A Horse With No Name

That's a good way to put it, Satty. GM could have and should have done so much better than the Ion. Chris/66

I would be interested to check one out "in the flesh" to see the interior. Looked at the Solstice interior again, I like how it is simple and functional. But this Z car interior is starting to grow on me as well. Yes, the design works, I could go for a little different treatment right at the front. The blue color is wonderful, though. Chris/66

It is so hard to find good journalism anymore. Honestly, if it's not the Economist of the BBC, I am afraid to trust anything. Chris

But fair wages shouldn't be $12 an hour and a temporary contract. If we want good cars we need good people. We've let eleventy billion good people go from GM, from line guys to engeneers to sylists to management. We need to keep what we have left. Chris

Exactly. They work and deserve to be compensated, just like the guys on the line building the cars. I think the biggest issue is jealousy. These gentlemen have the chops to run a multibillion dollar company and I think the rest of us are jealous of their ability and their pay. Chris

Actually, I would like to se what TTAC would say if GM is in a really good position in about 2 or 3 years. Chris

So what is GM's biggest modern flop...The Reatta perhaps? Chris

We just had a plant close in Dayton...things are going to get real ugly in the Buckeye state unless things change real fast... Chris

Here is what they think of it over on Miata net. Far from 100% positive, even from the Mazda crowd. http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=307813 Chris

Go get a Starbucks, then. Seriously, I think it must be tough being a gay man and trying to find a serious long term relationship. Chris

Driving this and beeing seen in it would be like getting stabbed in the eye AND shot in the nuts at the same time. Chris

I could handle that 88 Olds Ragtop in my garage... Chris

+ 1 on the soul thing... Chris

I would tend to agree with you CSpec, about the interior. Kinda hoping for a response from DF. Chris

They can afford to buy them...but will they? Chris

I prefer them slightly smaller and a little less firm myself, but hers will do. Chris

Mary Louise parker has one hell of an ass, and IIRC she hasn't been exactly afraid to show it off in the buff. Chris

All I ask 'Biz is that we continue research on a peer reviewed scientific basis with an open mind. If global warming is real, then great we change the way we live and get on with it. If Global warming is not real, well, then, there is a lot we don't know about the earth and we are still learning. If global warming is real and it is as bad as some people say that it is you and your Boyfriend can tan under a palm tree in toronto in December. Chris

BMW for one has a much smaller market to support here in the US. Most of their business is overseas. Chris

Exactly. The markets we have right now are anything but fair and free. Chris

It's a shrinking market, and unless the market improves in the next year or two we are going to loose some players, both import and domestic. Chris

Your not the only one. And here is the thing...once our domestic auto industry is gone, who is to say that the import brands will leave their plants here? Honda is allready pulling its motorcyclew plant from Ohio, and sending it back to Japan. What is keeping them from pulling Civic and Accord production if there is no domestic competion? Chris

I could handle some sun right now. Today in crappy Ohio weather there was an old air cooled 911 running around on four Hoosier auto-x or road race type tires. Must have been a real handful. Chris

Exactly. But no more oil is being made in the ground, so we need to work on alternates now. I like the Volt-I hope it does well. Be interesting to see, though... Chris

More than being worried about climate change, I think we should be worried about the loss of wildlife habitat and rainforests. Interesting read, though. Chris