2016 Kia Optima Live Shots

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Live shot of the 2016 Kia Optima from the New York Auto Show Floor

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Drew Dowdell replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

First Gen Volt, yes. Your situation actually sounds ideal for a short-term commuter scooter, mostly because Volts can be had so cheap. On a long commute like that, you'd be into the gas sometimes and into the regen part of the way on the trip and still getting 45 mpg when on gas. If you can charge at both ends, even better. What makes it key though is cost. You can get a 2016+ Volt with 60k miles for like $12,900. You'd end up with a $300/m or lower payment and that like 2.5 Navigator fill-ups. https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicle/783656429?makeCode=CHEV&marketExtension=include&mileage=70000&modelCode=VOLT&numRecords=25&sortBy=relevance&zip=15201
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ccap41 replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

Wouldn't a Volt fall into the same category of abandoned-by-manufacturer vehicles though? I'm also not sure how I'd feel about going hybrid and completely charging and completely draining the battery every day. I feel like that would degrade the battery quicker and then I'm still relying on gas, albeit a very small amount. About 10-15 miles worth, if the online estimates of highway EV range are accurate of 40-45 miles of highway EV range. I drive 60 miles but it isn't all interstate speeds so I think the drive to the interstate wouldn't be too inefficient for an EV(about half the drive - I should actually get the exact mileage breakdown as I'm curious now). Of the 30.2 miles to work, 12.4 miles is a two lane 55mph road. There are a couple intersections within that where I'd stop and regen a bit, but not a ton.
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Drew Dowdell replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

I would tell you to stay away from both the E Golf and Focus E. They're basically abandonware by their manufacturers. You'd have to go into it with the attitude that any powertrain failure could total it. The Volt 2016+ could be an interesting option as a commuter because they're dirt cheap
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ccap41 replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

Then a part of me just says save up and wait a couple years for a new Scout. They're big enough to replace the Navigator, they're all electric (I have no interest in the range extended ICE hybrid version), and they look freakin cool.
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ccap41 replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

My only issue with the Bolt is... have you looked at them? I'd consider a Leaf if I didn't care at all what it looked like. The Bolt isn't completely out of the running, but I'm not sure if I can get over how it looks.
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ccap41 replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

I'd need 20k+ miles/year of a lease now that I've driving to work and not taking a bus. ID4 does nothing for me. My goal is for the EV to pay for itself by being less than I'm spending in gas per month. I don't know what a lease for 20k miles and needs to be like $200-250/month payment is. Anything more than that and it doesn't really seem like the value is there when I'm paying $175 for my Navigator and ~$80/week in gas. That's right around $520/month for everything. I don't know. I just know I'd want it to pay for itself and not by like $50/month. I'd want to see a significant savings in total. The current lease offers for an EV9 Wind AWD is $489/mo + 4k down and that's for 10,000 miles a year. The E Golf and Focus electric both fit what I want/need from something this size and both are compliance autos. I don't mind that, but the Focus electric has a pretty bad issue of coolant lines leaking into the battery pack and destroying that. The E Golf is air cooled, which I don't exactly love, but it seems to be a more reliable vehicle. It's also a Golf and that's a pretty solid vehicle to start from and it doesn't compromise interior space for a battery, like the Focus does.
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G. David Felt replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

I see lots of Chevy Bolts at decent prices with far better range than the VW. Electric Cars for Sale in Saint Louis, MO - Autotrader
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G. David Felt replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

Why not consider Lease as there are many attractive deals to be had or look at the used ID4 pro if you want VW. The VW E Golf was a compliance auto.
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ccap41 replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

Yeah, this whole situation has risen the prices of anything I've been looking at by a couple/few grand so I'm more on hold for EV shopping now. I've kind of shifted to wanting a 2017+ VW E Golf as a work commuter and hold onto my Navigator for my family. The problem with that is; because they only sold them in California, they're hard to find and they're mostly not too close to me. The closest right now is in Ohio and about 280 miles away. For a vehicle that only has 125 miles of range (when new and not highway miles) that's a long drive home.
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G. David Felt replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

Very cool to see this happening GM and Rivian are the latest to pair up with Utilities to embrace the move to V-to-G and V-to-H actual use. Homeowners can work with their utilities to get the technology installed. Managed, bidirectional EV charging advances with utility, automaker support | Utility Dive
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