G. David Felt

While I would take either of these American auto's over Asian or European, over all I still think they are an ugly category and space/comfort for big people is pathetic.

Plus those 32,000 crashes are a built in form of population control. If people are too stupid to be self responsible and they think they can drive, smoke, text, chat, eat, drink, apply makeup and all the other multiple things people try to do on the road at the same time, it is their own fault and those of us that enjoy driving and take pride in self responsibility should not be penalized.

Keep your socialist goody too shoes fingers off my ride!

And I'm sure the thousands of dead people in that figure who were innocent victims of someone else's driving would think this 'socialist' goody two shows idea is sounding pretty great.

-1000 points from Gryffindor.

Life is made up of Choice, If people allow themselves to become drugged lemmings doing what ever the Government tells them then Humanity DIES!

It is a sad fact that many Innocent people are killed by the stupidity of others trying to do to many things while driving or making bad choices to drink and drive. This should NOT penalize those of us that take responsibility.

As Drew and Dodgefan have stated, a complete total control of the car to drive and yet still having the auto pilot option is a good way to go for long drives especially, but one must not allow it to take total control. Many of the nanny devices being pushed on Auto's today are a bad way of allowing people to fall into a false sense of security when Driving requires total attention.

Plus those 32,000 crashes are a built in form of population control. If people are too stupid to be self responsible and they think they can drive, smoke, text, chat, eat, drink, apply makeup and all the other multiple things people try to do on the road at the same time, it is their own fault and those of us that enjoy driving and take pride in self responsibility should not be penalized.

Keep your socialist goody too shoes fingers off my ride!

Does that mean they are the new Minority of Lemmings?

But what about the tax value? Here in washington state since we have no income tax, the state gains everything by sales tax, so with a 10% sales tax on the value of the new vehicle being offset by the value of the tradein, it can make a difference on what you end up paying.

So are they going to flash the computer before shipping or will it be required that the dealer do it before delivery?

I'm guessing it's before they ship them.

I agree, other news places that covered this story mentioned that the factory would upgrade the software before shipping to insure no dealers let one slip through that could give it a bad experiance to the customer.

I think the only way you could insure a successful launch would be to flash and then ship. Dealerships seem to be 50/50 on updates to code on engines and transmissions.

In regards to the 6.0L V8, around town I get 14.5MPH in my AWD Escalade ESV, On a recent road trip to Santa Barbra, I averaged 17.5mpg with an average speed of 78mph.

All depends on how you drive them, but for me it is roomy, comfortable, great view of the road ahead and I have no problem with that gas mileage.

Awesome, this would be a great upgrade for them, now if only VW would actually bring the Euro versions of the VR to the US.

Great! Keep me posted. If there is a members' only area where you guys could post the code I would send it to you via PM. I just don't want it to get indexed and give everybody and their mother 20% off. Let me know and have a good one!

Sounds Good, will reach out to you on our chears and Gears PM when I am ready.

Question for you, what is the best way to give feedback on the site other than filling out the sales info request option for contact?

Looking at new headlights for the Durango.

http://www.rvinyl.com/Custom-Headlights-Dodge-Durango-1999.html

Very first option is nice but the description comes right out and says "Customize your Acura with these replacement headlights."

Vinylsmith, web site is nice, but does need updated current pictures. Looking for New Taillights for my 94 Suburban and their is no pictures of what they look like.

Thanks! Yeah,we're actually updating everything but it's taking some time. We don't have a lot of photos up yet but here a few pics of an 2002 Tahoe with our smoked, precut headlight tints: http://rvinyl.tumblr.com/post/62422637505/http-www-rvinyl-com-headlight-tints-chevrolet-tah

Let me know if you decide to try them out so I can give that coupon code to you guys.

Very Nice, will do once I figure out what I want to do as I also need stuff for the Durango as well as the Suburban.

Vinylsmith, web site is nice, but does need updated current pictures. Looking for New Taillights for my 94 Suburban and their is no pictures of what they look like.

Few days late...

I replaced the headlight housings on the CR-V. The headlight restoration kits weren't cutting it anymore. It took years off the visual age of the car.

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Drew that looks awesome, your right talk about taking years off when you have those yellowed covered headlights.

Bad News - You fall madly in love with your warranty tech, causing strange untapped feelings that lead you to seek psychiatric help.

Not sure how that fits into the story line?

Bad News, Your Mafia Hitman falls hard for the Lovely Lawyer.

Chrome accents on the Dash should just be banned as they reflect so baddly on the windshield and into your eyes that they are a safety concern to me. I hate them.

So, they enforce that ?

Yes, ifyou have your sticker in any other place, $159 ticket.

Very Cool, Hopefully more reliable than the news on 9 speed tranny's.

WOW 1.6 Billion in total fines covering the 30 different parts sold to Asian and U.S. car manufacturers, including starter motors, alternators, and ignition coils.

They should have to pay way more than that, double or tripple what they stole to really make this an impact.

In that case, just use Tire Black to make any and all plastic pieces look like new along with the tires and it lasts for a few weeks. More than enough time to trade it in or sell it.

Have to go with B rate movie, Mad Max series for me, those are just pure awesome for their time especially the very first one with his Pinto Station wagon tricked out.

Good Idea Vinylsmith, I think there are plenty of people who cannot afford much and would like to see how these entry level auto's pan out.

Personally I would go with the Sonic as Drew suggests, but a comparison would be very cool.

Just start with the Tech Comparison of what each has and at what cost as this alone can show you where the value is at from a pure tech list and cost stand point. Then you have to add the seat of your pants personal feeling based on actual driving / handling.

WOW, Talk about a job of Flashing hundereds if not thousands of auto's with new code.

Not sure which is worse, laying off people temporarily or building a faulty product that MUST be upgraded before it can be sold.

I have used all the products listed here and they all work well and seem to last the rain for a good long while before fading again.

Welcome Vinlysmith!

So are you saying the tinting film you would put on your auto glass to darken it then? What is the web site to review your products?

Again, welcome aboard.

Pontiac is a nice History Note for those few versions that are collectors capable. Otherwise, Buick was a bread and butter option that fits in the family better than Pontiac and believe me plenty of us tried to have it as a niche Performance player. But history is what it is, too many labels in a market that is due for more consolidation.

I believe Volvo will go away in time also.