supports Launch of Most Capable, Technically Advanced, Eco-friendly Jeep Wrangler Ever
      When the new 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe (pronounced 4byE) plug-in hybrid joins the Jeep brand’s global electric vehicle lineup later this year, Jeep Performance Parts and Mopar will offer a wide variety of factory-engineered, quality-tested performance parts and accessories for the most capable, technically advanced and eco-friendly SUV on the planet.
      The comprehensive portfolio of more than 300 Jeep Wrangler products will include exclusive Jeep Performance Parts (JPP) offerings, allowing customers the opportunity to expand upon the Wrangler’s fun-to-drive on- and off-road experiences. An industry-first, OEM-developed JPP 2-inch lift kit is specifically engineered and tuned for the Wrangler 4xe plug-in hybrid application. Additional products will include beadlock-capable wheels, off-road bumpers, LED off-road lights and rock rails, just to name a few. More detailed information will be available closer to launch.
      In addition, Jeep Performance Parts and Mopar will offer a 240-volt at-home electric vehicle (EV) wall charger on Amazon.com and quality installation services, giving customers a fast and convenient way to charge their vehicles at home.
      Unlike any other aftermarket offerings, Jeep Performance Parts and accessories are backed by a full factory warranty. The products are created in close conjunction with the Jeep brand, engineering and product design-office teams for development, testing and validation. Strict standards and factory-exclusive data — information not available to the aftermarket — are used to seamlessly integrate performance parts and accessories in order to deliver proper fit, finish and quality right down to the color, grain, and appearance of each product.

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      The Jeep Wrangler is going green with the introduction of the 4xe.
      This plug-in hybrid version of the Wrangler pairs a 2.0L turbo-four with a transmission-mounted electric motor. Total output is 375 horsepower and 470 pound-feet of torque, making this the powerful production Wrangler to date. A 17.0-kWh, liquid-cooled battery pack battery pack mounted under the rear-seat provides the electric juice and allows the 4xe to travel up 25 miles on electric power only. The transmission is an eight-speed automatic. Jeep hasn't revealed how long it takes to charge up the 4xe.
      Before you start thinking that going plug-in hybrid lessens the capability, Jeep says the 4xe models come with Dana 44 axles front and rear, and the various electronics have been waterproofed - allowing it to ford up to 30 inches of water. Base and Sahara models come with a two-speed transfer case with automatic four-wheel-drive mode and a 2.72:1 low-range. Rubicon models feature a transfer case with a 4:1 low-range, electronic locking front and rear axles with a 4.1:1 ratio, and an electronic sway bar disconnect.
      The 4xe does give up cargo space, with 27.7 cubic feet behind the rear seats (down four) and 67.4 with the rear seats folded (down five). It is also heavier with the base model coming at 5,000 pounds - about 800 pounds heavier than the gas model. 
      Jeep will begin selling the Wrangler 4xe early next year in the three trims mentioned above. You'll only be able to get it in the four-door version. Expecting pricing to be above $30,000 or so.
