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2 hours ago, balthazar said:

24 gal tank X rated highway MPG of 26. I do about 9500-10,000 miles usually.

So then at $3.32 per gallon of Diesel here in Washington state at and we will go with your current 18.8 mpg, that would make @ 10,000 miles a year, 532 gallons of Diesel @ yearly cost of $1,766.00.

F-150 Lighting battery packs are estimated at 115kWH or 150kWH in size for standard and extended range.

563-HP 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning Turns America’s Top Seller Electric (caranddriver.com)

150 kWh battery pack is estimated at 300 miles so it will take 33.33 recharges to equal your 10,000 miles. At 6 cents per kWH you end up with 5,000 kW of power used or about $300 a year in electrical cost.

Very interesting. 🤔

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Well.......... it’s finally here.   UNFORTUNATELY, it’s far too nice for a bumpkin like me, so I politely refused it.   No; I guess I’ll take it. Going back tomm with a fat check a

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Name: 2021 GMC Sierra 1500 Duramax Category: Vehicles Date Added: 2021-01-06 Submitter: balthazar   2021 GMC Sierra 1500 Duramax   Dealer today said still waiting for order accepta

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Diesel in NJ right now runs about .30 cheaper/ gal than by you. And as I stated, I expect to settle in at more like 24 MPG. Some controlled testing has shown this engine getting 30 & 32 on highway trips. 🤫 Both those factors will significantly drop your numbers.

And seeing you use artificially low / partial tank/ pre-broken in MPG, what is your similar ‘adjustment’ to reduced range on the Lightning, due to weather or load or especially; running power equipment from this new ‘jobsite’ truck?? That ‘perfect unloaded world’ 300 may drop by more than half in actual use as portrayed by Ford marketing.


Ford’s recent quality issues, plus the lack of a 6.5’ bed, ruled them out. Plus, I’m simply not interested in an electric vehicle. 😜

Oh, and electric in NJ is 13.42 cents/kW.

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24 MPG over 10K miles = 416 gal.
At 3.09 = $1285 in fuel. I just saved myself $500!

But it sure would be interesting to see a typical Lightning work day: fully charged, drive a half hour, load the frunk with 400 lbs of concrete mix, drive a half hour to the job site, run saws & other power equipment for 8 hours, drive 45 mins home. It’s got a lot less to do with the miles than it does with the kW draw.

Turbo diesels don’t see nearly the same variation in usage demand, plus any electric draw (I do have a 110 V outlet in the bed) is immaterial; my battery is fully charged on the ride home.

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5 hours ago, balthazar said:

24 MPG over 10K miles = 416 gal.
At 3.09 = $1285 in fuel. I just saved myself $500!

But it sure would be interesting to see a typical Lightning work day: fully charged, drive a half hour, load the frunk with 400 lbs of concrete mix, drive a half hour to the job site, run saws & other power equipment for 8 hours, drive 45 mins home. It’s got a lot less to do with the miles than it does with the kW draw.

Turbo diesels don’t see nearly the same variation in usage demand, plus any electric draw (I do have a 110 V outlet in the bed) is immaterial; my battery is fully charged on the ride home.

Thank you, always great to have civil conversations about the auto technology.

Agree will be interesting to see how these EV's stack up and compare. 

Loving the truck, it really is a beauty. Wishing you all the best as you put her to work for your work.

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7 hours ago, balthazar said:

24 MPG over 10K miles = 416 gal.
At 3.09 = $1285 in fuel. I just saved myself $500!

But it sure would be interesting to see a typical Lightning work day: fully charged, drive a half hour, load the frunk with 400 lbs of concrete mix, drive a half hour to the job site, run saws & other power equipment for 8 hours, drive 45 mins home. It’s got a lot less to do with the miles than it does with the kW draw.

Turbo diesels don’t see nearly the same variation in usage demand, plus any electric draw (I do have a 110 V outlet in the bed) is immaterial; my battery is fully charged on the ride home.

Not saying you're wrong in any way, because you're not, but, you also need the generator and fuel in that scenario. 

It'll be really interesting to see how the Lightning plays out in the real world and what kind of draw the jobsite tools pull. 

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It'll break down to see the specific numbers. Frankly, being in the industry, I think the marketing push to show the truck as a 'power outlet' is over-wrought; people aren't doing so now and getting their jobs all done. But for those that suddenly are going to switch back to all corded tools against the tide of cordless... they would then be relying on their truck's motor for BOTH transportation and a day's worth of power draws. I doubt that'll ever be widely practical, and I don't see anyone 'downgrading' their tools just to plug into their pickup.

Range degradation is going to be a new, key factor for BE trucks, one that isn't nearly as significant as in BE cars/SUVs... that never carry the payload a truck does.

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Just now, balthazar said:

It'll break down to see the specific numbers. Frankly, being in the industry, I think the marketing push to show the truck as a 'power outlet' is over-wrought; people aren't doing so now and getting their jobs all done. But for those that suddenly are going to switch back to all corded tools against the tide of cordless... they would then be relying on their truck's motor for BOTH transportation and a day's worth of power draws. I doubt that'll ever be widely practical, and I don't see anyone 'downgrading' their tools just to plug into their pickup.

Range degradation is going to be a new, key factor for BE trucks, one that isn't nearly as significant as in BE cars/SUVs... that never carry the payload a truck does.

I would agree that I DO NOT see people going away from Cordless to corded tools. What I think the Marketing folks should have shown is a series of charging docks with batteries plugged in showing the people working with their cordless tools while awaiting the backup battery to charge to full.

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48 minutes ago, David said:

I would agree that I DO NOT see people going away from Cordless to corded tools. What I think the Marketing folks should have shown is a series of charging docks with batteries plugged in showing the people working with their cordless tools while awaiting the backup battery to charge to full.

My snow blower, leaf blower, leaf blower/mulcher, string trimmer, hand saw and chain saw are all corded...my drill is cordless w/ a charging dock.  I can definitely see how cordless would be better for some of those...

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8 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

My snow blower, leaf blower, leaf blower/mulcher, string trimmer, hand saw and chain saw are all corded...my drill is cordless w/ a charging dock.  I can definitely see how cordless would be better for some of those...

Corded yard tools?!?! I could never see myself considering those options. Cordless all the way. 

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13 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Corded yard tools?!?! I could never see myself considering those options. Cordless all the way. 

Yeah, Black & Decker..they work pretty well.  I have a 100 ft cord, and that's enough to reach back of my backyard.   Just have to not get tangled up in the cord, esp. the string trimmer.. 

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5 hours ago, ykX said:

Need to take a photo of your baby under more light, to let the color shine.  I would recommend in the morning or evening.

9am in a lite cloud cover gives a really even lighting with solid color without the cool light spectrum.

Agree, would love to see it in a more even light.

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After CARiD shipped me a bed mat for a Ford Super Duty, finally got my GM bed mat in. 
Took a 95-mile round trip today; bought a spare hood & rear bumper for my brother’s ‘71 GTO and dropped it off. Working thru the prior-to-me 110 miles out of the 400-mile MPG window… look at both the MPG and the miles driven/fuel gauge

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