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Wow, so your worried about immoral issues of a past marraige but something as important as abortion is a non-issue for you??? I'm speechless! These also are the comments that have me VERY worried about humanity in our country's future.

Not everyone has the same priority of values that you do, so you really shouldn't be speechless. I have an opinion on abortion, however it did not affect my vote. I do not feel the national government should be making that decision.

The more I see the IS, the less I like it. I used to think it looked kind of sporty, but I just don't see it anymore. The aftermarket bits don't help it much.

Dumbf@#kistan

Oh now that's just wrong, lol.

We cannot afford a loss like this again. Just wait you can dance for a while folks. Soon Obama will get in the office and the $h! will hit the fan. His nice words, couldn't hide the truth for me and many Americans. I feel bad for all that got hood-winked. As Americans we will get through this and hope for a better turnout in 2010 and 2012.

"We"? Are you one of those 'vote-based-on-party' folks?

One downside I see to Obama being elected is that there won't be any more hilarious SNL skits for at least the next 4 years. I really do hope Palin runs in 2012, because it will give me something to look forward to.

What did you honestly expect him to say other than what he did? Even if he feels that we're doomed because Obama was elected, he's not going to stand up there and say so, making himself looking like a jackass.

I fully understand that, believe me.

Oddly, my boss, who is a big-time Republican regardless of candidate (and talks about it at work loudly even though almost everyone here voted for Obama) hasn't shown up this morning....

Never has a Delawarean been a Vice President. Delaware's own Joe Biden.

My favorite Joe, Joe Biden. If you pull this string he talks for 45 minutes!

Well, we fought the good fight. McCain did a damn fine job giving that every single card was stacked against the Republicans this time around.

I hope Obama has the foresight to not implement all the silly economic ideas that he has as they will make our recession worse... if he must implement them he should slowly stagger their implementation and wait out our current recession.

That being said, i still hold out some hope that perhaps he truly will act in a bi-partisan fashion... but its getting harder to delude myself of this notion. I also hope that he respects the Constitution and does not disregard the document that our country was built on and does not eliminate the rule of law so central to our countries greatness. No man is greater than another under the eyes of the law... as of today... hopefully it stays like that.

Oh well,

Congrats to Obama and all his supporters.

Here's to a reformed libertarianesque Republican party for 2012!

McCain could have won this election if he hadn't run a horrible campaign. The Republicans could have won had they brought forth a better candidate. I have no doubt Bush helped Obama win, but the Republicans did themselves no favors. I'm surprised the margin of victory was only 7+ million.

Curious, who do you think would more closely follow the constitution when making decisions, Obama or McCain? And why?

I argue Obama. In brief, McCain has no formal education in politics or law, Obama has both. Obama lectured constitutional law for 12 years, teaching three courses per year and invited several times to become full-tenure at the law school. He is less tainted by the agendas and politics than McCain is, but still has Biden for the wealth of senate and government experience.

Damn near......you just wait.

I'd LOVE to revisit this conversation four years from now.....'cause you know we'll all be on here at that time....

McCain conceded the election, congratulated Obama, and offered his support in the future. He didn't get up on the podium and say "You'll see! You're all screwed!" So why are his supporters acting that way? Oh that's right, the anonymity of the Internet! FTW! I bet McCain logs on to a bunch of forums under the alias "warhero08" and just bashes Obama left and right and condemns the future. In fact, he might even be a member on this very forum!!

Or not.

Amazing that someone with no experience, no accomplishments, a racist mindset and a laundry list of subversives & radicals could actually swing this.

Thousands of empty-headed idiots out there waving their arms to the rock star, the Messiah, to save them, to give them something they haven't earned and break the back of this country. You libs wanted "change", get ready to pay for it, and in more ways that one. Me, I'm switching to Financial Self-Preservation Mode starting tomorrow, and I recommend you all do the same.

Isn't that enough of that already?

You honestly think the world is coming to an end because YESbama got elected?

Listening to McCain's concession speech right now. That happened quick, I just got home from class.

BO, if put thru the standard background check for federal security clearance, would likely fail.

Oh for sure, he's a terrorist after all.

I voted by mail a couple weekends ago...very easy and relaxed way to do it..it was a long ballot, lots of propositions and judges for re-election, it gave me time to research everyone online and figure out which incumbents, etc to vote against..

+1

I dropped my ballot off at one of the drop-off locations, although I could have mailed it too. Very easy. Lines should be a thing of a past by next election I would assume.

then you should be horrified that Obama is pro-choice.

Why should I be horrified of that? That was a non-issue for me and had no bearing on which way I voted.

I see you left out many connections in Obama's past, yes many we've heard over and over about... and those have fully to do with his political career. Rezko hooked em up with a heck of a deal on a home and property. The fact that someone who's says they believe in this country and then listens to Rev. Wright for the past 20 years really has me scratching my head. But neither of those are even the reason's I'm not voting for him.

Obama and McCain have both had less-than-scrupulous dealings in the past, let's just call it even.

On a side note, why did the dem's put Biden in hiding????

