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evok

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  1. Like I have said do not get me started on this topic. But, you have. First I will preface that I do not know the specifics of the changes to the SAE spec. or what has caused the variability. And truthfully I do not really care because it does not matter. Here is my assessment of your comments. You have used the phrases that are malicious and ignorant. "All of the auto manufacturers knew about the procedures." No, that was why the SAE spec. was redone. The global industry knew there was variability and chose to evaluate the spec. "Detroit chose to do the right thing, and the Asians chose to take advantage. " No you are incorrect again. Why the variability I do not know but the fact that the manufacturers have chosen to re-certify their engine show that they acknowledge there was an issue. Ford and Chrysler both stated that all of their engines will not be certified to the new SAE standard. "Now they got caught." You are ignorant and naive for stating that. Who got caught? Toyota and Honda released their figures at their choice and part of the new spec. negotiations. "and it probably won't matter, because you and the auto rag journalists will come to their aid and claim that they've done nothing wrong." Actually this is the statement that irritated me most. Read Detroit News, they started this ignorant debate against the Asian brands. As for me, I am stating the realities. The bottom line is the performance and that has not changes.
  2. Please guys don't get me started on this one! Don't use the terms, fraud, mis-lead, lied etc. It is just not true. The test changed so there is less room for interpretation. That is it. Credit Honda and Toyota for recertifing their engines to the new spec not the results of it.
  3. Welcome back - missed all of you guys. Cheers
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