G. David Felt

That is a crock, unlike the hump for the transmission, the differentials and drive line, ICE takes up way more room than an electric power train. You know this, over 2,000 parts in a basic ICE and about 20 in an electric motor. ICE takes up way more interior space than a flat battery pack between the frame and the electric motors. I learned much from you on older auto's, do not blame battery packs for taking up interior space when you know that is not true.

Seems Ford is expecting 2023 for when EVs start taking off in sales. https://fordauthority.com/2022/03/ford-ceo-jim-farley-says-mass-ev-adoption-will-start-in-2023/ I figure if all the low price EVs are brought to market then yes, folks will change over. Good read https://www.thestreet.com/investing/gm-keeps-a-big-promise-to-address-its-priority

That makes no sense, electric is smaller and uses less space, interior should be more spacious.

Pricing is going to be very interesting as it is on the same platform as the ID. series, specifically it is built on near identical length, width and height as the ID.6 SUV. Volkswagen ID.6 - Wikipedia I also saw this on the ID.6 which is on sale in China starting at $37,733. I wonder how close the Buzz will come to that price. Eventually the VW ID.6 could make it to the U.S. market (topelectricsuv.com)

Poor Fruit being damaged by that Wooman!

It is official, the House and Senate of Washington state has passed a ban on the sale and registration of new ICE auto's. Governer is expected to sign it later today. Washington State Legislature Passes 2030 Target for Phasing Out Sales of New Gasoline Vehicles | | goskagit.com In a Nut shell, the following: Clean Cars 2030 will: Put Washington on the road to powering its vehicles with locally-produced electricity that is cleaner and cheaper than gasoline. Spur a comprehensive planning process for Washington to get ready for 100% vehicle electrification. Clarify for local governments, automakers, charging companies, utilities, investors, landlords, and workplaces the direction of the state's EV market. Incentivize private-sector investment in new EVs and charging stations. Increase opportunities for Washingtonians to save money on gasoline. Reduce the cost and uncertainty of dependence on foreign sources of oil. Reduce carbon emissions and air pollution and the threat they pose to air, water, and health. Seems according to a yale study, 55% of registered voters approve of ending the sale of new ice auto's and moving to green auto's. ? Let the Debate begin!

Seems while some think the radical new design of Mercedes F1 auto is legal, most feel Mercedes is cheating.

Will be interesting to see what the internal dimensions are once this is out since it is on the Ultium platform. Gain internal room but keep the same external dimensions?

Send snow, you can have this bloody warmth and sun. My nose needs a break.

Imagine a new 70's era of custom Bev Vans. AKA Corvette Summer and the van with the LOVE BED! This all over again. Pinterest

My friend, take it in stride, as it is a very entertaining read and contrast to sitting in front of the boob tube and not thinking. I do enjoy the banter, at least we all get to think, research and discuss without personal attacks or going crazy political. Yes some will be ICE till they die, some will be ice to ev and die, some will never care. At least we will be well informed as to the coming options for our new rides over the coming decade of change.

Everything I read shows they are about the same when you factor in all the maintenance Diesel buses have and the cost of fuel in comparison to electricity. As per the link @surreal1272 posted, EV buses run 55 cents per mile to maintain versus $1.53 per mile for Diesel. Even in 2018 for fleets it was showing EV buses are cheaper in the long run than Diesel. Electric buses, including costs on climate and health, are cheaper than diesel - Sustainable Bus (sustainable-bus.com) Interesting studies on cost of ownership. Total Cost of Ownership: Determining if Electric Buses are Right for Your District - First Student, Inc. (firststudentinc.com) Another interesting study that shows while Diesel buses are cheaper than CNG Hybrid or Electric, CNG is only 50 cents per mile to operate, Electric is 41 cents per mile to operate and diesel is 8 times more expensive. NREL Study Compares Costs Of Operating CNG Buses Versus Electric Buses - enrg.io Interesting to compare how the upfront costs with lower maintenance versus lower up front cost, but much higher maintenance. Truly a world of change is coming.

A Crazy 850-900HP at the rear wheels Hellcat Rolls. So much more on this bad boy here: Hoonigan - YouTube

OUCH, while we all have our good and bad experiences with Dealerships, seems Ford has allot of work cut out for itself to improve in Dealership experience. Ford Dealers Fared Poorly In 2022 Internet Lead Effectiveness Study (fordauthority.com) Way to go Cadillac, 11 places higher than @smk4565 favorite brand. Seems there is plenty of work for everyone to improve. I am surprised by the Buick score considering how well rated their auto's are. Interesting from the link above is their final statement: Meanwhile, Ford dealers will be undergoing some major changes in the coming months and years, as the automaker has asked each to specialize in ICE-powered vehicles, EVs, or Ford Pro commercial offerings, though EVs will likely have to be sold at fixed prices via special showrooms, while dealers that turn inventory quickly will be financially rewarded. I reread the press release about the new ICE division, EV division and Pro Division and I do not get this from the press release. ?

Yes, ID.Buzz Cargo is RWD only as is the launch ID.Buzz passenger auto. I agree with using the same MEB platform as the ID. SUVs, I see no reason not to have an AWD version. Especially since the Canoo company has stated they will have RWD/AWD when production starts end of this year. Seems this summer or fall actual pricing will be released and firm details on the options available. We know one option is the Travel Assist package. E-mobility | Volkswagen Newsroom (volkswagen-newsroom.com)

With an average salary in the high-tech industry being from $75,000 to over $300,000 based on job/skill set, it still is crazy that people are spending so much for a home here in Seattle. Average prices are over $1 million if you feel you have to be in Seattle or Bellevue, but north or south you are still in the $600,000 - $900,000 range and even when you go 1 1/2 hrs north, your homes are still in the $600,000 range. Truly hard to figure out how anyone that does not like fiscally tight to save for 10 years for a decent down payment can afford to buy a house here anymore. I bitch about my Mortgage and then I hear from coworkers who have mortgage rates 3 times mine. ?

