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  2. GM News: GM's CAMI Assembly Goes On Strike

    Agree with drew here..either lordstown or d-ham would have been my choice...
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  4. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    Pick a goal post and stick with it. You're all over the map SMK! We get it, you think that no matter what GM does, Mercedes does it better, and you'll make up every excuse or strawman argument in the book when you're shown to be wrong.
  5. Would like to see how would they improve the truck parts and accessories to make it more impressive.
  6. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    I don't know how many BMW has, but the 7-seires platform is shared with Rolls, and a cut down version is used for the 5-series. Plus their inline 4 and inline six share a ton of parts. Mercedes has the MFA platform for A-class/B-class, which is also shared with Renault and the Infiniti QX-whatever the small one is. The MRA platform is under the C-class, GLC, E-class and S-class, the GLE/GLS are on another platform, G-wagen on a platform, SL, SLC and AMG GT are each on their own platform, but SLC is dying and SL and GT I think are merging to one platform in the next gen. They also are switching to inline six because it will share 70% of the parts with the inline 4. The Mercedes V12 is about a $60,000 option over an AMG V8 car, I would say the profit margin is sick on those. I think every VW, Audi, and Bentley share one platform. Well maybe not, but the VW Atlas full size SUV is built on a Golf platform. And that is true, I am not making that up.
  7. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    How many platforms are in the German lineups? Is the 3/4 Series on one? C Class on one? Or do those share platforms with the 5/6 and E Class? I honestly don't know. How many of those V12's have ever been sold? I doubt they are selling THAT many S65's and G65's. It's just an old engine now. That was probably the only way they could justify making it. Make sure they use it for 10 years.
  8. September Car Spotters Thread

    Given the new Ford super duty, I have no problem with this. Not a Ford guy, but the current crop of Ford trucks could induce a near religious level of conversion real quick. I once flat towed 12,000 lbs with a four cylinder S 10...very slowly...but anything is possible.
  9. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    No doubt GM has massive economies of scale on front drive. On rear drive they have Camaro/ATS/CTS on one chassis and CT6 on another. That isn't a lot of volume on those platforms. Sure they can share the transmission with the pickups, but the 3.6 is outclassed by Cadillac's competition so that leaves them with turbo V6s that get criticized in a lot of reviews and no V8, because there is no volume to justify a Cadillac only V8, let alone a V12 or hybrid drivetrain. Mercedes might build B-class taxis but they build $150k sports cars and S-class sedans and $240k V12 G-wagens. They have the top end, Buick and even Cadillac don't have that high end. Although I would love to see Cadillac make a $150,000 car, at this point I don't even care if it is coupe, sedan, or SUV, just do something.
  10. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    Actually you will not see me defending that once. I am pointing out sales and how you keep moving the bar to suit your argument. Big difference there because I have been very clear about my disdain for CUVs on this site. Btw, that very same argument can be applied to you in reverse. And in yet another bar move, you attempt to compare mainstream brand Chevy to luxury maker Mercedes. I have no words for the pure grade A bull$h! fallacy of that "argument".
  11. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    VW outsells Buick in China, so what? Buick doesn't sell their cars at Mercedes price point in China, or here. No bar has been moved. I made a Cadillac vs Lexus vs Mercedes comparison. If Buick was a luxury brand, GM wouldn't need Cadillac, but Cadillac is still here, because they need a luxury brand.
  12. Random Thoughts Thread

    GMC Safari with Dutch Doors would be cool to have on CUV's.
  13. Random Thoughts Thread