       
      Source: Jeep
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      New Jeep® Wrangler 4xe Joins Renegade and Compass 4xe Models in Brand’s Global Electric Vehicle Lineup
      Advanced, Eco-friendly, Premium Technology Delivers Absolute and Quiet Open-air Freedom, an Even More Fun-to-drive On-road Experience and a New Level of Benchmark Jeep® Off-road Capability
      4xe electric vehicle technology is the natural evolution of nearly 80 years of Jeep® capability leadership Jeep 4xe vehicles provide new levels of efficiency, environmental responsibility, performance and capability, on and off the road Jeep Wrangler 4xe available in Europe, China and the United States by early 2021; Jeep Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe models began arriving in Europe this summer Wrangler 4xe boasts 375 horsepower and delivers up to 25 miles of pure electric operation for daily commutes while providing nearly silent, zero-emission, open-air freedom without range anxiety Torque-on-demand electric power enhances Wrangler’s on-road performance, delivering crisp launches from a standing start and plenty of low-speed thrust Low-speed, peak torque-on-demand raises Wrangler’s legendary off-road benchmark to master off-road environments Wrangler 4xe is first and foremost a Jeep Wrangler with Trail Rated running gear: solid front and rear axles, full-time 4x4 two-speed transfer case, fully articulating suspension and 30 inches of water fording capability Wrangler 4xe’s advanced turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine, two electric motors and robust TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission combine to deliver an estimated 50 MPGe 400-volt, 17 kWh, 96-cell battery pack mounts beneath second-row seat to protect it from outside elements and to preserve the interior space Wrangler 4xe features exclusive exterior design cues to signify efficient, environmentally friendly, electrification technology Available for order in Europe, Jeep Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe deliver up to 240 horsepower and approximately 50 kilometers (31 miles) of zero-emission pure electric range September 3, 2020 , Auburn Hills, Mich. - The Jeep® brand has introduced its new Wrangler 4xe, marking the arrival of the most capable, technically advanced and eco-friendly Wrangler ever. Jeep Wrangler 4xe models will be available in Europe, China and the United States by early 2021. The Jeep Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe models – introduced last year in Geneva – began arriving in Europe this summer. The new Jeep 4xe models follow the introduction of the Jeep Grand Commander PHEV in China last year.
      The Wrangler 4xe’s plug-in hybrid powertrain is capable of up to 25 miles of nearly silent, zero-emission, electric-only propulsion, making it commuter friendly as an all-electric daily driver without range anxiety and the most capable and eco-friendly Jeep vehicle off-road – combined with the open-air freedom that only Jeep Wrangler offers.
      Jeep will offer electrification options on each nameplate in the next few years as it strives to become the leader in eco-friendly premium technology. Electrified Jeep vehicles will carry the 4xe badge. Jeep electric vehicles will be the most efficient and responsible Jeep vehicles ever, taking performance, 4x4 capability and driver confidence to the next level.
      “Our Jeep 4xe vehicles will be the most efficient, responsible and capable that the brand has ever created,” said Christian Meunier, Global President of Jeep Brand - FCA. “We are committed to make Jeep the greenest SUV brand. The electrification of the Jeep lineup will allow commuters to travel solely on electric power, delivering an efficient and fun on-road experience and offering an ability to enjoy even more Jeep capability off-road in nearly complete silence.”
      The Wrangler 4xe’s advanced powertrain provides a unique on- and off-road experience through the combination of two electric motors, a high-voltage battery pack, a high-tech 2.0-liter turbocharged I-4 engine and robust TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission. The most advanced powertrain ever developed for a Jeep Wrangler maximizes efficiency with an estimated 50 miles per gallon equivalent (MPGe) while eliminating range anxiety, delivering pure-electric operation for most daily commutes.
      Torque from the electric motors in the Wrangler 4xe’s hybrid powertrain arrives instantly on demand from the driver. The powertrain also delivers fuel-saving, seamless, start-stop operation of the engine.
      Jeep has demonstrated 4x4 capability leadership for nearly 80 years. Jeep vehicles were the first to feature an automatic full-time four-wheel-drive system, first 4:1 transfer case and first electronic front sway-bar disconnect system. Merging electrification into the product lineup is a natural evolution.
      The Jeep Wrangler 4xe will be sold globally, with electric vehicle (EV) charge port plugs tailored to specific regions. It is assembled at FCA’s Toledo Assembly Complex in Toledo, Ohio.
      Wrangler 4xe Advanced Powertrain Combines Electric Motors, Turbo Engine
      The Jeep Wrangler 4xe powertrain integrates two electric motors and a 400-volt battery pack with a fuel-efficient, turbocharged, four-cylinder engine and TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission. This configuration maximizes the efficiency of the hybrid propulsion components and mates them with the Wrangler’s world-renowned and proven driveline.
      Key elements of the Wrangler 4xe powertrain include 375 horsepower (280 kW), 470 lb.-ft. (637 N•m) of torque and an estimated 50 MPGe from the following components:
      2.0-liter turbo