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Ugh, was checking out more details. Can you believe, there is no option for a telescopic steering wheel? Just a manual tilt. They improved their standard features, but for a car at this price range, I would expect a few more things standard, like telescopic steering wheels, a 6-cd changer, etc. Not impressed.

Only as a CXS? That's absurd. Just make the damn colors available on each trim and be done with it. The fact that they were straying away from the two choices of neutral/gray was such a big deal for me as I was getting bored with those. But giving restraints towards which trims can have whichever colors... almost as bad.

If I remember correctly, the 2005 Deville had a special edition in which it had a grayish-blue interior treatment--seats included. When I read about "tuxedo blue", I naturally assumed it would be this way in the Lucerne. Oh, and ROCK ON about the heated woodgrain steering wheel! :)

Well, I feel Buick should have 3 sedans. Period. I just don't like them having choice a or choice b for sedans. It's like "do you want a car with all? Or do you want a car with practically nothing?" I think the Lucerne would make a great extry lux car, which ranges to 40, and then they should have a luxury car that goes from 40-52K. IMHO.

Cananopie, I totally agree with your statement. Buick needs more. For a while now I've been feeling that Buick is hiding something from us--and I'm hoping that's the case. I just have been sitting on this hope, thinking that there will be some phenominal sedan that will blow us away, make the Lucerne look like a joke in comparison, and show all the glory that Buick once was, and should be again. I'm talking flagship here. I'm talking RWD, 6-speed auto, silent, loaded with features--and no copping out w/ things like 1 auto window down, or cloth base or manual climate control base, etc. Power, 300-350hp. Style. Flair. Room--more room--larger, FULL-SIZE sedan, huge trunk that could hold a Focus in. Navigation. DVD entertainment available. Massaging rear seats. Heated/cooled cupholders. LED taillamps. Heated steering wheel. Rear auto climate controls. Surround sound. Woods/textures that totally blow peoples' minds. Leather that feels like butter to the touch. You get my point. Just bring it on!

Thanks Ven! Wow, the Corian is pretty amazing--there are so many choices. I would love to see some interesting textures/treatments in Buicks. Using a different type of treatment in the car is what sets a car aside from its competition, and makes it stand out. I know if I had a car with an interior treatment that was interesting, I would get a lot of friends to consider buying one. After all, who doesn't want something that is extremely reliable, high quality (hey, it's a Buick!), and looks cool? :)

LOVE the Roadmaster name! When I hear the name, I think of size, power, luxury and isolation :)

Okay, this might be flimsy to go on, but I was taking the Content Special Test in Italian for my Teacher's License, and there was an article I had to read regarding Alfa Romeo's return to the U.S. market... that it wasn't gone for good, but rather delayed. I believe I read something about a 2007-08 attempt? But now who knows if this is a fictional article. They usually don't put fictional things on the exam (except for the conversations and writing scenarios), and if it was really coming so soon (in 2 years), you think we'd hear more about it. If I find anything out, I'll let ya know :)

LOVE that steering wheel!

Caddy Sixteen with 2 V8's producing 800hp? By 2009? I'm not believing this one. Nor am I believing the Camaro base with a V8 engine for under 22,000. C'mon, if GM could do that, don't you think we'd have a little better pricing/specs for the cars out now?

Can you get some real pictures of it, inside and out? I'd like to see real-life pictures of the Rainier, not just the GM shots.

That's a shame to hear re: the 3800 performance. Granted it'd be a decent step up from my current engine, 3300 160hp V6, the car is bigger/heavier. I have just been feeling lately that the 160, although adequate has been subpar for my driving. I don't normally need a lot of power, but lately I've just been feeling like more would be a pleasure to have. I guess I really can't form my opinions until I drive the two engines in the LaCrosse, but still I feel like the 3.6 should have been standard... if Buick wants to go premium/luxury status, OHV engines just don't cut it well in today's market.

I don't like the idea of Terraza staying around for Buick; I think that's all wrong.

The moon is hysterical ;)

I didn't think the review was terrible. I mean, what can you expect from badge engineering? It's not ground-breaking. It's not new and exciting. It's not powerful. It's barely sporty. It's just there. The interior I feel is so beautiful--especially the beige color. I like this interior much more than the Equinox... and I feel this will be a steady seller for Pontiac. Again, nothing ground-breaking. He was fair with the review--he did say "they fixed most of the probs I had with the interior".

Empowah, great idea... it wouldn't cost much to offer like free oil changes for 1-2 years as well, and it's a wonderful little selling point. :)

I like the LaCrosse's interior, but I stand by my two comments I've said in the past: Need real wood, and need to jazz up the center stack. Way too much unused space. Could have done something a little nicer with the climate control so it's not just a mish-mash of buttons--could have put maybe a dial for each temp control.

Wow, Stace... I thought the Mustang was selling well!

I thought the current sedan was decent-looking, although I tend to like cars with conservative styling (*ahem, Buick, *cough*). Although the outside isn't so revolutionary, the inside is way behind something I'd want to look at. That giant tachometer behind the steering wheel, followed by a digital speedometer? Gimme one type or the other.

I have to say, I see TONS of Impalas on the roads... people buy them on Long Island big time. I'll be proud to see the refresh as abundant in a few months :)

Touchée :lol:

I'd be happy with the CXS trim name, as long as it provided a sportier equipment than is currently offered. I feel 240hp should be standard on the base, and they should throw a northstar in the CXS to output like 275hp. In the Lucerne, the Northstar should put out like 280-300hp. After all, the DTS will be getting more power in a couple of years (and they have an available engine of 291hp)

You have a point there... and I know two people with 2004 Priuseseses that have another excuse they bring up when I notice their fuel economy reads 43.8mpg: "Oh, well, we really bought it for the PZEV." Uh huh.

I couldn't find the vomit icon, so I'll have to settle for: :omfg: That interior is horrendous.

I have to say, for the base version (the last pic being a red Impala LS), that's a generous piece of chrome they used on the back which definitely gives the car a more-upscale appearance than its base competitors.