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Toyota is coming out with Supra in '08. Base models will recieve a V6, unknown displacement at this time, with an optional 5 liter 450 horse V8. There will be a spider version also, but only available with the V6.

Sorry, but I don't back down from someone who vomit's at the pie hole.

Don't hold back on my account, if you have something to say then grow a set and say it!

Which bridge is that? I never threw an insult at anyone like that when I first got onto this forum! If he wants to cry that bad then I'm sure his local daycare can help.

LOL, your a joke!

Man, you must have spent a lot of time thinking that up. I would tell you to put some ice on your head, but we wouldn't want to damage the two brain cell's you have left. Like I said before, there are some people on here that are too stupid to know any better and you were at the top of the list for a reason. I've forgot more about the automotive industry than you know, so when you graduate from dirt bag school and restore what little bit of thought process you can, go change your diaper and quit wasting your breathe!

If I had the cash I would have a lot of things, but just like me and you most people don't have the cash. That's what is hurting them.

I trully give praise on both side's. We are one of the top 5 Toyota dealership's in the nation for customer satisfaction, but I also do my best to take care of GM. We are just having a hard time trying to pick up the slack where are salespeople drop the ball. You know what I mean in that aspect! lol I really think that GM wastes so much money trying to keep 8 or 9 brands when they could consolidate a couple (GMC and Chevy), sell a couple(Hummer,Saab) and use that money for a better cause.

I understand what your saying, but they haven't got the reliability history that the Civic or a lot of the other's have to rely on. People buy car's now based a lot on their history and if your going to spend that kind of money then why not go a little farther and get the luxury that goes along with the price tag. Just trying to figure out where they could chop a little off and push that money into their mainstream vehicle's.

Now, I'm just asking, but don't you think they are in a price range out of the mainstream car buyer. Couldn't they save money, drive the value of these car's up and help improve their financial position even if for a short period of time? Not stirring a pot just asking a question.

Now, don't put word's in my mouth. A lot of what I said in previous statement's I don't trully believe like I stated earlier. Now open your mind and read what I am typing. First of all you don't accuse the customer of anything regardless of the car they drive. You don't drive a car maker in the ground especially when you sell that make, but you do explain to the customer that they are responsible for the basic maintenance of the car or truck. You wouldn't believe what some people think should be covered by a factory warranty regardless of the miles they have put on it. Some people act as if they should have no responsibility other than changing the oil, filling it with gas and driving it. Tactfullness is key! If you put 80k miles on your Hyundai and the tranny goes out, you had better hope that the tranny had been serviced at 30 and 60k miles, because I have seen them void warranties when they find out you haven't.

Let's just say I work both sides of the ocean. No, I'm not a very mobile prostitute! Although I bet that would pay better! lol

Is this line of car's coming back to bite them in the rear? Just curious as too what you think.

Not at all, but I will say that a lot of the small problem's that customer see, which is usually around 60-80k miles is because they have been convinced that the basic maintenance recommended by GM earlier in the cars life is a waste of money. They don't service the tranny or the fuel system and get mad at GM when the tranny starts to buck and jerk while driving, Or the service guy is trying to milk them for every dime by having thing's done when the vehicle is well over 100k miles that will do nothing but cause more problem's and GM get's blamed for that also.

It's a little more complicated than that, because this is a forum that is leans in one general direction. It's a GM site like they said before. I am making an honest apology to you and everyone else on here. Do you get a more honest reaction if you walk up and slap someone or if you give them a chance to think about it first. I think you understand what I'm saying.

That's a good question. I know they made them last year, but to be honest I haven't seen one come in yet for '07. A good friend of mine has one and it was pretty impressive, but the downfall is that it is like a two-stroke dirt bike. A good portion of the real power doesn't come in until 7k rpm, so unless your driving around town taching it out you don't get to really enjoy that power too often. If you live in a big city that might be a little different. They may have done away with it since they got rid of the Celica, but it takes a little bit for that info to filter down to the service dept.

Ok, it's time for me to come clean a little and apologize. I'm not on here trolling and bashing GM, it's owner's or praising Toyota into perfection. Whenever I find a new forum I stir the pot a little to get a better understanding of how the people think, figure out who know's what they are talking about and who the narrow minded folks are. It doesn't matter where you go these are the people who may not know anything, but aren't smart enough to know any better. You can't change their mind's no matter how right you are. This is how I weed them out! FlyBrian do you really think that I just happened to rag on Aurora's even though you have a picture of one posted on every reply. I'm sorry if I pissed in a lot of wheatie's but sometime's it is needed to determine character and you don't get more raw reaction then to insult something that is important to someone. I know about the recalls on both sides and yes Toyota is having more than normal. This is common knowledge and so is the financial situation in Detroit. I didn't know about the Corolla recalls, but that was because of the small number of cars affected, so I do appreciate that little bit of info. Now, I am not kissing butt or throwing the towel in, but I am not someone who talk's to people like their dirt and if anyone feel's that way then I do apologize. You will get nothing but genuine opinion's in an open-mided fashion. I am not saying I will agree with everything, but I will not treat you in the manner in which I have the past few day's. Jesus, I'm starting to sound like my wife is writing this! lol Let the opinion's flow and just for the record I cannot stand the nose of the new Camry!

