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put an Ecotec in there and the Aveo instantly pwnes the others.....

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What do you think of this engine found in the Euro astra?

http://www.opel.de/shop/cars/astra/product...785?engine=LJ7&

35 mpg combined Euro driving cycle (using 6.7 l/100km)

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drive...rticleId=117227

Guys,

I do not see a balance review here, more like a 60-40 review (40, of course the + ve part). Apparently Mike Schmidt can be considered an import humper.

Here are some vagaries.

1. With the Honda Fit, Nissan Versa, Toyota Yaris and a newly redesigned Hyundai Accent already on sale, the entry of the 2007 Chevrolet Aveo into this highly competitive segment seems like old news. And in this case, old news isn't such good news for General Motors.

>> Mr. Schmuckidt can you justify that comment? A lame shot in his dark hind hole.

2. But with the Accent, Fit, Versa and Yaris charging uphill with bayonets affixed, the Aveo's improvements might not be enough to hold the high ground.

>> OK General Ulysses Schmuckidt stop pooh poohing.

3. It is astonishing to see anything built in the 2007 model year that does not come standard with ABS.

>> Mr. No-Research guy, the only car in its class which comes with standard ABS is Honda Fit, (i.e. 1 out of 6) (see the carsdirect link below). Even the bigger offerings from Hyundai (Elantra), Kia (Spectra), Toyota (Corolla), do not come with ABS standard in some of their lower trim models, accept it Mr. Schmuckidt, you are bluffing and trying to prove you have actually opened your Webster dictionary.

4. They're collectively looking at GM's market share with only two things on their mind: "Divide and conquer."

>> And the PR department of Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, and Nissan formed a grand alliance, and told Mr. Import-humper Schmuckidt their grand strategy of war!

5. And GM has left the door of opportunity wide open. Although an improvement over the old Aveo, the new version is just too light on performance and style to successfully fight off the invaders.

>> Didn’t Edmunds make a statement in one of their comparisons of small cars that they do not look for performance but the “values” when they want a small car? Why the double standards with the Aveo? Oh yes, it is an AMERICAN CAR. What style does the son of a pig Toyota, or the old Fit have?

6. And GM has left the door of opportunity wide open.

>> Chevy is not going to keep quiet in marketing. Ed Peper said in the release of the Aveo that they are going to target on the younger buyers using internet and different campaigns (University Giveaway Competition Anybody?)

http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...showtopic=12394

First of all the small car segment buyer is looking for the following things.

1) Price he/she has not to pay of the ying-yang while buying a new vehicle

2) More standard features for the money to make themselves feel “rich”

3) Performance not a priority

4) A dependable and quality transportation

Here is why Aveo will work:

Schmuckidt’s positive

1. Interior design is what really differentiates the Aveo from the competition. The two-tone chrome and carbon-fiber accents give the appearance of luxury and are pleasing to the eye. Fit and finish is good and the overall quality of materials is impressive for a car in this price range.

>> Now appearance of luxury and impressive quality materials is not style Mr Schmuckidt?

2. The Aveo LT offers features found on most other subcompacts in the market: A/C, tilt steering wheel, front armrest (driver only), hooks on the headrest for grocery bags, power windows and a 60/40 folding rear seat, to name a few. Some additional features of the LT are common in more expensive models but not so much in the compact segment. A six-way adjustable driver seat with lumbar support is optional, as are steering-wheel-mounted cruise and radio controls, dual power and heated side mirrors, power sunroof and a radio antenna integrated into the rear window. A radio input jack for iPods and MP3 players is a must-have in this market and comes standard.

>> Certainly more substance for the younger generation.

I am attaching the comparison link using carsdirect.com and it can be clearly seen that

http://www.carsdirect.com/research/compare...0,USB70TOC192B0

a) Aveo’s fuel economy (HWY) is third best

b) The only car in its class with available leatherette seating surface

c) One of two to offer sunroof

d) One of two to offer steering mounted radio controls

e) Only car to offer power trunk release

f) Smallest turning radius in its class

g) Only car with heated mirrors

h) Only car with I-pod integration standard

i) More standard colors than any other car

Overall Aveo has more standard features than Bumdai, Kua, Toy-boy-da, and Horndawg. The only car which compares is the top of the line Versa which is more expensive than the Aveo by about a grand. To buyers of this car segment style is defined by substance and Aveo has more substance than most of its competitors.

I do believe that Aveo is not a gem, it can have about 15 more horsepower and can improve its $h!ty city mileage by another three mpg or so (it is last in the group) which I think GM should work on fast. Because it does make Aveo go down in the value equation.

But if you look at the overall features and value for money it is certainly not at the bottom of the heap, may be I will dare to say among the top of the heap.

Please, importmunds.com stop making false propaganda and show some real data. With 45 minutes of research I came up with these conclusions. I am pretty sure more can follow. The HEP generation Schmuckidt is talking about is not dumb enough to buy the vehicles blindly as they will certainly research more than I have done.