Mr.Krinkle

That vid cheered me up. Thanks.

Cool, man. Take it easy youll probably be sore for a while. To a speedy and full.

Oldy but gotta laugh.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=16...=genre%3Acomedy

Actually, 3 plants on two continents, and in three countries are already being readied (in Holden's case already in production)for Zeta production. So your concerns are a non-issue.

Of course theyre not but I think you may have missed the point.

Wheels this big are already in motion but if you get a proposal by all means take it as far as you can.

Variety is the spice of life or something like that.

Just be mindful of crossing over into Buickman territory.

Wow. This is like one of those "If I were president for a day" things.

So, how much does it cost to retool these plants? What do you suggest we do in the meantime?

Are they really just dumb or having fun? Like people, living life... Maybe a combination there of.

http://www.clipjunkie.com/Ducks-on-an-Icy-River-vid2672.html

it looks like chargers chasing it....?

Looks like some of these.

Red Qvale Mangusta.

Kucinich looks kinda like a troll, but he is a really smart guy who is willing to talk straight since he knows he has no chance of winning. Paul and Kucinich are the two candidates who really intrigue me, but neither has a prayer.

And the candidates wont be chosen until we go through another 49 primaries and the two conventions, which are sometime this summer.

Hes got a hot wifey, too.

Hey, I placed that ad! :rotflmao:

No kidding, so whats the deal? Exit only kinda girl? Clogged up her shower drains?

I dont know but there better be a Pork Chop Tree somewhere in the mix. If not, better off not knowing.

One thing I am 99.9% sure there aint no 72 Virgins.

No comment, except to say that I now need to know nothing more about you to know where you're coming from on this, or any other topic.

Yea, you tell him Sonic!

Link: Fake Craigs List Ad--

"Men hungry for sex besieged a Brooklyn woman with phone calls after spotting a bogus ad on Craigslist that said she was looking to turn tricks to pay off Christmas debt

The callers were responding to the racy ad, which read: "I'm a real hottie looking to earn extra cash to pay off Christmas debt."

The data entry specialist had to change her phone number.

"I don't want to constantly look over my shoulder," she said.

O'Malley said she was further peeved when Craigslist would not help her locate the pervert."

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Theres lots of dirty stuff on the internet but I think this ranks right up there.

QUOTE(Chris_Doane @ Jan 3 2008, 03:49 PM)

For all the "trouble" this thread caused....it's now looking like it's coming true.

May 25 2006, 12:07 PM

I believe the HP wars are reaching their limits and peaks. The V8 engine is slowly becoming archaic in the passenger vehicle market for that very reason. Modern 4s and 6 have pushed vehicle performance to sports car territory of only a few years ago.

You can only go so fast to 60 mph or the ¼ mile. in real terms. The buff magazines might split hairs over 0 -to-60 times, but the average consumer will not.

For that very reason, the V8 for passenger vehicles may soon be phased out because it no longer matters.

Jan 3, 2008--Cadillac spokesman Kevin Smith said, "We've really seen the V-6 become the predominant engine in sales on the (2008) STS because it's so close in power to the V-8."

If so, you can thank the morons in D.C.

Or the millions of jackasses buying cars and trucks they dont need so they can go to the store for a pack of butts and a soda. or pop or watever the hell you want to call it.

Better than any words I can express I think this sums up the future of the V8.

Future Plans for the V8 as it stands today--Click

The fat lady has not sung, the show is not over...

Its really quite beautiful if you listen.

Click, Enjoy

Toyota Reports 2007 and December Sales

Toyota Dec. 2007 Sales Chart

TORRANCE, Calif., Jan. 3 /PRNewswire/ -- With 12 consecutive years of

record-breaking sales, Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A., Inc., today

reported best-ever year-end sales of 2,620,825 vehicles, up 2.7 percent

over 2006.

"Great products and value drive a volatile market and put the consumer

in the driver's seat," said TMS President Jim Lentz. "Toyota, Lexus and

Scion deliver on both."

Toyota Division recorded best-ever year-end sales of 2,291,648

vehicles, up 2.9 percent over the prior year. Lexus retained its position

as the best-selling luxury brand in America for the eighth consecutive

year, selling a best-ever total of 329,177 units in 2007, up 1.8 percent

over 2006. With overall sales of 130,181, the Scion line of vehicles

contributed to the record sales year.

