surreal1272

"He only points out problems from 40 years ago"-Anonymous poster Some replies, though, practically writes themselves. https://www.yahoo.com/autos/gm-issues-stop-sale-silverado-171436319.html Figure it out GM.

"GM has a plan"-Every pro GM post I have seen over the last three or four years And that plan, apparently, is to continue to shoot themselves in the foot after three or four years of hype over the Ultium platform, low entry prices, and sales projections for EVs. Just cannot believe how bad they and Ford are screwing this up right now, yet at the same time I should have half expected it. History does not lie but it does have a nasty habit of repeating itself.

The kicker though is that can’t have the same type of weak powertrain under the hood, like the TSX Wagon a decade ago.

And that's all I will say about that, after watching a month of posts of me being personally called out and tagged even after asking not be, respectfully. ____________________________ About the TLX, it checks a lot of boxes but the biggest "unchecked" box is the fact that it is FWD. Apparently it doesn't matter that is offered in AWD (although it should be offered in lower spec models) and I think that logic is asinine. I have driven quite a few FWD based AWD vehicles and their RWD competition that also offers AWD. Very few if any real driving differences IMO and I would wager most folks wouldn't;t notice much a difference either. In so many cases, saying a car is "FWD" is basically like calling a Station Wagon in the U.S. It is the Scarlet letter of this country and it makes zero sense for 95% of the buying public out there to even care what the engine orientation is. Just my two cents on it. Overall, I actually like this gen TLX. Now if they would just sell a TLX SH-AWD Wagon here, that would be nice mmmkay.

On top of that, the only way you get close to 500 miles of range (470, to be exact), is to add a separate extended battery pack that sits where? In the bed of an already compromised truck bed. But I am certain it will still be a hit despite the lies about it on literally every front.💀

And speaking of fanboy logic, I could have sworn there was someone here touting the endless virtues of the upcoming Cybertruck and the phenomenal range it will have. Maybe they can explain this little tidbit I just came across (from it's release yesterday). "It remains to be seen how towing will affect the estimated driving ranges quoted by Tesla for the various Cybertruck models. The forthcoming $60,990 rear-drive base model is estimated to go 250 miles per charge and get from zero to 60 mph in 6.5 seconds. All-wheel-drive models are claimed to go 340 miles per charge and reach 60 mph in 4.1 seconds, while the Cyberbeast is said to reach 60 mph in 2.6 seconds (on a prepped surface, without a rollout) and go 320 miles per charge." Source: https://www.motortrend.com/news/2024-tesla-cybertruck-first-look-review/ This numbers are pretty much dead even with the Ford Lightning, with a higher starting price to boot. So much for that vaunted Tesla hype.

Fanboy Tactics 101: When proven wrong, resort to deflection, sprinkle some projection and personal attacks, and outright ignore all facts that are contrary to their narrative. Then wash, rinse, repeat and act like none the previous events happened when they start spreading the same FUD next time. Never has that been more true than in the last 48 hours here.

Your complete inability to read between the lines is unbelievable. Reducing production goals by a country mile is, in effect, a reduction in funding. You are attempting to sugarcoat their situation by inferring that they are okay when they are not, currently. Not saying they don’t eventually reach their goals and see real fruits from their labor but what you are saying here is nothing more than speculation to counter the less than rosy picture painted here.

And you have the nerve to call me a “fan boi” with that candy coated post.

I don't know if these pics qualify as "beautiful" but this was back in '88 or '89, when my dad was in the middle of setting his 914 up for a new paint job, which included painting the black targa top and surrounding trim white to match the rest of the car. I will have to hunt for the "after" pics the next time I am at his house but I came across these and it really took me back.

Either you have dementia or you need to come up with better material. You posted that exact article just over a month ago. But hey, what do I know? I’m just pointing out facts. Slight correction. It’s not the exact same article but the last article repeats 80% of what was already in the previous article so my core point stands. Your troll post was obvious and of course, the favored Canadian Lemming bit on it because well…who really cares, but I would run out of space on the this if I responded in kind with all the issues GM has faced just since 2000. Again, for the blind folks in the back, I am not touting Toyota or propping them up. They have had their fair share of screw ups and lemons and their EVs are a joke but it is still a FRACTION of what has happened to GM during the same time period that @David sourced for Toyota. It’s not even close and there is literally mountains of data to back this up but I’m guessing GM fans suffering from the Mandela Effect will never see it that way. To them, I say “tough s***”. Facts are still facts even if you don’t want to agree with them.