    Crazy Town forcing guy to sell auto collection. Some pretty cool cars including a Buick with a Straight 8 engine. http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/classic-cars/a-michigan-town-is-forcing-this-man-to-sell-20-old-cars-off-his-property-every-month/ar-AAs9snb?li=BBnb7Kz#image=AAs9snb_3|3 I think GM needs to bring back what was on the full size vans. Tilt up glass with Mini Stage Coach doors.
  14. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    So front wheel drive is bad for sedans, but good for crossovers? You seem to hate on Mercedes front drive entry level car, but defend Cadillac's move to use it in mid-size crossover. Personally I wouldn't even consider a front drive car, but I won't consider buying a CLA/GLA either. The market in the $30-40k space doesn't care though as most buyers don't notice the difference. Chevy makes the Spark and Sonic, does that somehow hurt the Corvette and make it crap because the Sonic is a 138 hp front driver? Mercedes makes like 20 models with a 500+ hp V8/V12 if they make 2 with a 208 hp fwd 4-cyldinder I don't think it a big deal.
  15. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    ATS and CTS are on the same platform. Transmissions, engines, shared up and down the line... you can get the same powertrain ATS, CTS, CT6. The transmission is the 8L45 which is a light duty version of the 8L90 which is used in all of the 1500 series trucks, and Canyonado , plus the ATS-V and CTS-V. The 2.0T is used in lots of stuff, so is the 3.6. The only engines that haven't been borrowed from Cadillac yet are the 3.0T and 3.6T. The AWD system in the XT5 is the same twin-clutch system in the Lacrosse and Acadia All-Terrain, it's made by a third party, and also used in the Focus RS plus a few other brands, no worries about economies of scale there. Your prediction that FWD based crossovers will die off is wrong. Mercedes, BMW, and Infiniti just added to the count. As @surreal1272 warned you, be careful where you move those goalposts to. Mercedes builds vinyl laden taxis and for years built silly little things like the A-Class and B-Class.
  16. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    First bar move (all of this is paraphrased btw) "Mercedes outsells Cadillac in China" responded with "Buick outsells them both by light years" Second bar move "Well FWD CUVs will phase out and Benz will rule all" and "Buick is not luxury" (even though their cars get compared and cross shopped with MBs FWD offerings) Just kick the damn bar over already and be done with it.
  17. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    Oh right, I forgot that Buick is a luxury brand even though the $16,700 Excelle and $20,600 Verano where 547,000 of Buicks 1.2 million Chinese market sales came from. By that measure, the VW Jetta is a luxury car too.
  18. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    A bit cheaper and outsells the others by mere light years. Yeah, completely comparable. And I don't care about "once upon a time". And big words on FWD vehicles when Benz is increasing their FWD sedan stable.
  19. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    Envision is a bit cheaper than a GLC or Cadillac. But I brought it up because of economies of scale. Mercedes has plenty of economies of scale. Once upon a time the Deville outsold the E-class and C-class combined in the USA, and in time the front drive luxury sedans have basically died off. One day these front drive luxury crossovers will fall too, except maybe for the sub $45k market, they'll hold on, but in the end the rear drive always wins in luxury. Speaking of economies of scale, if Cadillacs crossovers are all front wheel drive, where do they get economies of scale on rear drive cars? The Camaro is a shrinking market, this 3-series segment has a dozen entries in it, and the mid-size luxury sedan segment is shrinking.
  20. Random Thoughts Thread

    Our CR-V has it. The big GM SUVs have it too Ironically, the EcoSport debuted before the Trax, just not in the US. It was a Euro only model. The new XC90 and XC60 do not
  21. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    GM has two luxury brands in China... GM still outsells Mercedes there. I'm talking about the economies of scale of the 3.6 V6, CUE (most of the underlying programming is identical to Mylink and IntelliLink), transmissions and stuff. That GM 8-speed and 9-speed are going into everything. A lot of the innards that drivers never see are shared with 3 other crossovers with more to come.
  22. Suzuki delays U.S. launch of the Swift

    maybe they'll make an electric one for you too. LOL electric plus floating roof
  23. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    And again moving the bar. We were not talking about Europe. We are talking about here and the XT5 is spanking Benz on that front. I know it's a hard pill to swallow but you have to swallow it nonetheless and stop trying to move the argument to suit your argument. And the Buick Envision outsells all three of those combined. That's why you have to be careful moving that bar around like you do.
  24. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    the same first two things i thought. Yes, and to be honest I think Cadillac should just exit this market in the US and consider putting all resources into the CTS size / CT5 replacement. edit, there is still a downmarkey vibe here. Like this is a car the subprime lenders created to get people into who would want a BMW 3 and will never get approved for. also, there is not just an Infiniti vibe here, but an Alfa Romeo vibe to it as well.
  25. GM News: GM's CAMI Assembly Goes On Strike

    This is one of the most sensible things about any topic i have heard in a long long time
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  27. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    The RX and XT5 are mid-size at small price. If an RX was $56k base like the similarly sized BMW X5, Lexus RX sales would be in the dump, like the GX and LX are. For a $35-45k crossover front wheel drive is fine because you don't have more than 300 hp in any of them, and you have awd to route it around and the people buying them don't care about performance. When you go north of $50k and start going after buyers that want more power, more performance you need rear wheel drive. As far as economies of scale go, Mercedes sells about 9,000 GLC a month in Europe, Cadillac sold 761 total cars in Europe last year and Lexus whole brand sales were 44,287. In China XT5 has sold 34,116 units YTD through July, Lexus RX sold 17,023 and GLC has sold 57,670. Oh, no, GLC outsells XT5 and RX combined!
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