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  2. Worst noise offense is Harley-Davidson bikes and just about every 4 banger out there where some idiot puts a fart can on it and so the auto barely moves and yet makes a ton of noise causing ear discomfort. Do not get me wrong, the growl of my SS V8 6.0 Liters is sweet and I love it, but most times, most people want a silent auto to get to and from work or errands and would rather listen to a audio book or music or chat with their friends.
  3. 1% of the new car market is 170K buyers. With all the aftermarket exhaust & mufflers available, and the factory tuning options/efforts done by OEMs, I'm confident 'those that care how it sounds' is far greater than 1%. Seems every amateur new car review vid takes a moment to document exhaust note, too.
  4. 1970's all over again, now where is that Disco Ball and bell bottom pants.
  5. Ram News: Spying: Ram 1500 Sporting A Split Tailgate?

    If/when I load into a pickup, I always place the item on the tailgate, then (the 1% of the time I have to put myself in the bed too) I climb into the bed. No way would I attempt to climb the Ford Man Step carrying a large box; easier the other way. Just brought a grandfather clock to my house Friday, in my pick-up bed. No reason to get into the bed to load/unload.
  6. Oh good grief. You are missing the bigger point here. Regardless of what I like, 99.8% of drivers out there don’t give two $h!s how loud a car is and would rather opt for quiet comfort in this age of loudness (and no I am not talking about just cars here). As such, making an argument about the lack of a V8 growl is not enough to dismiss the many benefits of an EV. It’s that simple. And most four bangers are not worth listening to unless your into weed eater sounds.
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  8. It's not weak. Ford makes fake noises in the F150 and the Focus ST/Mustang 2.3 get an enhancement which takes the intake noise and just makes it louder. Nothing fake about the cars. F150 is but I don't really care as that's not even what I'm talking about nor were those other two as my examples were definitely thunderous V8s. But I do love the intake side of things on a 4 pot. Little 4-bangers have a great intake noise. Vehicles that sound deaden the engine are cars that an EV would suit perfectly. I'm not arguing that aspect at all. You don't like the sound of exhaust on any vehicle? What your favorite V8 drives past you you don't get excited? There isn't a car that could drive past you at full tilt where there may be a supercharger whining as it comes towards you then a screaming V8 exhaust note as it passes like a LS/LT, Hemi, Voodoo?
  9. It is a weak excuse given that even ICE cars like the Mustang have sound replicators blaring through your stereo speakers because the engines are so throroughly sound deadened. It’s also weak because the same people who were saying this drove little four banger cars. These days whenever I hear that racket in a parking lot (or down the street from my house on a daily basis), I just wish they’d shut the hell up. Exactly and the 1% does not nor has it ever dictated advancements like this and it’s not going to start today.
  10. I can't think of the last Honda I've ridden in...maybe be a Pilot from about 2007. Are Hondas particularly noisy? Maybe it's part of getting older, but I really appreciate smooth and quiet in a vehicle more than noisy...
  11. GMC had a bit of a surprise for the Dubai International Motor Show with the Desert Fox Middle East truck concept. De https://t.co/ZyOFRMSHvH

  12. Maybe only 1% of drivers care what the engine sounds like...99% of drivers just want it to work and the noise to not intrude on the sound system. More work needs to be done on quieting HVAC fans IMO...the loud noise of AC or heat on full gets old in many cars.. I'm all for maximizing sound deadening--I hate when automakers don't put enough sound deadening with the excuse of saving weight or saving cost.
  13. The striping and color gives it a very 70s vibe..
  14. GMC had a bit of a surprise for the Dubai International Motor Show with the Desert Fox Middle East truck concept. Desert Fox was a special package available on the 1977 GMC C/K 1500 pickup that featured a tan (Buckskin) exterior color with color stripes running along the sides and hood. The package also featured a brush guard, bed mounted sports bar, additional lights, and tan colored wheels. This package was also available for the Jimmy SUV. This Sierra 1500-based concept brings this package into the modern era with the same paint color and stripe layout. It also comes outfitted with some off-road goodies such as an off-road bumper with a winch, beadlock wheels wrapped in desert-terrain tires, bed-mounted sports bar with LED lights, skid plates, and a new exhaust system. No mention of a powertrain but we're thinking it could the 5.3L V8. Source: Car and Driver View full article
  15. GMC had a bit of a surprise for the Dubai International Motor Show with the Desert Fox Middle East truck concept. Desert Fox was a special package available on the 1977 GMC C/K 1500 pickup that featured a tan (Buckskin) exterior color with color stripes running along the sides and hood. The package also featured a brush guard, bed mounted sports bar, additional lights, and tan colored wheels. This package was also available for the Jimmy SUV. This Sierra 1500-based concept brings this package into the modern era with the same paint color and stripe layout. It also comes outfitted with some off-road goodies such as an off-road bumper with a winch, beadlock wheels wrapped in desert-terrain tires, bed-mounted sports bar with LED lights, skid plates, and a new exhaust system. No mention of a powertrain but we're thinking it could the 5.3L V8. Source: Car and Driver
  16. It isn't a "weak excuse" in my book. Exhaust note, intake note and the sound of an engine pulling from 1000rpm to redline is exhilerating and a silent EV or one that sounds like one that dfelt posted just doesn't do the same thing. They may be wicked and insanely quick but they don't give off the same feeling that the rumble of a cammed LS/LT engine does. Ever walk through a parking lot minding your own business and you hear some nasty muscle car pull in just loping around at idle with a cam that sound like it could die? Or go to the NHRA Top fuel events where you feel the cars go past in your chest and you need ear protection because they're just that damn loud? Yeah, I get that the silence of EVs have their place and they will be phenomenal daily drivers but they will always be lacking in the noise and literal vibration department. NVH will be too good in them. You can make them sound like anything with the correct sound system! Maybe I could get a cammed small block sound with an EV.. I just might need a sub woofer somewhere on the exterior..
  17. Kia News: 2018 Kia Stinger to Begin At $32,800, GT At $39,200

    The Stinger sounds like a fun car, some spicy kimchi and bi bim bop, with currywurst.
  18. Can I get one that sounds like a Quad-4 about 10,000 miles overdue for an oil change? Or one that sounds like a steam engine.
  19. @ccap41—Care to explain the problem with my last post? I have literally heard those words said by folks who hate EVs (not just here) so I’m curious as to rationale here.
  20. Kia News: 2018 Kia Stinger to Begin At $32,800, GT At $39,200

    It would make it affordable to me at 32 rather than 39K.
  21. LoL...or have it play the Batman uale uale meme clip audio...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06kXXJUddHQ
  22. Could you imagine hackers hacking the noises for that and when you stomp on the go-pedal you get "holla back girl".
  23. Kia News: 2018 Kia Stinger to Begin At $32,800, GT At $39,200

    Be interesting to see how it does in this day and age or people changing from cars to CUVs and from ICE to EV/Hybrids. I think it will hit the right note, but just not sure how many will buy.
  24. ..and Detroit's response with Generic Detroit Appliances--like the J-body, N-body, etc., K-cars, etc...forgettable excrement... I'm sure they can tune them to make loud noises.. I'm sure eventually EVs will have tunable soundtracks so you can customize them...make them sound like a Cat diesel or F1 v10 under full throttle, for instance...or how cool would it be to make your Tesla sound like an old beater with a bad lifter and blown muffler?
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