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1 hour ago, Robert Hall said:

Meh, the difference is insignificant...two FWD/transverse 4cyl CVT mediocre appliances...same $h! ingredients, different size.  Nothing of significance...

The world (except for Bronco) is running out of RWD/4WD BOF authenticity.  Everything's going to crap if you haven't noticed, and it is going to get worse.  The original intent of the thread was to post some new product news.  Look where it is now.

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And the Rogue is a “great value” so long as you don’t add any real options to it. Below is for a FWD Rogue and you have to be swilling bong water to pay $36K for a FWD four pot with a CVT.  

The French vid is a Quebecois dude talking about the Bolt's success in Quebec and how good of a car it is. He says its a fantastic EV for Quebec and while there is cold battery drainage, not really a

I'm pretty powertrain agnostic, but the Nissan 4-cylinder is pretty far down on the heap of 4-cylinders in terms of being a good engine.  There are plenty of powertrains, gas, hybrid, diesel, EV, that

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2 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

The world (except for Bronco) is running out of RWD/4WD BOF authenticity.  Everything's going to crap if you haven't noticed, and it is going to get worse.  The original intent of the thread was to post some new product news.  Look where it is now.

Again, karma but not really. It’s a discussion where you think the car is great while no one else does. It happens and you’ll get over it.

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4 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

The world (except for Bronco) is running out of RWD/4WD BOF authenticity.  Everything's going to crap if you haven't noticed, and it is going to get worse.  The original intent of the thread was to post some new product news.  Look where it is now.

No one cares...the transverse 4cyl shit dominates the mass market, we all know that.  GM builds loads of them (even as Cadillacs), Ford builds loads of them, Jeep sells loads of them at the low end.   Hyundai/Kia sells loads of them, etc.   Just a bunch of forgettable appliances...no real distinction between brands, no point in talking about them, as they are about as exciting as moldy white bread and spoiled milk.   

 I couldn't care less as long as Jeep still builds proper SUVs, and the Bronco looks like it will be a proper SUV. 

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4 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

Again, karma but not really. It’s a discussion where you think the car is great while no one else does. It happens and you’ll get over it.

2022 Rogue Sport is a good looking vehicle.  I am currently afraid of Jeep because of deep-seated parts availability problems (we've had a Renegade in the shop for 6 months waiting on a wire harness that got destroyed, that is unacceptable).

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So what I am gathering form the OP is either we get:

Another carryover CVT and 4 pot, like its larger sibling which has already been widely decided as being complete s***.

 

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A hybrid, which certainly can be “no worse” than a CVT operated ICE that it will replace, but which the OP will no longer want.

 

And he wonders why some folks would never take car buying advice from him. Thanks for the pure comedy gold, is all I have to say!

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I am not asking you to buy another Nissan, surreal.  I do know the Nissan Rogue has sold better than a certain transverse-engine, FWD/AWD Ford station wagon (which I like, btw) every model year it was sold.

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51 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

I am not asking you to buy another Nissan, surreal.  I do know the Nissan Rogue has sold better than a certain transverse-engine, FWD/AWD Ford station wagon (which I like, btw) every model year it was sold.

Because I give two s***s about sales and whether you like my car or not (again, refer to my buying advice statement). Don’t be a salty Sally over it just because no one else wants to go down the tepid rabbit hole with you.

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And gee. It’s such a huge shock that a compact CUV sold more than a much larger, and much more expensive, mid-size CUV that spent most of its life sold along side a similar size (Explorer) CUV that got more attention from its parent company.

 

Seriously Blu. If you’re going to try and insult me, then you are going to have to do better than that. I have never bought a car or truck based off of how many of them sold. If you want to go that route, go by yourself a Corolla or a RAV-4. They both come with your favorite transmission, after all.

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On 2/20/2021 at 9:42 AM, oldshurst442 said:

But...aside from price, whether EV or ICE, the Bolt, Rogue, Trax, KONA ICE or EV...all stack up nicely to each other to be compared.  They are NATURAL competitors.  

