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One word: Dorky.

Just a badge engineered Durango with fancy wheels... I kind of figured that the Chrysler brand would abstain from SUV's and leave it to Dodge and Jeep. After the Pacifica, I was hoping they would come out with a new crossover. They seem a little classier than most SUV's, especially the Durango.

It's nice, real nice. But I'm going to be 'ants at a picnic' and say that packing a 400hp engine seems dumb, it'll be too close to the Corvette. I know this is a concept, but I wish GM would be a bit more realistic with the horsepower. I sure hope that they will have a V6 model and a couple V8's that will be more affordable. If they want to drop in the Corvette block and call it a Z28, that's cool, but lets hope that they do have RS-spec (or something like it) that will be much cheaper and will pit the Camaro directly with the Mustang.

I actually don't mind the Caliber, but it really does look better in black. At least it looks a little different than all the Corolla's and Civic's out there which try to look inoffensive to all, but at the same time, bland and unattractive.

Weird because in studies done during the '04 electon I thought liberals were more likely to drive a foreign-made car.

Talk about not making sense, dfelt.

I think it's useless trying to define a person's political view just by the car they drive... My family are memebers of the Conservative's (Canada) and we drive domestic and my buddy is also a conservative but he drives a Mazda.

There is only one vehicle I know of that scream's "liberal" and that's Volvo! :rolleyes:

Let's all agree on this: if a dude is driving a Scion xB-ox he's neither a liberal or a conservative but instead just an ill-informed moron... that or he's a Ralph Nader (pinko-commie) kind of guy. <_<

Such a great SUV and yet it is lacking one thing that would be a nice selling point... the 6.6 Duramax with the Allison 6-Speed Automatic. A big vehicle like this could really use an optional diesel engine.

...but she wants to take it to work, where it seems all the parking spots have been made for compact cars and I've got two really nice scratches on my Malibu to prove my point to her (and the fact that someone with a blue car hit the rear quarter panel and left some paint on it - which thankfully was able to be rubbed out).

Hmmm... maybe Saturn ought to bring back the dent resistant body panels :P

Actually, I think he has some good points and says what needs to be said, but I would have taken him more seriously if he didn't add all that shtick, (ex. "the HHR couldn't hit hip with a hand grenade")

I like the 300 and I also like the Charger, but this 'thing' just looks awkward. Lucky for us, it's only a concept, and I don't see it hitting dealerships.

I feel bad for you dudes out East who stayed up to see this...

Look for every writer to gush over this craptacular vehicle where ever it is unveiled.

I dunno... Something tells me that pretty much every writer will gush praise for this vehicle because it is a Toyota and it is so 'hip and in touch with today's youth' (local paper.)

$10 Canadian Bucks says that this *thing* will get more praise than the HHR and PT Cruiser combined. :angry:

I've seen uglier kangaroo and brush guards. At least this one looks nicely integrated and matches the front fascia. It'll be a hit with the urban cowboys :rolleyes: .

What could the other concept be? Start the speculation....

I'll bet it'll be a small car, probably a global one that will replace the Chevrolet Aveo/Suzuki Swift/Pontiac Wave/Daewoo 'Thingy'...

And to you Mr Evok, I know more about the car business than you'll ever begin to realize. It's really about the people. The cars just bring the people together. After 15,000 individual retail sales and as national sales leader 6 times, it's fair to assume I have a firm grasp on what's going on in this industry, and it's much more than your blathering bs.

Whoa... Dude... Chill Out :unsure: ... This is getting stupid. I joined this site because I thought we all like GM in one way or another and we are on here to discuss the issues, not say someone's opinion is bs.

Is it possible to have the admin just delete this message board? This is one board that we all best forget about :( .

I really ought to start reading the articles :AH-HA_wink: ...

Jesus tap-dancing Christ, I hate reading forums that are nothing but arguments.

FOCUS: Although I'm young and naive, I do think that Wagoner is probably the best guy for the job, at least for now.

It seems people also worry about GM losing the Number 1 Spot to Toyota. Although Number 1 always sounds great, in a lot of cases, it isn't. Here's a terrible example:

McDonalds & Burger King. Anytime something bad comes up about Fast Food, McDonalds gets the heat despite the fact that Burger King is also responsible for fat kids.

Same thing with GM and Toyota. Right now, most critics seem to poke and prod every one of GM's moves, and have little good to say about the company, despite its efforts to improve quality(which they have) and release new vehicles. When was the last time Toyota released a totally new vehicle? I have not yet read an article critical of Toyota's lack of new design and yet I have read tons of articles saying that the new HHR is a "PT Cruiser Clone," that it's "too retro" and in another case, "too dopey :blink: ."

Toyota recalls its Hybrids due to software problems, and GM has a recall for the rear latch on its SUV's... guess which recall got more press in my local paper... (cough, GM, cough)

So you know what, let Toyota have the Number 1 Spot. It'll only take a short time until some critic describes the new Camry as "fat and boring." Soon afterwards, maybe writers will realize that Toyota quality may be a thing of the past, and that other brands have matched or surpassed it. With GM in second place, people may finally give Bob Lutz or Rick Wagoner the credit they deserve. Honestly, who cares if your number two. That doesn't stop people from buying Toyota's, and it really won't stop people from buying GM's.

Where's my Rum n' Coke? I need to cool down...

Nice to see the American companies roll out something that's heavy duty and does not use an ounce of Toyota tech. I just hope that 'diesel hybrids' may be rolled out someday.