TMS reported December sales results of 224,399, a decrease of 1.7

percent from the same period last year.

Toyota Division

Toyota Division reported December sales of 189,844 units. Toyota

Division passenger cars recorded December sales of 101,741 units, with

best-ever year-end sales of 1,313,651 units, up 2.7 percent over last year.

For the year, passenger-car sales were led by Camry, which posted annual

sales of 473,108, an increase of 5.2 percent. Corolla posted year-end sales

of 371,390. The Yaris subcompact reported year-end sales totaling 84,799,

up 20.2 percent over 2006 sales. Prius gas-electric hybrid mid-size sedan

reported sales of 14,212 units for a best-ever December and best-ever

year-end sales of 181,221 units, up 68.9 percent over 2006.

Toyota Division light trucks reported December sales of 88,103 units,

with best-ever year-end sales of 977,997, an increase of 3.2 percent over

2006. Light truck sales were led by the all-new Tundra with best-ever

year-end sales of 196,555, up 57.4 percent over the prior year. RAV4

compact sport utility vehicle reported best-ever year-end sales of 172,752,

up 13.2 percent over last year.

Scion reported December sales of 8,944 units. The Scion xB urban

utility vehicle recorded December sales of 3,785 units with year-end sales

totaling 45,834. The tC sports coupe reported December sales of 3,507 units

with year-end sales reaching 63,852 units.

Lexus Division

Lexus reported December sales of 34,555 units, down 7.2 percent from

the year-ago month. Lexus passenger cars reported December sales of 19,840

units and achieved best-ever year-end results of 200,334 units, up 9.1

percent over 2006.

Lexus passenger car sales were led by the ES 350 luxury sedan with

December sales of 8,005 units and best-ever year-end sales of 82,867, an

increase of 8.7 percent over 2006. The IS 250 and IS 350 luxury sport

sedans recorded combined best-ever December sales of 5,651 units and

combined best-ever year-end sales of 54,993 units, an increase of 0.9

percent. The LS 460/460 L and new LS 600h L luxury sedans reported combined

December sales of 3,257 and year-end sales of 35,226 units, an increase of

79.6 percent over 2006.

Lexus Division light trucks reported December sales of 14,715 units and

year-end sales of 128,843 units. The RX 350 and RX 400h enjoyed combined

December sales of 11,835 units and year-end sales of 103,340 units,

exceeding 100,000 units for the fourth consecutive year. The RX 400h luxury

hybrid SUV reported sales of 17,291 units for the year.

TMS Hybrids

TMS calendar-year-to-date hybrid sales totaled 277,750 units, up 44

percent from 2006. In December, TMS posted sales of 24,269 hybrid vehicles,

up 36 percent over last December. Toyota Division posted December sales of

21,972 hybrids and year-end sales of 257,765 units, up 51 percent over

2006. Lexus Division posted sales of 2,297 hybrids for the month and 19,985

units for the year.

There were 307 selling days in 2007, as compared to 306 selling days in

2006. There were 26 selling days this sales month and last December.

GM Reports 323,453 December Deliveries; 3.87 Million Vehicles Sold in 2007

Dec. 2007 Sales Chart

December Retail Sales up 1.5 Percent; Retail Car Deliveries Up 15 Percent

Combined Retail Share For The Past Five Months Up Year-Over-Year

Chevrolet Malibu Retail Sales Up 99 Percent; Cadillac CTS Up 51 Percent In December

Enclave, OUTLOOK and Acadia Crossovers Exceed 14,000 Retail Sales In December; GM's Mid-Utility Crossover Segment Up 275 Percent

Dealer Inventories Down 147,000 Vehicles Year-Over-Year

DETROIT - GM dealers in the United States delivered 323,453 vehicles in December, down 5 percent compared with a year ago. With 257,469 retail vehicle deliveries, retail sales for the month were up 1.5 percent.

GM delivered 3.87 million vehicles in 2007, down 6 percent compared with 2006. GM's retail market share is anticipated to be flat for the year, with daily rental share down significantly, as planned.

