thegriffon

mandatory

greenback

sometime next year, I'll be able to trade my current Avalanche in on a 2008 Avalanche with a hybrid, AFM, E85 setup?

I could drive around all day with the A/C on and the windows down and still use less gasoline than a Prius!

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Perhaps not all three, but it does seem from what GM execs have been saying that the dual-mode hybrid will be offered with an AFM-equipped engine, and there are certainly both FlexFuel and gasoline versions of the likely options. Also I'm not certain exactly which models will have the hybrid transmission next year—the Avalanche may not be one of them.

In form it looks like Provençale, but:

French: Camarade

Provençal: Camarado (In Provencal camaro is a sack or bag)

Gasçon: Camarada

Niçois: Cambarada

Breton: Kamarad

Catalan: Camarada

Corsu: Cameratu

At last, an explanation!

"Maurice Grevisse, in the good use, draws the attention, for French, to a particular form of the apocope: “the popular or slang language enjoys to substitute for the final part of certain names generally appointing workmen, people belonging to such or such social category, one -o which is not other than a form graphically reduced of the suffix - ot (lat - ottum). This popular suffix -o [which has nothing to do with the abbreviation of the type -o, as in stylo(graphe), patro(nage)] gives to the word an off-hand aspect, picturesque, sometimes ironic: Proprio (propriétaire), anarcho (anarchiste), mécano (mécanicien), métallo (métallurgiste), camaro (camarade), apéro (apéritif), garno (garni), convalo (convalescence), prolo (prolétaire)” (Gembloux: Duculot, 1975, 10th éd. p.114, Rem.1)."

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A few of these apocopes (such as proprio, listed by Oxford-Hachette as "very informal") are common enough to be listed in dictionaries and be handled well by translating programs, but camaro is not one of them.

In form it looks like Provençale, but:

French: Camarade

Provençal: Camarado (In Provencal camaro is a sack or bag)

Gasçon: Camarada

Niçois: Cambarada

Breton: Kamarad

Catalan: Camarada

Corsu: Cameratu

At last, an explanation!

"Maurice Grevisse, in the good use, draws the attention, for French, to a particular form of the apocope: “the popular or slang language enjoys to substitute for the final part of certain names generally appointing workmen, people belonging to such or such social category, one -o which is not other than a form graphically reduced of the suffix - ot (lat - ottum). This popular suffix -o [which has nothing to do with the abbreviation of the type -o, as in stylo(graphe), patro(nage)] gives to the word an off-hand aspect, picturesque, sometimes ironic: Proprio (propriétaire), anarcho (anarchiste), mécano (mécanicien), métallo (métallurgiste), camaro (camarade), apéro (apéritif), garno (garni), convalo (convalescence), prolo (prolétaire)” (Gembloux: Duculot, 1975, 10th éd. p.114, Rem.1)."

Bingo.  I have never seen that in French.

As I have said before, it is also a place.  It is a suburb of the city of Messina in Southern Italy, on it southern end, as you exit the toll road there.  I wish I had taken a picture. 

Also, can someone actually dig up any documentation on how Chevrolet first named this car?  With such a cult following, one would think this would have been publicized.

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Chevy took it from an old French-English dictionary. Have found a Provencale-FRench dictionary, but haven't been able to get the correct page to load (somewhere about page 460)

http://gallica.bnf.fr:92/Visualiseur?O=NUM...85&M=imageseule

Randy Stonehill

"Lung cancer, emphysema, cardiac arrest

She'll probably have a stroke when she sees

The ash-tray of her chest…"

Friend in French is "ami", and companion (sometimes used in Romance Languages as "friend") is "compagnon"

I've never heard of Camaro as friend?