I understand that they do not have a head-to-head competitor to Jeep, but would the Z71, Trailboss Z71, ZR2, ZR2 Bison, or how about the AT4 or AT4X for the GMC line. It appears that GM has made all their various Off-Road packages available on all trucks and SUVs in 2022 per looking at their web sites. https://www.chevrolet.com and https://www.gmc.com Have to say these are bad ass looking trucks: Where are the German Trucks to compete with these? ?

If they make it AWD, they will sell all they can make. I can see this as a family Life Style auto for skiing, camping, etc.

Interesting, I saw this story about $1.5 Billion for buying clean electric buses across the nation. So I figure as per some that say the EV buses are about $500,000 each, how many would be bought? 3,000 So then I thought, wonder how many public buses are in the U.S. as I never really thought about it before. Per the following info: School Buses: America's Largest Transit System | Newgeography.com We got a long way to go to replace buses!

Volkswagen (VW) premiered the global ID.Buzz and ID.Buzz cargo in Hamburg today providing yet another solution to sustainable and CO2-free mobility. The ID.Buzz comes with the latest ID. software and sets new standards in its segments with the latest systems and functions for safety, comfort and charging. VW gave us the quick punch list of the ID.Buzz as follows: Design: The ID.Buzz transfers seven decades of Bulli know-how into the era of software and digitalisation Charging: Plug & Charge technology enables the ID.Buzz to be easily charged while out and about with up to 170 kW Interior Space: The ID.Buzz provides space for five persons and 1,121 liters of Luggage - and, as the Cargo, for two-euro pallets Software: Latest version brings state-of-the-art assist systems such as 'Travel Assist with swarm data' and automated parking to the range Energy Storage: Bidirectional charging (Vehicle-to-Home) enables the integration of ID.Buzz into the home energy system Market Launch: This autumn in Europe. Advanced orders can already be placed in some countries in May, U.S. market is slated for 2023 as a 2024 model Chairman of the Board of Management of VW Passenger cars stated, the Bulli stood for a new feeling of automotive freedom, independence and great emotion when it came to market in the 1950's. Today's ID.Buzz picks up this lifestyle and transfers it into the 21st century, emission-free, sustainable, fully networked and now ready for the next big chapter: autonomous driving. The ID.Buzz is bringing together the core themes of VWs ACCELERATE strategy in one product for the first time according to Ralf Brandstatter. Additional stories, videos and a ton more pictures can be seen here: The new ID. Buzz | Volkswagen Newsroom (volkswagen-newsroom.com) Today's ID.Buzz is built on the fully electric modular platform called MEB. The ID.Buzz is a pioneer in terms of sustainability: their manufacturing and shipping has a carbon-neutral footprint. The auto's heavily use recycled synthetic materials and the interior is completely free of any real leather. Over-the-air updates is standard on all ID. autos. The ID.Buzz family is built in Hanover. The latest ID. software has Car2X local warning system, which utilizes signals from other vehicles and the transport infrastructure to spot hazards in real time. Front Assist emergency braking function and in the MPV, the Lane Assist lane-keeping assistant. Travel Assist with swarm data is an option which partially facilitates automated driving across the entire speed range and assisted lane-changing on the freeway. There is also Memory Function for automated parking on a previously saved route. For the European Launch, the ID. twins will have an 82 kWh battery with a usable 77 kWh supply providing power to the 150 kW (201 hp) electric motor driving the rear axle as did the flat engine in the original Bulli keeping a reliable distribution of weight and low vehicle center of gravity optimizing the handling and agility. From 11 kW to 170 kW charging allowing you to go from 5% to 80% charged in up to 30 minutes depending on the charger. This all follows the ISO 15118 standard. The ID.Buzz is the first MPV that has the drag coefficient of a car, 0.285, thus reducing drag, reducing energy consumption, increasing range. The ID.Buzz Cargo is the perfect last mile delivery, service van with the ability to hold two-euro pallets of items. Efficient form with total German function is built into the auto. Long wheel base, low loading floor, maximizing freight hauling. Welcome to the 21st century of emission free relaxed driving the ID.Buzz way. PM_A_Bulli_for_the_all-electric_future_World_premiere_of_the_new_ID_Buzz.pdf A Bulli for the all-electric future: World premiere of the new ID. Buzz | Volkswagen Newsroom (volkswagen-newsroom.com) View full article

Nope, wrong, Blazer SS is an on-road performance ride. Z71 Blazer would be the off-road performance version. Bison Blazer is another off-road package version for performance fun. Chevrolet has plenty of competitor packages to go up against Jeep.

Seems like Chevrolet Performance is now hosting Desktop backgrounds of a wide range of autos. Vehicles (theblock.com)

Here is a truck for @balthazar and everyone else that likes a wicked fast built ride. Plenty of pictures and info on this family built ride. The C10 Slayer is Built for Boost (theblock.com) Seems to have all catalog parts for over 1,000 hp right out of the crate with parts bolted on.

Sound of Quiet, another long workday, have it quiet for extra focus.