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for the kind of money they ask, it better look sexier than that like a Corvette or Viper or have the pedegree of a porche

Will that Fiat couch leak oil all over my livingroom floor too?

I'll trust side impact reports over door shutting noises.

The side impact reports for the Regal and Optima are the same.

So now can we move on to long term durability?

how does it handle?

wow.... someone gets it.

The Pruis handles like crap.

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Slam the door on a Sonata and slam the door on a Malibu... you'll feel right away which is the more solid vehicle

slam the door on a regal and its immediately evident why the regal weights a lot more......

IKEA plastic furniture is lighter than high quality hardwood stuff too.... I don't get your point.

I'll try that next time.... but I don't see too many Ladas around these days.

the regal and lacrosse are going to have to move up in their next versions. the lacrosse redesign should be, what, 2 years out?

trade it and don't look back

A 4.0 DOHC turbo V8 that still isn't as powerful as the CTS-V

And ground breaking technology that Cadillac had 30 years ago with "cylinder on demand".... Mercedes, Chevy, GMC, Chrylser, and honda (did I miss any?) have all had this "ground breaking technology" for years now. Honda's system even uses active noise cancelation.

thank you whoever did it

wonder if the 4-cylidner model will be the 2.5 or a turbo version of that engine rather than the 2.0T that is going into all of the buicks now

the begining of the end of the U.S. as we knew it

I'd like to disagree... but I can't.

The government has once again become the enemy. It needs a complete reboot from scratch.

wasn't there something about GM getting V8s for Cadillac years ago at the earlier planned death of the northstar?

They killed it in or around 08/ It had a lot to do with the health of the company and also the volume. This is why many here think this relationship with BMW may produce an engine to Cadillacs spec but be produced with engineering from BMW and GM.

Besides a little BMW DNA in a Caddy may change some minds of those who only blindly think German.

It is a Cost, Volume and Marketing idea we have that would not hurt Cadillac and may just give them the engine they need to put space between Chevy and themselves in the eye of the consumer.

Besides BMW can not afford the big programs like the Volt technology and getting GM to share it would help both companies. It would offset the cost of what GM spent and save BMW the development cost they can not afford on their own.

The key is where to draw the line that both companies protect themselves in the deal.

I'm sorry, I skipped a word. I meant to say "Wasn't there talk of GM getting V8s from BMW for Cadillac a few years back?"

show me the family relationship to any historical jag.

I thought they outlawed whaling. you'd be better off going with newer versions of these

it's still ugly

it's still ugly

doh!

The caravan is still probably the best answer for most who need that size, it's the one Chrylser is most likely to get right

Many in this class think that if you drive a Cadillac you are either cheap or can't afford the German car.

GM is really for once serious on Cadillac and we will soon start to see the real results in the next few years. The ATS is only the first shot and an entry level one at that.

As the new cars come and the prices climb we will see a level of Cadillac we have not seen in decades.

On the first statement I would agree. It goes beyond the price to image also, a German car has the image of more sophistication (the wine, cheese, and opera crowd), a Cadillac is for old people in Florida or gangsters.

Point 2 I am not sure of yet. If GM was so serious, why the front drive vehicles with Chevy underpinnings. GM said they were serious on Cadillac in 2003 when the first CTS came out, and it would be followed by a more rear drivers to fight the Germans, and 8 years later the STS, SRX (rwd) and XLR are in the graveyard. So I remain skeptical that Cadillac is for real serious this time.

On the 3rd point, I hope you are correct and Cadillac gets back to the Standard of the World. But as I said, I am not convinced yet. The ATS is step one and it is going after a legend so it better be good.

RWD is not the panacea it once was. Quite soon every single major luxury player will have a FWD vehicle for sale. So unless you are implying that BMW, Infiniti, and Mercedes "aren't serious" then you cannot apply that term to Cadillac.

The difference is BMW and MB will be using FWD only on the cheap entry-level stuff...the good stuff remains RWD.

$32,000 for a B-class ain't cheap.

You should take up hunting at the same time.... save on groceries.

am I still being warned? it's been like a month now? who do I talk to about being not warned?

this could be my next car

young guys aren't buying new M5s either.