Anyway, my word is:

Chevy

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It's used in France, but is not Standard French. It's probably as I've said before, from one of the Gallo-Iberian languages of south and western France, probably Provencale, as the form has an Iberian flavor similar to Portuguese, Castillan (standard Spanish) and Catalan. An exhaustive search finds no reference in any standard French dictionary.

hot

The Stream is a Mazda5 competitor, although the new model has mutated into more of a 7-seat wagon like the Peugeot 307SW.

Moe

Almost. Berlina, Lumina, Omega, Calais etc. are all Commodores—these are just the trim designations. Calais is the highest rung with more distinctive features—almost a seperate model, but not quite. Unlike numerous GM products from the '60s and '70s the different grades have not made the transition to an independant model life. Note that a couple of these levels (the limted value-edition Lumina and the standard Omega) are taken from export models—the Chevrolet Lumina sent to Asian markets and the Chevrolet Omega sent to Brasil.

You couldn't believe they were real so your mind blanked them out.

Somebody had better hurry their ass up and invent the teleporter. …

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Once they do terrorists won't bother hijacking planes—they'll just teleport bombs wherever they want.

This is why I fly myself...

And at the rate airline ticket prices are going up combined with the general lack of service and amenities and the added security and the hassle and the discomfort and the reliance on their schedules, I seriously plan on purchasing my own light aircraft within 10 years.

And for everyone else, VLJs will fly you from secondary airports in major cities to exactly where you want to go - not just where the airlines fly - at jet speeds.

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There's always the train—more scenery, less waiting, better food and no worries about cellphones, laptops etc.. On some trips it's actually quicker overall. For Flybrian's comparison it would definitiely be quicker than the airline, and not too far behind flying yourself.

How about this:  put all packages and luggage on a remote drone that is linked to the passenger plane.

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And you think you have lost luggage problems now.

It's not called Mesa  :AH-HA_wink:

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http://auto-report.net/WordPress/?p=212

I really thought they would make it to production sooner than 09. With some guys being able to buy them out right and me needing to finance. I imagine the camaro I have already starting saving for and arguing with the wife about is more like three years away. That really sucks.

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Check that release again—production starts in late '08. As such they may market it as a 2009 model.

To be fair BMW of NA, perhaps more aware of the GM crossovers, merely states that the X5 is the "Only vehicle in its segment with … Head-Up Display"—perfectly correct, as the only other two companies to have embraced the technology do not offer it in their X5 competitors (FX35/45 and Cadillac SRX).

By the time the X5 is on the market there may be three.

BMW is claiming it will be the first SUV to offer a HUD - who wants to correct them?

How reliable is the information off of Wikipedia?  It lists the 2010 Lucerne, 2009 Velite, and the 2009 Electra as vehicles that are DEFINATELY going to use the zeta platform..  What's up?

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It depends on who wrote it, which could be anyone, even you, and how much do you know about GM's future plans? Wikipedia is trying to put more rigour into the accuracy of entries, but this is not a subject which can be easily checked.

But I thought Toyota was the green company, that hippie down the street told me so.

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This is more a dig at a certain Ford plant than anyone else.

…The Aveo still uses a Daewoo motor... it doesn't benefit from any of GM's engine technology.…

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The Daewoo engine in the Aveo is a development of GM's Family 1 engine family from many years ago, so it doesn't genefit from any of GM's recent engine technology. GM do Brasil builds another generation of primarily SOHC FlexPower Family 1 engines, and GM Europe builds the latest DOHC Ecotec generations. The newest uses a smaller, lighter block and features turbocharging, TwinPort or Dual-CVVT technology. Older Family 1 blocks range from 1.4 to 1.8 L, but the latest is only built in 1.6 and 1.8 L capacities, as a newer, more efficient 1.4 has been added to the latest Family 0 block (1.0 3-cyl to 1.4 4-cyl). GM Daewoo has its own S-Tec sub-Family 1 engine family (0.8–1.2 L), even smaller than GM's Family 0.

Civic sales were over 38K in July, so the numbers are not that incredible. I have to think that there are big deals being offered to move the older Corolla though.