surreal1272

There will be initial bump, sure but long term it will be niche at best (as far as full size pick ups go). All the pros being an EV (although they, once again, lied about the range and price) are being killed by the fact that it is half baked (at best) as an actual pick up. Countless reviews all say the same thing about it. Oh and haven't seen one here yet but plenty of Model Ys and 3s.

Nice upgrades on the powertrain and interior but that exterior has a profile that only Ray Charles could love. Just ugly IMO.

The only pics I have of the interior of any of mine. This was taken in 2008, about four months after I moved to AZ and then had to sell it (was not made for the off road driving to my job at the time lol). Of course, like about every car I have owned, I swapped the factory stereo out. Had a really nice Panasonic head unit plus I had a six piece set of Infinity Kappa Speakers and one 10" JL Audio W6 Subwoofer (powered by a Directed D mono block amp) in the car. Sounded so damn good in there and I wanted to pull the speakers before I sold it but they were required to stay in for me to make the sale lol. Such is life sometimes.

Close. He is looking for a matching pair of roller skates.

Such fun with AWD but that and the turbo are why I never owned one. I got my first speeding ticket in an '81 Chevette. I would have lost my license in a month with either variation of the turbo AWD models. Yeah, those were definitely not for anyone taller than myself and I'm 5'10". You would need a shoehorn and KY jelly to get in and out of those lol.

Had three iterations of it. (1) 1993 Plymouth Laser (first car that was in my name) purchased used in '95, (1) Eagle Talon ESi 5 Spd Manual purchased slightly used in '96 (traded the Laser for it) and then another Talon ESi in 2005 (also 5 Spd manual). Sadly not one AWD TSi in the driveway but I have driven a few and they are sneaky loads of fun!

Thanks for reminding me. I should have noted that the 5 door hatch is what we got here but my original point still stands regarding no set length standard between wagons and their sedan counterparts.

You're missing my point though which is there is no set standard between sedans and wagons where dimensions are concerned. Other examples: The Buick Regal Tour X is almost 4 inches longer than its sedan counterpart. The last Acura TSX Wagon was almost 4 inches longer than its sedan counterpart as well.

That's not always the case though. The Dodge Charger was almost 4 inches longer than the Magnum while the Cadillac CTS Wagon is about an inch longer than the sedan.

For reference about the headrest trim, the 2024 Escalade-V, complete with metal (I'm assuming aluminum) speaker grill inserts on both sides of the headrest.

Those "metal pieces" are very thin pieces of aluminum which makes it no more of a hazard than hard grade plastics. And how EXACTLY would someone hit their head on an obviously recessed piece of aluminum? This basic design is present in a lot of premium and sporty cars and SUVs these days. It's also only available in the Autograph trim. "Old" design is purely subjective as well. I'm not saying it's a beauty queen but it most certainly does not look "old". It has the same basic profile as the outgoing model but, again, that is common is every large SUV (See the damn near identical profiles of the last two Gen GM full size models as one example). I get what you're trying to say here but it seems more like nitpicking given the examples provided. IMO, it's an upgrade in every way over the outgoing model and that is the simple goal here.

I honestly dig the look and this will be a far more important car for Rivian than the R2 just because of the potential price point alone (assuming, again, a reasonable price point can be had here). Like a few others have said though, no Apple CarPlay or Android Auto would be a deal killer for me.

Nice ride and a sweet spot size for a lot of folks but it most certainly will not start at $45K by the time it comes out in 2026. I am done putting stock into future prices put out by car companies because NOT ONE has actually come at the price promised.

Those and the Hyundai Ioniq5 all share a resemblance.