Daryl Z71

True but the overall design was nothing to talk about either.

Careful there buddy I have a 94 Z28 and I happen to like the look of it.

He's in deep trouble...

Whys that?

GM does not own the Pontiac or BPG dealerships to sell. So, in actuallity, GM is selling the dealer contracts/licensing. If GM sold Pontiac, the dealers would have the option to stay with the new buyer or leave. Having a non-GM brand selling at a BPG dealer is nothing new... a lot of BPG dealers are combined with non-GM brands. My local BPG dealer also has Mitsubishi.

Don't matter. Killing Pontiac will be a death sentence for 90% of the remaining Buick-GMC dealers unless they get a new, non-GM brand. That's how our local Olds dealer survived... now they are BMW-Honda.

One dealer around here has a GMC, Pontiac, and Subaru Dealership.

I think the Dexcool used to eat the gaskets in the older cars, is what Ive heard on alot of other websites. I think it's ok now though, because I think they changed the gaskets to be plastic and have O-Rings so it wouldn't eat them anymore. I know when we changed the intake gaskets in my GF's 02 Grand Prix they were plastic. What sucked about that was it was broken and thats why it was leaking.

Thats gonna make people believe in Chrysler alot more!

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Bad Restaurant - Ruby Tuesday

The car would have been really sharp looking if they kept it like the concept design.

lol I wonder who thought of that?

Now the question is will someone buy it?

No German cars too then right? The Brits killed us too, so no British cars either. Uhm... we fought Italy as well... nothing from them. French cars suck so doesn't matter if we don't get those... lets see... uh... Well there's Australia and South Korea.

Allright! So we can buy South Korean, Australian, and American cars!

Anyways, really, you guys like to push the "Necessity is the mother of all invention" even along the lines of fuel regulation and air pollution regulation. So along the same lines of artificial needs, having foreign competition here is an "artificial need" so your same "Necessity is the mother of all invention" line should hold true.

As Ford is showing, it is definitely possible to be able to compete with Japan, even on uneven footing. And guess what? If Ford is successful in their gambit they will be a FAR BETTER company than Toyota could ever be because Ford has to be far more resourceful and efficient in its processes to compete... and once the playing field begins to level more as globalization progresses, Ford will be in the dominant global position over Toyota who had to rely somewhat on their own government to "move forward" whereas Ford has only themselves to rely on.

Exactly lol

Now GM.... SHOW US WHAT YOU CAN DO NOW THAT YOU'VE SUPPOSEDLY GOTTEN YOURSELF DOWN TO A NUMBER OF BRANDS YOU CAN ACTUALLY MARKET!

Oh wait... I forgot... It's not that you don't have the resources to market, it's just that, as a corporation, you're too stupid to sell cars.

Chalk this accomplishment up to another milestone that NO ONE will hear about or know about. You know, like the Malibu being COTY and GM not using that in advertising until a month before the new COTY was announced.

Yea they never advertise these things like they should.

Oh well seems like the site keeps getting better every time anyway.

Thats what ticks me off so much! They killed how many of our soldiers in the war, but yet we go ahead and let them sell their garbage over here and make a killing on it. If I was a Veteran I would be disgusted that my own country basically betrayed me!

again?

Hell Yea! lol

My buddy has a black regular Cobalt that he made to look just like an SS. He even put clear tailights in it. He chipped it, put a header on it, and a full exaust. It has a ground effects kitt too, and it sounds pretty good for a four cylinder.

Not really.

The time to have dealt with these issues was decades ago.

The unfair trade practices should never have been overlooked in the first place.

The level playing field should have been the guiding policy from the start.

What to do now is another topic entirely.

Nuke em :AH-HA_wink:

Nice to see the Silverado's on the list.

Aww Man wasn't the site down just the other day?

If what you mean by "spreading the wealth" you mean "returning to Clinton era tax rates" then sure.... I'm all for it.

And no, it's not the same thing. I am all for global trade on a level playing field. We are not on a level playing field in terms of currency and trade restrictions. We'll let just about anyone sell here in the US but US is not allow to sell in substantial quantities to other countries. If General Motors were allowed to compete in Japan and they failed... well then that's their fault.... but General Motors isn't even allowed to compete there. The best they could manage was a rebadged Cavalier sold at Toyota dealerships. When the Asians open up their borders to trade the way we have, then I'm all for globalization. That said, I have no problem parking a battleship in Tokyo Bay in order to do it.

Exactly.

We had three Saturn-Saab dealers in town but now we have only one. One has become and Hyundai dealer and the other closed outright. Is this going on elsewhere in a big way? I'd think that some potential buyer for Saturn would be cognizant of how the dealer network would seem to be contracting bigtime.

How good is that Hyundai dealer doing?

Prius owners should be $h!ting themselves.

Nah they'll just go on thinking their Toyota is the greatest thing out there.

...and if your interested, there is a 67 El-Camino on the back row of a Crap-happy (dead corollas et al in the front row) car dealer here in Columbus. I bet you could pick it up for a couple grand, and it doesn't look badly beaten.

Sadly, with the high price of scrap a whole field of Vintage Chevrolet's went to the crusher about four months ago. Including about 3-4 potentially fixable first gen Camaro's and several early 1960's Impalas.

Chris

No way in hell I would crush those cars!

NO! For god sake SELL HUMMER ALREADY!!!

Lmao! Poor Stupid Bastard

I just wish they would have kept the G8 and Solstice. The more I think about it they were the cars that Pontiac needed, and even though it's still hard to believe I just don't understand the reasoning behind axing something that was just starting to get good again.