Great job at turning this site into just another trolling cesspool @David. Blu would be proud.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/gm-recalls-1-million-suvs-over-defect-that-could-cause-air-bag-to-rupture/ And who can forget this little gem… https://www.csmonitor.com/Business/In-Gear/2014/0520/GM-recall-General-Motors-adds-2.4-million-vehicles-to-recall?cmpid=mkt:ggl:dsa-np&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_KqbyrbfggMV1TjUAR388gXjEAMYASAAEgLDaPD_BwE And I’m out. Enjoy your weekend folks, except for the butthurt A hole up north. Enjoy the misery you’ve kept as company all these years.

Either you have dementia or you need to come up with better material. You posted that exact article just over a month ago. But hey, what do I know? I’m just pointing out facts. And to the lunatic who thinks his opinion means Jack squat, no it’s not Johnny Cash. It’s just little ole me sitting by the morning fire… Leave my name out of any future discussions. It’s that simple lunatic.

You are a premium subscriber so you don't get all the pop ups I do. Not just the ad after the first page clock. It's the constant video pop up that come up and on a mobile device, the "x" (to close) button is so small that you will click on the video 9 times out of 10. The desktop version is much more manageable in this regard but I am all but done with using the site on my phone.

I have to say that the mobile version of this site has become more unusable due to the pop up ads and videos. I get the reason for the ads but the execution of them takes away from the usability.

And speaking of “taken out of context”, while you focused my calling you out for the “NOT” remark, you conveniently skipped over my very first sentence so let me refresh your memory. “This isn't news to anyone in the last few years. Hyundai and Kia have made sure of that, along with Porsche and a few others.” The point there was that the “news” you passed along has been known by everyone here for the last few years, hence my statement about you seeking yet another “gotcha” moment against Tesla. But sure, I’m trolling lol.

Stop overanalyzing my statement about your obvious bias. There is no trolling on my part at all. I called you out on your obvious attempt to throw in your bias against Tesla and now you are trying deflect and flip it on me like somehow I’m the issue. That’s some rich $h! David and I’m not buying it. You said what you said and I’m not the only one who saw through it so save the trolling accusation for your next mirror talk. But I was trolling for calling him out lol. FFS. The narrow focus was made by your “NOT” emphasis but whatever you do, don’t actually admit to $h!. That’s the M.O. around here lately. No one has to admit to anything as long as they can deflect it onto others. Thanks for proving that.

You most certainly did put more than "nothing" into that. Referring the above in bold: "Tesla is NOT the leader." Those are your exact words. Emphasizing with "NOT" is not reporting. That is interjecting opinion, an opinion that has obvious roots in past bias against Tesla. Imagine if ICE vehicles were sold the same way. Brand A will fill up with gas faster than brand B because Brand A is luxury while Brand B is not. I do not like this tactic being used by automakers right now and I promise you, that is a HUGE detriment to potential buyers. Add to that, it just leads to frustration and confusion on potential buyer's part.

Don’t know why you’re acting “confused” David. You know exactly what I’m talking about.

This isn't news to anyone in the last few years. Hyundai and Kia have made sure of that, along with Porsche and a few others. I cannot stand Tesla or Musk but once again, you put your bias and slant into this and as ccap pointed out, where Tesla leads by a mile is their charger network. It's not even debatable but go ahead and have yet another "gotcha" moment by posting stuff that we already knew and have known for a while now.

It's called "trickle down sales" and it will bite them in the ass if they continue to do it while others don't but hey, GM right?

Outside of the long outdated 4 Runner, all of their SUVs and trucks have gone hybrid or have it as an option but according to David, that is still outdated tech.

Agreed on the 3.4L sales prospects but shhhh, he is not supposed to acknowledge that. Only old $h! from Toyota matters here. Didn't you know?

Yeah, Gm is so confident in their future EV product lineup, that they are pushing sales of their trucks out 10-12 years but sure @David, they would do fine without them lol. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/gm-could-reap-billions-by-building-combustion-trucks-suvs-through-2035-2023-06-13/