"We've executed our Go-to-Market strategy throughout the year, and the results show stabilized retail share and net price, reduced daily rentals, improved residual values, smaller inventories and outstanding launch vehicle performance," said Mark LaNeve, GM North America vice president, Vehicle Sales, Service and Marketing. "Growing our share in key car segments is integral to our strategy. The retail performance of the new Chevrolet Malibu and Cadillac CTS, Saturn AURA, Pontiac G6 and the fuel-efficient Chevrolet Aveo, Cobalt and Pontiac G5, demonstrates the enthusiasm customers have for these outstanding vehicles."

December Performance Highlights:

Chevrolet, Pontiac, Buick, GMC and Saturn divisions saw retail increases year-over-year

GM's retail car deliveries increased 15 percent based on the strength of the all-new Chevrolet Malibu, 2008 Cadillac CTS and fuel-efficient Chevrolet Aveo, Cobalt, Pontiac G5 and G6. Aveo sales were up 82 percent

Chevrolet Impala and Malibu combined were 24,000 retail sales, the best Chevrolet mid-car month since July 2006

Enclave, OUTLOOK and Acadia crossovers exceeded 14,000 retail sales; GM's mid-utility crossover segment was up 275 percent. Enclave had a record month.

Chevrolet Silverado, Avalanche and GMC Sierra full-size pickups built retail market share with more than 69,000 vehicles sold

Retail vehicles, as a percent of total deliveries, increased more than 5 percentage points to 80 percent

Dealer inventories were down 147,000 vehicles year-over-year

"The Malibu, CTS and Enclave have some of the fastest turn rates in the industry and we've seen Malibu retail sales increase nearly 100 percent compared with a year ago," LaNeve added. "I was particularly encouraged to see that even though we doubled Malibu sales and basically sold them as soon as they hit dealer lots, the Impala also had a terrific month. More and more customers are realizing that the best mid-car values are no longer at an import dealership."

2007 Performance Highlights:

Dealer inventories were at their lowest level going into January in 13 years

GMC and Saturn divisions had total and retail increases for the year

Enclave, OUTLOOK and Acadia crossovers exceeded 122,000 retail sales; GM's mid-utility crossover segment was up 333 percent retail

Daily rental sales were reduced 108,000 vehicles; GM was at its lowest level of daily rental sales in 9 years (about 596,000 vehicles), while significantly boosting content and resale value. Commercial/government fleet sales were up about 5,000 vehicles

Anticipated retail share stabilized at about 21 percent

Retail vehicles, as a percentage of total deliveries, increased 1 percentage point to 74 percent

"The Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid and Malibu, Buick Enclave and Cadillac CTS have been named finalists in the North America Car and Truck of the Year Awards, so our vehicles are being recognized as world-class," LaNeve said. "While we've seen a challenging market in 2007, we are offering shoppers the best products and value available. A shining example is Saturn's roughly 12-percent retail increase in 2007, being driven by the AURA, SKY, VUE and OUTLOOK. We believe the industry will be much more resilient than many forecasts and look forward to 2008."

Quality, reliability and durability (QRD) remain key factors for customers when purchasing a new vehicle. GM's 5 Year/100,000 Mile Powertrain Limited Warranty continues to make GM a better choice for customers. GM's coverage focuses on the complete ownership experience and includes other provisions that competitors do not offer, including transferability to the next owner, more complete coverage of parts, and coverage for new and certified used vehicles. In addition, GM offers superior complementary programs, such as courtesy transportation and roadside assistance.

Dont forget to roll up the windows and lock the doors.

CROSSOVERS, LINCOLN HIGHLIGHT FORD’S 2007 SALES PERFORMANCE; FURTHER GROWTH EXPECTED IN 2008

http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=27379

Ford, Mercury and Lincoln crossover utility vehicles paced the industry’s fastest-growing segment with a gain of 62 percent in 2007; Ford Edge challenged entrenched foreign models for supremacy among mid-size crossovers.

Ford’s Farley: “Ford Edge is a great example of our plan to build products people really want to buy.”

Lincoln posts 9 percent increase in 2007, owing to new MKX crossover and higher sales for MKZ sedan.

New Ford Focus up 3 percent in December (9 percent at retail).

Ford’s F-Series truck was America’s best-selling truck in 2007 – the 31st year in a row.

Ford’s 2007 sales totaled 2.57 million, down 12 percent compared with 2006; more than two-thirds of the decline reflected discontinued models.

