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Tesla Semi & Roadster 2.0

Tesla Semi & Roadster 2.0

Album created by G. David Felt · Updated November 17, 20178 yr

Tesla Released pictures of the New Tesla Semi Truck and Roadster 2.0 sports car.

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Drew Dowdell replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

Yeah, it sounds like it's purely a spreadsheet decision for you plus having a few niceties. I'm very much in the same boat right now. Chrysler just increased the monthly payment on my extended warranty to $100/m from $60/m. We own the car outright, but now that warranty is getting to be too high when you consider it's also a $250 deductible for a repair claim, so we're gonna start shopping soon once some respective job changes settle down. I'm looking hard at used Lyriqs for now because I would really love having Super Cruise for all the highway travel I do. He won't be driving much at all anymore because his new place he can get to by bus. He likes the look of the ZDX and Wagoneer S. I want to like the Mach-E but I'm meh on the interior. He doesn't want something EV9 or Ioniq 9 sized. There's no equation for us that makes buying an EV financially better than keeping our 300C, but it's got 105k miles on it and that's typically when we start looking to trade. That said, I've been banking 50% of both of our monthly mileage checks for a while now so between the trade in value and a sizable down payment fund, we should be good when the time comes.
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ccap41 replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

Well I'm not comparing the price of an EV to a comparable ICE vehicle. I'm comparing it to the ICE that I currently have that is not a 35k car payment + gas. It's a $175 payment + gas. ~500/month in total. I'm not looking to increase my monthly costs to avoid gas. That simply is not worth it.
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Drew Dowdell replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

Yea, at those numbers an EV9 doesn't break even. It depends on what kind of capability you're looking for if you need that kind of hauling capabilities. I think your Prologue / Blazer idea is pretty sound and you might even pull off a slight monthly savings that way if you can find a deal on one and drop the Navi.
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ccap41 replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

And that's why I'm not looking at those. I can easily find Prologues and Blazer EVs for 30k. I can find base models of each for 25k, but I like my niceties. A 35k loan (roughly the difference from my Navigator and 42k purchase price) is approaching $700/month. That's spending about $200 more a month than I am now with $175 payment + gas. That's nowhere close (in my opinion) to netting out. As gas comes down, the equation gets further apart. Yes, part of the point of this is to avoid the fluctuation of gas prices, but near-$700/mo isn't the way.
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G. David Felt replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

The fact that the EV batteries are now outlasting ICE engines and are expected to even outlast the EV auto and you can then use it for a battery pack on the house if you add Solar. Plenty of options, but the range and low cost on the EV9 in comparison to an equal ICE is very compelling imho.
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Drew Dowdell replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

You both have points kinda. The Kia is going to depreciate, but with the mileage you're doing, everything is going to depreciate. You're gonna get killed on whatever you buy or you're gonna get killed fueling the Navigator. If you're making payments on the Navigator, you might end up netting out to the same monthly on an EV9 after subtracting fuel costs, but having a substantially newer vehicle. That said, $25k for a near full-size crossover in this economy means it's gonna have 75k miles or more if you find an amazing deal, so at $40k, you're just buying lower mileage regardless of how it's powered. A Kia Telluride with 15k miles is... $42k. A Kia EV9 with 15k miles is... $43k.
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ccap41 replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

Anything worth a damn is over 40k, and I'm just not going to spend 40k on something that will depreciate like an EV9 will. It will be a heck of a buy at 25-30k, but not at 40-45k.
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G. David Felt replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

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G. David Felt replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

Always trade in the Navigator on a used EV9. Kia EV9 Vehicles with AWD/4WD for Sale in Saint Louis, MO - Autotrader
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ccap41 replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

I really need to. I need to just find one local to even do that with though. EVs aren't all that prevalent around here..
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