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Um...Saturn is down
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All the black, dirty stuff directly behind it ruins the picture. It would make some clueless people that all that dirt behind the car came from the CTS...my point is that this is not a very flattering picture.
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@ vrazz:
Are you saying that the Canadian lines aren't unionized ??
No, there's the CAW there. Isn't there some US-Canadian agreement though that forces GM to build 2 out of 3 cars it sells it Canada..in Canada.
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Honestly, it's horrendous. Just a Saab 9-5 or whatever wagon which is ugly to begin with.
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It's a very good ad in my opinion, although I completely disagree with it, people will buy into it.
For me, an whether a car is American or not depends on the company in comes from. I am sympatheticalto GM's tries to avoid the unions and going to build cars in Mexico, Canada, and elsewhere. In a world where most carmakers (especially GM) are global, where a car is made is irrelevant. Besides, even if its made in my backyard, most of its parts probably come from elsewhere. I understand that GM builds cars in other places because it HAS to (builds them in China to avoid the Chinese tax on foreign cars, builds them in Mexico for the economical aspect of it, and so on). On the other hand, Hyundai and the rest of the Asian carmakers don't build their cars here because they have to or because it would be good economically for them to do so (they'd actually be better off building them in Japan/S Korea), they build them here to appeal to the stupid, ignorant, average american who believes that if a car is made in America it is American. That's BS.
The whole idea of "see the difference between perception and reality" is a great ad campaign though. I had been suggesting that the domestics launched such a campaign to challenge the perceived import quality and show that in reality American cars are at the same level as jap cars in terms of quality
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It is WAYY too close to the Saturn Outlook. I am crossing my fingers that this is just a chop...although it looks great I would of liked to see a little more differentiation
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Lol, I would shoot myself if Toy signes as sponsor. This is actually a move I am glad to see GM making - advertising is one of their worse things. If their Ads impoved as much as their cars it would be awesome. Lastly, I don't know about China being a good place to sponsor a US team. I wouldn't use Buick name there unless you are sponsoring the Chinese team.
O, and the contract was worth $900 million, not a whole billion.
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This is..a week old. I think we've all seen it already.
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I hope Ford gets a piece of it too.
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Oldsmobile is a different story. Saab won't ever be just shut down, sold off? Maybe, but not killed like Olds.
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The panle has apparetly been another wasted opportunity for GM...
I have yet to see 1) ANY on the road... 2) ANY at the dealerships and 3) ANYTHING close to remotely informing the consumer that it actually exists.
The HHR line could mount such an amazing assault on the Scion craptaculars, yet GM continues to ignore the obvious.
Yup..but nothing new. GM advertising sucks
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I cant see it selling well. I mean think of all the things you can get for 45 grand. \pontiacG8\cts
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i think this will massively affect much of the ecconomy of these countrys... for example toyota, sony, etc...
if a 27.5% tax was put on toyotas... they wouldnt be marketable in america would they?
Well its an economy they don't deserve -- their economy wouldn't have grown so much (look at China's) if they didn't play this game. And its a huge slap in the face that while China keeps their currency undervalued, they impose a 100% tax on any foreign cars not assembled in China.
And yes, Toyota can easily move their cars. Their profit margins would just be lowered. As it is now, Toy can sell Camry's for 17k and still make profit equal to that of American Big3 thanks to weak currency, no healthcare costs for employees and simply no unions of any kind.
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I hate CAFE. coupe!pleaseG6isyourmostimportantcarfigureoutwhattodowithitfastt
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Saturn needs more hybrids, the Corsa from Opel, an Astra sedan (or at least take note from the Astra sedan when redesigning the Aveo), and it needs to expand the Aura lineup like Caddy will do with the CTS. I am all for a Aura coupe.
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GMT700 Colorado not until 2012!!!??? That better be one hell of a refreshening or GM will have a Ford Ranger on its hands in the small pickup market. GM needs to put much more work into its SMALL cars and trucks. Small is big..I would never buy small but a lot of people do.
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What about the HHR?
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I think its a bad idea - originally they said they weren't going to and I don't know why they changed their mind. This could take away Malibu sales and why would anyone want to buy an Aura HYBRID that gets just 2 more MPG than the four cylinder? I think GM's midsize cars should go like this:
Chevy Malibu - Value for the money, fuel efficiency, 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder
Saturn Aura - attractive european styling, decent power/fuel efficiency, 2 V6s
Pontiac G6 - bold & aggresive styling, powerful and exciting, V6 and a V8!
There could potentially be a V8 Malibu SS but I'm against it, midsize Saab sedan should also have V6s standard
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Their #1 priority should be the next-gen Humvee we heard about...if they don't get that right they will lose nearly all of their brand image..and flashing around more H2 Hydrogen concepts won't hurt either - "Worst car company on the planet" is one aspect of their image that it wont hurt to get rid of
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Minivan: GM has canceled plans for a minivan based on the mid-sized Lambda vehicle architecture.
Thank god
I would love a Jeep Grand Cherokee competitor from GMC. Attack jeep from the left with Hummer and from the right with GMC
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Not enough is happening..this will do no more than sustain current sales..which have slipped enough - Buick needs to find a way to boost sales and the Enclave alone won't do it.
The future should be more like this:
2008
Enclave crossover debuts
2009
Re-engineered, restyled LaCrosse from china
2010
Riviera coupe in some form or another
2011
Lucerne redesign (in the form of bringing the Park Ave here)
2012
Consider Velite convertible
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And the 9-3 'vert periodically.
And the Aura
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I'm with all of you who wish it was here now. It would compete nicely with the Altima, its better than the camry (anything is), and even the NG Accord. But in 2-3 years... I just hope they keep future product cycles as short as this one and have another all-new (3rd gen)Aura by 2013
Up Close and Personal with the All-New 2008 Malibu
in General Motors
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I just went to see a Malibu in person today. They had all the trims available, and the LTZ (with the 2 round white lights in the back instead of one) looked very luxurious (I mean like $40000 car kind of luxurious). I test drove the LS and the LTZ and both were great!! 10x better than the Aura and 100x better than the Camry. This car will be such a success!!