First of all the that is not the only engine option on the Corolla. There is the XRS model with the 6 speed manual and 185hp (Celica motor) and at the 8,000 rpm redline it will snap you back in the seat. The Supra will be back in 2008 with a 5 liter 450 horsepower optional motor. Every new Camry that hit's the ground is already sold and at least half of them are V6's, most with the ground effects package. We sell probably 70-90 new Toyota's every month out of 180 cars and trucks. The Accord is a great dependable car, used to have one myself. Never said anything about Honda that was bad. The Fusion was supposed to be Ford's saving grace and that is obviously not working. Very sharp car on the outside, but the interior just looks cheap made, that is where Ford falls off. Yes I have owned "American" made cars, and they have never measured up even before I owned my first Toyota. If GM would cut down to about 3 or 4 brands and vest their money into just those 3 or 4 with better quality and less overpaid manpower, they will pull out of this in time. If they continue to try to finance all 8 or 9 brands they won't make it and the shareholder's will allow Kerkorian to take over. Got the little bit of money they are making spread out too far and too thin.

Maybe you should actually try reading. If that's all you see then maybe you should take the blinders off! lol Here's another one for you;http://finance.yahoo.com/columnist/article/richricher/4353

This is a site you start to become real familiar with in the future. http://www.gmproblems.com/media.htm