What's hilarious to me is this:  it was not too many munts ago, I was pointing out that gm considers the Bolt a crossover.  I was heckled up one side and down the other over it.  I even provided screen shots of gm's online order guide, showing it grouped with Chevy trucks on that gm site.  "IT'S A TALL HATCHBACK!!!" I heard it over and over again.

 

NOW, what do you know... when the agenda calls for it, somehow the Bolt is a NATURAL COMPETITOR to the Rogue, Trax, and Kona.  Something stinks in Norway.  And Quebec.

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5 hours ago, ocnblu said:

What's hilarious to me is this:  it was not too many munts ago, I was pointing out that gm considers the Bolt a crossover.  I was heckled up one side and down the other over it.  I even provided screen shots of gm's online order guide, showing it grouped with Chevy trucks on that gm site.  "IT'S A TALL HATCHBACK!!!" I heard it over and over again.

 

NOW, what do you know... when the agenda calls for it, somehow the Bolt is a NATURAL COMPETITOR to the Rogue, Trax, and Kona.  Something stinks in Norway.  And Quebec.

Well, for 2022 they are splitting the Bolt into 2 models--the EUV that is the CUV and the regular EV that is the tall hatchback.  

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20 hours ago, ocnblu said:

What's hilarious to me is this:  it was not too many munts ago, I was pointing out that gm considers the Bolt a crossover.  I was heckled up one side and down the other over it.  I even provided screen shots of gm's online order guide, showing it grouped with Chevy trucks on that gm site.  "IT'S A TALL HATCHBACK!!!" I heard it over and over again.

 

NOW, what do you know... when the agenda calls for it, somehow the Bolt is a NATURAL COMPETITOR to the Rogue, Trax, and Kona.  Something stinks in Norway.  And Quebec.

What’s hilarious is you ignoring the “EUV” and “FWD” part of most of those comparisons (on this thread) but by all means, keep crying about it. Also ignored is YOUR INITIAL comment about EV transmissions that started this in the first place. Furthermore, only Olds is making this claim here so now you are attempting to conflate that with what happened months ago. I, personally, do not agree with Olds assessment that the standard Bolt can be compared to CUVs and my initial comparison here was about the transmission and transmission alone so stop conflating the two. The EUV Bolt is another matter entirely though, for obvious reasons. Again, just more crying on your part because no one agreed with your Nissan humping act here.

 

You also ignored empirical evidence to the contrary back then (like how not ONE sales sticker called it a CUV but in fact, a “wagon” and was never not once marketed to customers as a “CUV”) but hey, your “agenda” is the only one that matters here right?

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On 2/21/2021 at 9:45 AM, ocnblu said:

The world (except for Bronco) is running out of RWD/4WD BOF authenticity.  Everything's going to crap if you haven't noticed, and it is going to get worse.  The original intent of the thread was to post some new product news.  Look where it is now.

Agree with you here. 

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On 2/18/2021 at 3:38 PM, Drew Dowdell said:

Ocnblu said: Reactions are hilarious considering they come from a crew of ppl who find EV redeemable in any way, shape or form.

While you downvoted my post above about this being of your own making, you obviously ignored the facts. Your first response to everyone on this thread (which must have been deleted because I had to pull this from a reply to you) you tried to immediately make it personal by attacking the responses of others who did not care for the Rogue Sport and you even brought EVs into the discussion. Those pesky facts though.

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If Nissan wanted to actually take a step forward with the Rogue (or Rogue Sport) they would find a way to put the 9-speed, from the upcoming Pathfinder (which finally ditches the CVT), in it. Oh and about 19 more horses on the larger Rogue. 200HP plus a nicely tuned 9-speed would do wonders for it.

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On 2/18/2021 at 6:23 PM, David said:

Bolt, Bolt EUV, and so many other better EV CUVs. :D 

But then you already knew that answer and were being rhetorical! :P

Surreal:  It was David, as ever, who dragged EV into this thread.

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27 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

Surreal:  It was David, as ever, who dragged EV into this thread.

Cry me a river. You still contributed to it and made the above remark about EV fans before David said his piece. You really need to pay better attention instead of trying to backpedal your way out of it and ignore your part in this. And you conveniently left out the question you asked, that led to his response. 
 

And what, pray tell, would you suggest

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