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This needs to be more that a rebadge of the Telluride or Palisade. It needs to have more length and be a true full sized SUV. Otherwise, a Platinum Ford Explorer beats it's butt.

It was smooth enough. Audi did a much better job with their I5, at least with acceleration....

Interesting. As long as they don't stick that sluggish Inline 5 in it.... Man, was our H3 slow. I ended up giving it to my wife. 

17 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Because there is some overlap in the segment.  A lot of people who buy Explorers never need the 3rd row, so a GC would be just fine.  However, Jeep customers who want a 3-row have no place to go.  Technically, different segments, but with so much overlap they are often counted as one.

I understand what you're saying. I think that FCA would be wise to place this in the next segment up. Think about taking the Cadillac CT6 and placing it with the BMW 5 or E Class, Benz. Dimensionally, it belongs in the next segment up. In that arena, the CT6 shows up as a good value. FCA should be doing the same thing. I'm sure that this will not be as big as the Expedition or Large Yukon/Tahoe, but it sure isn't going to be as short as the current Grand Cherokee . Maybe it'll be the size of the new offerings by Hyundai and Kia, which as an Expedition EL owner, IMO are too small. We'll see.....

How can the new Jeep play in the same segment when the additional row will add at least ten inches to the length.

3 hours ago, ccap41 said:

I don't see anything "brickish" either. The windshield is quite raked, the rear glass is also quite raked, the second(?) B pillar is angled, the grille into the lights is all flowing as well.

I think it would look so much better with a different grille and wheel setup. As it is, it's hideous to me. 

There are only a few vehicles I would still consider brick-like.

GM's Tahoe and siblings, Wrangler, Renegade, G Wagen and probably something else I'm missing but that's about it. Nothing is as squared off as those. 

Expedition/Navigator?

5 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Cherokee was a very successful in the right way Brick on Wheels SUV. I mean this in a positive way even with that crazy front grill, it is an attractive brick on wheels SUV.

Coo. Usually anything associated with "brick" is bad. I'll bet that the front end gets a tweak, prior to production. I hope that they build this. Thanks!

I wouldn't call this a "brick on wheels". It's pretty attractive. 

Look. I had a 2013 and sold it to my Brother in Law as I bought a 740 IL. I still miss the thing. Furthermore, I swear that this thing is faster than over six seconds on the 0-60. It also is very happy with regular unleaded gas. The engine is SO SMOOTH. I am ticked that they dropped the transmission slapstick for that round dial selector. Yes, the interior is a bit cheap. My biggest gripe about this story lies in the price. It may have a "As Tested" price of around 50, BUT do they ever discount this thing. I'll bet that your actual cost is closer to 40.

It would be nice to see a more youthful and athletic looking Avalon. Oh, yeah, it needs more than 275 HP. AWD would be a good idea as well.

That is great work.

Isn't it suppose to be larger than the current model? I am not seeing it in the photos but they can be misleading.

Like I've said 1000 times... it took Jeep almost

seven decades to put 4 doors on their best

selling product. It's a no-brainer.

YES!

yup, old al in living in the 70's still.

he is loyal to toyota now but nissan is the big dog in Nashville, aren't they?

This was the plan all along. who knows, in a year or so, they'll probably just drop the chrysler monniker. dodge and jeep, too.

the division where benz dumps its old or castoff technology, to maximize profits.

Caddy fan is right. Bowel Movement, i mean buick man, is sounding desperate.

GM's stock will continue to do a decent rise. Ford? not so sure. some folks are saying they cannot go any lower. i don't see much hope for them in the short term. At least Steve Wilson at channel 7 in detroit shamed mark into dropping the weekly corporate jet commute from florida to detroit. that is a drop in the bucket compared to where ford is hemmoraging. ran into a guy at the bank yesterday that took his buyout. left wixom and took the $$. in his early 50's and really still wants to work. sad.

you couldn't pry my daughters 2001 aztek out of her hands.

she'll wear this out and buy another one on the used market. as long as she can find good used ones, she will continue to drive an aztek. i have driven the aztek, its pretty neat.

the VW looks a little better than this. top down? not bad. but, a convertible should look good with the top up as well. and, yes, drop the stupid ribbing on the hood.

ditto, kind of young for that job.

as good as their response is, they should have figured those things out before the launch.

i hate buying a car, only to have the flaws fixed in the next model year. what do they expect me to do, trade it in after a year? who would want my used XXXX, when the next model year has the much needed improvements.

the guy is probably pissed because he can't buy one. i miss my ext. i'll probably dish off the hummer to my wife and get another ext. "hogging valuable parking spaces".... it's a pretty darn good use of a space, if you ask me.

different strokes...........

i like wheels but those just do not fit.

There may not be much of a difference in the way they look, but I guarantee that one of the two will end up looking something like this in an accident.

It's actually kind of interesting, because my Chinese architecture history professor (who is from China originally) always tells us that the reason Chinese civilization declined was because they considered themselves the center of the universe and therefore never opened themselves up to outside ideas.  Japan, on the other hand, was stuck on a rocky island with few natural resources, so they had innovate in order to survive and flourish.

But he also said that the Japanese are known for taking existing ideas and perfecting them.  Example; they took the idea of the Chinese garden and perfected it into this harmonius, all-encompassing space of meditation, whereas the Chinese gardens were more focused on wowing people with color and decoration not unlike what Disneyland does here in the US.

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no, as a matter of fact, someone posted a video of a smart car in a high speed crackup. it fares pretty well due to the egg design. cannot crack it.

would love to see the general kick this guys butt. he didn't care about the american worker. he only cared about manipulating the situation for a profit. he was euphoric with the thought of the nissan deal pushing his stock portfolio through the roof. what an old fool. wipe him out, general.

Yeah changing the name from T100 absolves it.

AND, the next Tundra is so screwed up, Toyota is already pulling production from the line, before they even start the line.

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remember all the crap that hit the fan when toyota introduced the tacoma?

they were the laughing stock because they did not do market research. at the time tacoma, washington, the city they named the truck for was considered a hole. a pit. lots of dope, hookers and the like. toyota isn't anywhere near perfect.