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  1. The change in fuel ecomony is not a good measure of fuel saved. Change in fuel consumption is. That's why the Tahoe or Suburban as a hybrid makes more sense than a small car hybrid. Consider the Prius, considered by many to be the ultimate eco car hybrid. To make a Prius, Toyota takes a car that would have gotten 40 mpg as a non-hybrid and improves it to 55mpg. Drive 20,000 miles per year, and you have 250 gallons burned versus 364 gals per year. Thats a savings of 114 gallons per year. At $3.00 per gallon that's $342 savings per year. The GM says at least 25% greater FE for the '08 Tahoe hybrid. That puts it at about 25 mpg vs. 20 mpg. Drive 20,000 miles per year, and you have 800 gallons burned versus 1000, or a savings of 200 gals per year. At $3.00 per gallon that's $600 savings per year. This is more fuel savings than any other hybrid vehicle. The point is that adding 5 mpg on a larger car, like the Tahoe, is much more valuable than adding 15 mpg to a small car. The cheeseburger guy wants you to buy a small car instead of a large car. Thanks for your opinion. Who gets to make the choice of which car I will spend my money on? Not the cheesburger guy - I wouldn't even let anyone else order my lunch.
  2. [COLOR=blue]* Vehicle designs NOT shared with another GM division..... * A special UAW contract.....and VERY happy workers..... * A new assembly plant in the south when only import manufacturers looking to build there...since then, no other domestic manufacturer has followed them * Headquarters, field offices, white-collar employees separate from the rest of GM and with their own individual culture. All of which cost GM far more than the mediocre cars actually made. GM lost at least $3 billion on a "different kind of car company" "Special", "different", "seperate" are fine for Porsche with Porsche prices. But for a entry level car, one dedicated staff, one plant, one specialized are not sustainable. Actual Saturn quality was far worse than what customers reported since the Saturn dealers take great care of the customers. ( By the way, Saturn dealers are much more closely bound to GM common policies than other dealers, since the Saturn franchise are more legally bound to the centralized GM that so many compalin about. - the crappy dealers exist becasue they legally can refuse to behve like GM prescribes) The plastic panel flatness and gaps that acceptably large in the Fiero in the 80's and SL1 and SL2 in the early 90's look impossibly huge, especially after a few years of sun and freezing. The Ion now is a new car that has a amateur quality to it, since the panels look like something the neighbor has "restored" with two gallons of Bondo. GM's current plan is sustainable, and captializes on the all the fine product that Opel makes, but since the late 70's has not come to the US. For relatively little additonal costs, GM has a distinctive looking, high visual quality, high relaiblity car line for the US that finally uses the same engineering and manufacturing methods as their highest quality cars to go along with industry leading Saturn customer service. With the new strategy, one day Saturn will be able to pay back the $3B with interest and could be considered a good investment for GM, All of this is over Jerry Flint's head, who is now so lazy, he just mails in "me too" slam of the week. Time to retire. Actual journalism requires homework and critical thought.
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