I hope GMRULES again

We should take a poll and check it and the end of the year. I say they'll be lucky to sell 25k this year.

Probably not but Wagoner would be great on dancing with the stars.

Later on CNN had Wagoner on and he wasn't much better. He tries his best to dance around the questions. Wolf asked him what was GM's biggest mistake and instead of dancing he should of just said we built a lot of crappy cars in the 80's and 90's, we lost a lot of customers but we've made great progress in the last few years and we just need a bridge loan to get us through these economic tough times.

I actually watched 3 hours of this on the internet today at work and found it interesting. Wagoner isn't a very good speaker, he studders when he answers. I've always heard a lot of bad things about Nardelli and his past at Home Depot but I can say this guy knows his stuff about the auto industry. He was the best speaker of all of them.

That's what I'm hoping for.

I'm glad Pontiac is going to survive for now. My computer was down last night so I wasn't able to get the full details of the plan until this morning at work. The only news I got last night was on TV and they said GM would be concentrating on its 4 core brands then they showed an old 80's commercial of a Fiero with the We Build Excitement tag line and said Pontiac was dead. Then i saw some A hole on CNBC say that he hoped the 3 CEO's were driving Toyota's to Washington so they wouldn't have to worry about breaking down. Needless to say i didn't get much sleep last night.

What car are they referring to on page 22 of the plan where it says they plan to introduce this market's smallest 4 passenger vehicle, achieving higher fuel economy than the 2 passenger Smart ForTwo?

What a sad sight to see, the leader of GM sitting there begging these clowns for money. All the news clips I saw of this made me sick to my stomach. The three of them looked like students being scolded in front of the principal. The next time they go to Washington they should play it safe and car pool.

I came across another site http://www.helpfixgm.com/ for those of you with a lot of ideas and time on your hands.

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2. Malibu might be my next new car

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No, this info is just off the internet from various sources. The Silverado hybrid has been identified to have the same mileage as the existing Camry by people who have driven it - and tow 8,000 lbs.

Oh, BTW, Ottawa is rushing to Oshawa's side and ready to throw money at GM to 'design and build fuel efficient vehicles.'

Hmm, isn't that what GM is trying to do anyway?

Step 1: threaten to shutter the plant.

Step 2: sit back and let the usual suspects scream and whine

Step 3: wait as the government showers you with cash NOT to close the plant

Step 4: build the vehicle at the plant that you planned to all along, but now with fresh government funding.

Even Toyota couldn't plan this better.

Except for all the bad press it gives them and adds to peoples belief that GM is going down the drain. I've always wondered why they never decided to build a small fuel efficient vehicle in Canada, it makes perfect sense. Like Lutz says build em where you sell them. I always thought it would of been a great way to save St-Therese hopefully now it can save Oshawa. Isn't the small car segment close to 40% of all sales in canada? If not Canada then it is in Quebec.

Ok, this just from the Chevrolet side alone:

1. '09 Aveo will be here in a few weeks, major engine improvements (mileage), facelift, changes to brakes, electrical

interior.

2. The Traverse will be here shortly: better mileage, better powertrain than the Tahoe or Trailblazer.

For calender year '09, we have:

1. the 'new' small car with the 1.4 turbo

2. new Equinox

3. Camaro (for better or worse, but I'd wager the 2.0 turbo would be hot and fuel efficient)

4. new minivan being tested as we speak

5. Silverado hybrid that shames the 4 cylinder Camry.

What more do you guys want? I'll bet a paycheck that GM is fluffing off Hargrove with the Oshawa 'closings.' The TB is a dinosaur and with Traverse coming out, well - anyone at that plant NOT looking for a job a year ago was an idiot. Sorry to be cruel. What about the Impala rumors? Oshawa? RWD? 2.0 turbo in a 'large sedan?' Why not?

Even leaving the Volt out of this, GM has more 'small' cars and trucks on their way than anybody else. The current Silverado is twice the vehicle as the Tundra, and with the hybrid it will kick Toyota's ass.

It looks to me like the RenCen was planning for either eventuality: $3 or $5 gas and positioned well for both.

Very interesting. I'm guessing you got this info today to cheer up a battered dealer network? I too am hopeful the Oshawa closing is smoke and mirrors. A Silverado hybrid is just what the doctor ordered but it has to be a big improvement, not just 1 or 2 mpg. I Hope the new Equinox has a 4cyl now.

normally I'd agree with you, but not this time. Its not like the contract was agreed to years before gas prices started skyrocketing, and you sure don't decide to close a number of plants in a day or two. Which means GM was negotiating in bad faith which leaves a nasty taste in my mouth. That says a lot for me because I'm 99.9% always on GM's side when it comes to GM-union issues.

I agree. This company is going down the toilet. The only thing they know how do to is close plants. Another 4 plants close and tens of thousands of people out of work, no big deal. What are they up to now 15 plants closed since November 2005?. You would think they would of seen this coming 2-3 years ago and had other product in the pipeline to build at some of thier truck plants. While they were at it yesterday they should of pulled the plug on the Camaro too since the last thing they need is a gas guzzling muscle car. How ironic will it be next spring when 2500 people at the truck plant will be getting pink slips because of gas prices and next door they'll be launching the Camaro. They couldn't sell that in 2002 when gas was $1.25 a gallon. Idiots

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Nice to see the 2LT get the 6 speed standard, hope there's not too much of a price increase. Do you know if they will start builing the 09 Malibu earlier than usual? Seems kinda early to have the specs up for the 09's.

I've always referred to my own cars as girls. Goes back to me dad when I was young, he would talk to his cars when they'd have trouble starting in the winter and say "come on girl".

Driving home today on the hwy I was passed by a 65-66 4 door Chevelle Malibu, it looked a little rough but original. Gotta wonder why a car like that was out today as there's still 5 feet of snow on the ground here.

Beat me to it by a minute

I'm not a big fan of Hollywood and its culture but california is looking pretty good right now......

There's an old Cutlass in that garage that's dying to get out.

Sounds like your left foot is the problem, remove that and you should be okay. Maybe a loose wire or the body control module.