Iononic Boy

Why buy a 5 liter V10 for the same amount of money as a 7 liter V8 that makes the same power in a Corvette ZO6, and have enough 30 grand to buy a Buick Lucerene CXS with a 4.6 liter V8 good for 275 horses?

Why do people hate American cars?

We don't, but others are better and fit that person's personality. You get a Current buick (other than the beautiful enclave) and we know your 55 or older or Asian.

You get the LX, and your in the current century, or Asian.

Yes, this is their new mid-May campaign. The ad also plays a video clip.

Speaking of the video....wtf is the part with the V12 BIoTurbo????????????? what are they mustering up? SUPER Saturn on its way? I'M GONNA FREAK OUT!!!! ........... SORRY haha this is to funny...as I'm typing this...the commercial justcame on on tv. :AH-HA_wink:

HAHA no you guys, its the 2008 Mazda 323 4 door hatch! It sure does look like its from the the land of cheap labor.....lets hope the quality is more european than midwest american, since GM is now "Global".

Probably not more, but the energy inputs are considerable.  There is diesel fuel to run the tractors, electricity to power irrigation pups, and lots of petruleum to produce the fertilizer

I don't mean to be so negative.  It is great that we are discuuisng these things.  It is just that it is so much harder to do than people assume.  We can take little bites off the edges haer and there and the sooner the better.  Passive and active solar energy use can free some petroleum products from use in non automotive uses and make more fuel available for our cars.  Reduced vehicle weight and wind resistance as in the new Tahoes can help.  A return to lower speed limits as during the Carter years is necessary too. Diesel and/or direct ignition engines is doable. Finally I was kigging about dandelions.

Sorry but everyone will still speed. I do now, and I still would. Lowering the speed limit would not be a good solution. It didn't work back then, it won't work now. Making cars more efficient at any speed is a better answer. Also driver characterisitcs. I love the 10-20 mph up and down drivers. 60 one min 75 the next 62 ,79,67,71, pass, slow, speed up, cant follow a regular driving pattern. that I think wastes more gas braking and revving to gain speed then me going 80 the whole time. apparently the lady on the phone in her X5 that was all over the road on the way to work today hasnt discovered her cruise control yet.