http://www.lemonauto.com/complaints/default.htm I do stand corrected on the Corolla and I apologize, but look at the number of affected cars when going through these. There isn't even a comparison between the two. lol Take a look at this and I thing it speaks for itself! Auto News & Advice Consumer Reports' 2005 Survey Picks Best and Worst in Reliability advertisement Consumer Reports offers in-depth vehicle reports for every model tested - to help you make the right purchasing decision on your next car or truck. Japanese imports earned most of the top reliability honors, while European models scored well below average in this Consumer Reports study. The Honda Ridgeline (shown) earned top ratings in the pickups segment, along with the Toyota Tundra. Hybrids continue to be very reliable, including the oldest of hybrids, the Honda Insight. European brands did not fare well in the SUV segment, including the Land Rover Range Rover. The Prius is one of three Toyotas to be ranked in the most reliable small cars segment. The Toyota Sienna stands alone as the only minivan to rate better than average. Most of the worst sedans in Consumer Reports' ranking come from Europe, including this BMW 5-Series V8. The Nissan Titan dropped from being average to being the worst in the list of pickups. Japanese cars dominated the survey with 29 of 31 cars earning a top rating. Of these 29, fifteen came from Toyota and Lexus. Our 2005 reliability survey, the largest of its kind, reached a milestone this year—we've gathered responses on more than 1 million vehicles from Consumer Reports and ConsumerReports.org subscribers, the most we've ever received. These results underpin the most comprehensive reliability data you will find anywhere. Here, we give you a first look at our new Reliability Ratings for new cars, based on this survey, and the models that we expect to be the most and least reliable. The difference between the best and the worst models is striking. For example, among large SUVs the least reliable model, the Infiniti QX56, is likely to have about eight times as many problems as the most reliable model, the Toyota Land Cruiser. See Best and worst for a list of the models that have earned the best and worst Reliability Ratings in various vehicle categories. Following are some of the more notable survey findings: Of the 31 cars that earned top rating, 29 were Japanese. Of these, 15 were from Toyota and its Lexus division and eight were from Honda. Some redesigned or new Japanese models from Toyota and Honda, however suffered "first-year blues." The new Scion tC and the redesigned 2005 Acura RL, Toyota Avalon, and Honda Odyssey earned only average reliability scores, for example. Of the 48 cars that earned the lowest rating, 22 carry American nameplates, 20 are European, 4 are from Japan (all from Nissan and its Infiniti division), and 2 are from South Korea. Some European models, which have had poor reliability in our previous surveys, improved slightly. The six-cylinder BMW X5 and X3, for example, earned average Ratings and are now the first European SUVs reliable enough to be recommended. However, most European models still scored far below average. Hybrids from both domestic and Japanese manufacturers continue to have above-average reliability, including the Honda Accord and Civic Hybrids, the Toyota Prius, and the Lexus RX400h, which received top scores. CRUNCHING THE NUMBERS To help car buyers find trustworthy vehicles, every year Consumer Reports conducts an extensive reliability survey of its approximately 6 million magazine and online subscribers, asking them about any serious problems they have had with their vehicles in the preceding 12 months. This wealth of feedback helps us build comprehensive reliability history charts for vehicles covering eight model years from 1998 to 2005. They show how well older models are holding up and what types of problems they have had. For new car buyers we use the reliability history data to determine our Reliability Ratings. SEDANS AND SMALL CARS Toyota, along with its Lexus division, makes more than half of the sedans and small cars that earned our highest Reliability Rating. All the others that earned this Rating were also Japanese, including the Honda Accord and previous-generation Civic; the 2006 Infiniti M35/M45; and nonturbo models of the Subaru Impreza. Most of the worst sedans in our rankings came from Europe, including several expensive luxury models such as the Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar S-Type, and the Mercedes-Benz E- and S-Class. The rest of the bottom-rated small cars and sedans were from domestic manufacturers and included the Chevrolet Cobalt, the V8-powered Chrysler 300C, and the Lincoln LS. HYBRIDS Hybrids continue to be very reliable, with both SUV and sedan models from Honda, Toyota, and Lexus earning the highest Rating. The Ford Escape SUV had above-average reliability. Even the oldest hybrids for which we have data, the 2000 Honda Insight and the 2001 Toyota Prius, continue to be very reliable. SUVs SUVs from Asian manufacturers were the most reliable overall. However, neither the large Nissan Armada nor its Infiniti QX56 cousin are past their teething problems yet. Two South Korean SUVs, the Hyundai Tucson and the Kia Sportage, also rate among the worst. European brands anchored the least reliable list. Unreliable models included the V8 BMW X5, Land Rover Range Rover, Land Rover LR3, Porsche Cayenne, Volkswagen Touareg, and Volvo XC90. Notable exceptions were the BMW X3 and six-cylinder X5, which improved to average. American SUVs continue to produce mixed results. While the Mercury Mariner was the best of the group, the Ford Explorer, Mercury Mountaineer, and Jeep Grand Cherokee were among the least reliable. With the exception of the Chevrolet Tahoe and Suburban; the GMC Yukon and Yukon XL; and the Cadillac Escalade, the other American large SUVs have subpar reliability. The Japanese makers are split, with Toyota in the top spot and Nissan trailing at the bottom with one of the worst scores in our recent surveys. MINIVANS The Chrysler Town & Country and Dodge Grand Caravan dropped to below average in reliability, losing their recommendation. The Toyota Sienna is the only minivan that rates better than average. GM's minivans—the Buick Terraza, Chevrolet Uplander, Pontiac Montana SV6, and Saturn Relay—joined the Nissan Quest at the bottom of the list. PICKUPS The Toyota Tundra and the new Honda Ridgeline earned the top Ratings. The redesigned 2005 Toyota Tacoma V6 rated just average, but the four-cylinder Tacoma was above average. The Nissan Titan dropped from average and is now in the worst list. The Ford F-150 continued to score below average. BEST & WORST These 2006 models earned the highest and lowest Reliability Ratings, based on CR's 2005 reliability survey. Models marked with "(2005)" have been redesigned for 2006. Vehicles marked with an asterisk "*" indicate data is based on one model year only. Most reliable Least reliable Vehicles listed in scoring order, starting with the best score. Vehicles listed in scoring order, starting with the worst score. SMALL CARS: Toyota Echo, Honda Civic (2005), Toyota Prius, Honda Civic Hybrid (2005), Toyota Corolla, Subaru Impreza (non-turbo) SMALL CARS: Chevrolet Cobalt* SPORTY CARS/ CONVERTIBLES/COUPES: Honda S2000, Mazda MX-5 Miata (2005), Lexus SC430, Chevrolet Monte Carlo (2005) SPORTY CARS/ CONVERTIBLES/COUPES: Volkswagen New Beetle Convertible, Mercedes-Benz SL, Mercedes-Benz CLK, Ford Mustang (V6)*, Chevrolet Corvette*, Audi S4 SEDANS: Lexus GS300/GS430*, Infiniti M35/45*, Lexus IS300 (2005), Honda Accord Hybrid*, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord 4-cyl., Lexus LS430 SEDANS: Jaguar S-Type, Lincoln LS, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Saab 9-3, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, BMW 5-Series (V8), Audi A8, Chrysler 300 (V8)*, BMW 7 series WAGONS: Toyota Matrix WAGONS: Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Volkswagen Passat (V6) (2005), Volvo V50* MINIVANS: No models for this category. MINIVANS: Nissan Quest, Buick Terraza*, Chevrolet Uplander*, Pontiac Montana SV6*, Saturn Relay* SMALL SUVS: Toyota RAV4 (2005), Honda CR-V, Honda Element, Subaru Forester, Mercury Mariner*, Mitsubishi Outlander SMALL SUVS: Saturn Vue (AWD), Hyundai Tucson*, Kia Sportage* MIDSIZE SUVS: Lexus RX400h (Hybrid)*, Toyota Highlander, Toyota 4Runner (V8), Infiniti FX35 MIDSIZED SUVS: Volkswagen Touareg, Porsche Cayenne, Land Rover LR3*, Land Rover Range Rover*, Ford Explorer (2005), Mercury Mountaineer (2005), Jeep Grand Cherokee*, Ford Freestyle (AWD)*, Cadillac SRX, Volvo XC90, Chevrolet TrailBlazer (V8), GMC Envoy (V8), BMW X5 (V8) LARGE SUVS: Toyota Land Cruiser LARGE SUVS: Infiniti QX56, Nissan Armada, Hummer H2, Lincoln Navigator, Ford Expedition PICKUP TRUCKS: Honda Ridgeline*, Toyota Tundra PICKUP TRUCKS: Nissan Titan, Chevrolet Colorado (4WD), GMC Canyon (4WD) The full Ratings and recommendations for more than 200 vehicles, along with the latest information on thousands of other products and services, are available to ConsumerReports.org subscribers. 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If this is the case then why are GM's warranty number's so high that dealership's are actually having to turn warranty work down or the dealership pay's for it. The number's don't lie folks! Even if Toyota is having a few quality issue's, which really haven't surfaced like some people claim, you know that it won't last. The fact that they are slowing down production is proof that it will soon be a thing of the past. GM need's new management folk's and Rick Waggoner know's it is got to happen for them to recover. If I'm not mistaken didn't their stock drop when Kerkorian announced that he was no longer buying shares of the company? The share increase was based on Kerkorian eventually having controlling interest in the company and now who know's what will happen? There will probably be a proxy fight for the company and this will either make or break GM. Hell, at least Bill Ford was smart enough to realize he wasn't getting it done and moved over.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see what kind of situation GM is in. If you don't think losing 10.5 billion last year a bad financial situation then you are either very rich or don't have a clue. Last year wasn't the first for this either, it's slowly been growing. Do you watch the news at all? It's right there in black and white. This hasn't been any kind of secret by any means as to why GM and Ford are hurting badly! They admitted to what caused these problem's in both company's on national T.V.. I guess that's why I continue to even waste my time talking about the whole thing, and you call me single-minded and biased! lol You can call me "junior" or whatever else but it just proves my point. I can guarantee that I am a lot older than you think and have probably forgot more about the car business than you know. The one thing that I have learned over the year's is that change is inevitable and if you can't change with the time's then you get left behind. Time for you to play catch up and realize where the world is headed, because GM and Ford are just now understanding it.. They haven't figured anything out, we are getting brand new GM's ('07's) traded in every day with less than 5,000 miles on them because of the rattles, squeaks and engine noises! lol There might be a little show of profit right now, but unless they get someone in there that can think outside the box then they aren't going anywhere. Quantity over quality has never worked and it took them how many years to figure this out? It's pretty obvious that yellowjacket hates Toyota's, but for no other reason than that they are not from America. I know quite a few that are like that and we understand each other and agree to disagree. They know how Toyota got where they are and know why GM is in their current position, but they still hate them. No single-minded people here, but you might want to look in the mirror!

I don't go around posting spam, but is apparent that you are single-minded about GM. You seem to have all this good proof that I'm wrong, but you back down at the last moment when it comes to producing it on here. Show me something that proves GM is as good as you make it out to be. If you can prove me wrong then I will give credit where credit is due. I don't need to show proof on here, because it's everywhere you look. The internet, the news, the newspaper,etc... It's seems to me this whole thing started because I didn't agree with something you said or you didn't agree with something I said. You know I have the proof, so let's see your's! Show me in the number's where GM hasn't caused their own financial problems because of the reason's I stated earlier. Like I said earlier, I hope GM does recover and becomes the giant they once were, but let's be honest and admit what got them in this position. All Toyota did was make a better product when the public needed it, the rest is history. Ban me if you want, it just show's your true inability take an opinion that doesn't agree with your view's.

Hey, it's your own little world your living in so you can believe what you want. The truth obviously isn't part of it, but if it helps you sleep better at night then so be it. I'm not saying that Toyota doesn't have it's faults, but it's no where near GM's!