Ford’s December sales totaled 212,094, down 9 percent.

http://media.ford.com/pdf/December07sales.pdf

DEARBORN, Mich., Jan. 3, 2008 – Led by two new and three redesigned models, Ford, Lincoln and Mercury crossover utility vehicles paced the industry’s fastest-growing segment with a gain of 62 percent in 2007, more than triple the industry-wide growth of 17 percent. In its first full year, Ford Edge sales were 130,125, exceeding Ford’s original forecast by 30 percent. In December, Edge capped off the year with its best-ever retail sales month.

“Ford Edge is a great example of our plan to build products people really want to buy,” said Jim Farley, Ford’s group vice president, Marketing and Communications. “Demand is growing at a fast pace beyond the nation’s heartland, our traditional region of strength.”

Ford expects continued growth in crossovers in 2008 with the mid-year introduction of the Ford Flex.

Lincoln achieved full-year sales of 131,487, a 9 percent increase versus 2006. The Lincoln MKX crossover was the largest contributor to Lincoln’s growth, but the MKZ sedan and Lincoln Navigator also helped spur Lincoln’s momentum, which began in late 2006. The next new Lincoln was revealed at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November – the MKS sedan that will debut this summer.

Sales for the new Ford Focus were up 3 percent in December (9 percent at retail). Focus sales were up 18 percent in November, the first full month for the new model.

Ford’s F-Series truck was America’s best-selling truck in 2007 – the 31st year in a row – with full year sales of 690,589. F-Series was also the best-selling vehicle, car or truck, for 26 years in a row.

Ford’s full-year 2007 sales totaled 2.57 million, down 12 percent compared with a year ago. Retail sales were down 10 percent and fleet sales were down 18 percent (including a 32 percent reduction in daily rental sales). More than two thirds of Ford’s sales decline reflected discontinued products.

Ford’s December sales totaled 212,094, down 9 percent compared with a year ago. Retail sales were down 13 percent and fleet sales were down 1 percent.

2008 Outlook

Ford expects the economic environment to remain challenging in 2008. Ford has said it expects the first half U.S. auto sales rate to be in the range of 15.5 to 16.0 million in the first half (light vehicle sales in the range of 15.2 to 15.7 million).

“We are restructuring our business to be profitable at lower demand and changed mix and accelerating the development of new products people want to buy,” Farley said. “We have more work to do to reach our ultimate goal – profitable growth for all. But we have made progress in a short amount of time in several key areas.”

Note: The sales data included in this release and the accompanying tables are based largely on data reported by dealers representing their sales to retail and fleet customers.

The media really is out to get GM. They resort to praise when they realize their attempts have been foiled.

I bet they cant wait for another $h!ty product to harp on. Maybe one day Consumer Reports of all magazines

will turn on Toyota.

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Because it is fleeting... And deep down we all know that. Our hopes were raised when Lutz was hired only to be destroyed for the next 3 years by a media hellbent on destroying Detroit. I'm not that forgiving or ignorant.

Funny you should use the word fleeting when talking about GM.

It's been ANOTHER week and I still haven't seen even ONE Malibu.

Maybe the "careening" is done in other places...?

Am I alone? Has anybody else not seen ONE yet?

No, but it took a good five or six months before I saw the new Camry and they sell what? 1/2 mil a year?

Not a deer but this should be newsworthy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=y-KEuemuG7g

Last time I checked Toyota, Nissan, and Honda were in the auto industry, not the whale slaughter industry..

Well how do you think they get to the dock to get to the boat so that they can slaughter the whales?

Ford Probes and Escorts that made it past 1999, any honda crv with mismatched fenders, panels or windows, toyota camrys from the Eighties that sounds like a motorboat
Anything with too much reading material on the bumper.

There has to be more behind that little Dixie avy of yours than Southern pride, my friend.

Nah, hes just waiting for the south to rise again.

Only seven letters? I see. How about MuF dYvr?

Theres the very real possibility of "peak oil" and theres also the possibility investors looking to line their pockets realize this possibility as an opportunity.

Geopolitical concerns aside the trend is your friend. Some see it as a bubble waiting to pop.

It wouldnt be the first time but there are other avenues that we definately need to explore.

I go to many sites, most I don't post on but just read them. After reading the following post, I'm am very thankful to be a member here, appreciative of the good common sense shown on this forum a great majority of the time. Just thought you should know how good we have it here.

Exhibit A: http://www.gmmodernmuscle.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2779

Cheer up, guy.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/for...sion=2007110712