Biden is out campaigning, but hasn't received much air time or any interviews. They probably figure he can't really do much to help in an interview but he could probably do harm. Sort of like how the Republicans have kept Bush in hiding the entire race.

I can't really disagree with the idea of a gas tax, although I don't know what kinds of problems it could cause. I have thought it would be a good idea in the past.

With gas now close to $2, I don't think people will mind, as long as they know the revenue is being used for a purpose that will ultimately benefit them.

Speechless. 47% decline. It almost leaves me sick to my stomach.

I dunno man. Obama was a n00b to the scene who has run a top notch organization that took out the Clintons and looks likely to take out McCain.

Let me put it this way. If Hillary has won the nomination instead, do you think McCain would have run his campaign differently or do you think we'd be sitting here discussing Hilz's nutcase preacher/husband/fellow board members/less than savory old lawschool friends?

Do you think McCain would have won against Hillary running the same campaign against her as he has against Obama?

Since I think Hillary would have an easier time getting elected than Obama has <no muslim/terrrorist/commie/big ears slurs to throw about and Palin would have been neutralized>, what does that say McCain's leadership?

Hmm, I wonder what it would have been like had Hillary won the nomination......

I think McCain would have definitely ran a different campaign. Like you said, there would be no youth/inexperience/Muslim attacks. The only thing that may have stayed the same is the "American Hero" thing. Would he have even selected the same running mate? Perhaps not.

Do you think Hilary would have asked Obama to be her running mate, had she won? And if so, do you think he would have accepted?

For that matter, I wonder how the polls and forecasts would be right now if Hillary was the running mate and not Biden.

Gosh, it must be so much fun being a political analyst, hehe.

Obama knows how to give a good speech. But so does McCain. No Politician these days is going to get up on a post and give specific details and a step by step guide on how they plan to go about each issue. They speak at an executive level, which means they define overall goals, not how tasks will be accomplished and their details.

That being said. From everything I've seen, and reading the candidate's websites, Obama is far more detailed in how he will approach each issue than McCain is.

I think that in reality a candidate's commonness isn't much of a predictor of success.

I agree. And I really don't care too much how common they are either.

apparently you haven't

Obama's is very shady (what little bit of it we know, still don't know why he's going to such lengths to keep the other half hidden)

I have researched both, focusing mostly on their backgrounds and where they stand on issues. You assert that McCain worked harder to get where he is and is a "common man", and that we know little of Obama.

I will make the argument that Obama has worked significantly harder than McCain to get to where he is.

McCain was insubordinate in the Naval academy and graduated at the bottom of his class. He was a sub-par pilot, and crashed a total of 3 planes (plus 2 other planes that were not his fault). His father and grandpa having distinguished positions in the Navy undoubtedly helped him achieve his goals. After being captured in Hanoi, the only reason he received preferential and medical treatment, very possibly sparing his life, was because of his father's position in the Navy.

Don't get me wrong, when I first started researching the candidates, and having read about McCain and his time as a POW, I came away in awe, leaning towards voting for him and thinking of how honorable and respectable he was because of that. Seeing that photo of McCain being pulled out of his jet by hostiles certainly elicits strong emotions, as it must have in every American's heart. Here is a real war hero, honorable, who has seen the absolute worst, and came out fighting. Thankfully I am a very logical person and I don't let these strong patriotic emotions cloud my judgment. One thing I don't particularly like is how McCain brings up his time as POW, either directly or indirectly, and tries to use it to gain sympathy from listeners.

After the Navy, McCain's first job was provided to him by his wealthy father-in-law, and his successful run for US Senate in '82 is due in large part to financial backing from his wife's side of the family. Many political analysts believe McCain would not have been elected, at least in '82, without that financial backing. Today, McCain is one of the wealthiest senators due to his wife's stake in the family's Anheuser-Busch beer distributorship.

Speaking of "shady characters", you need look no further than McCain's marital status. You probably already read about it, McCain asked Cindy to marry him before he was legally divorced from Carol. And apparently McCain's first marriage children weren't too happy about it. I know Clinton's record, as FOG brought up, is absolutely no better, but he isn't running for President, and if he could I doubt he would win because of the controversy and the affair.

As far as Obama's life, which opponents like to think is shrouded in mystery. He was raised by his mom and grandparents, moved around a lot, including some time during his pre-teen years in Indonesia. He attended Occidental college and then Columbia University, majored in political science, graduating with a BA degree. For the next 8 years or so he had various jobs, including working at Business International Corp, working at the Public Interest Research Group in New York State, working as the director of Developing Communities Project, and working as a consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation.

In '88 he got into Harvard. He was selected at the end of his first year, based on his grades and a writing competition, as an editor of the Harvard Law Review, which is the oldest and one of the most cited law reviews in the United States. In his 2nd year, he was elected President of the the Law Review. During the summer of '89, he worked as an associate at the law firm of Sidley & Austin, one of the oldest law firms in the world and where he met his future wife who was also an associate. Obama graduated with a Juris Doctor "magna cum laude" from Harvard, and then was recruited by the University of Chicago Law School. There he taught and lectured in constitutional law for 12 years. Concurrently from 1993 to 2004 he worked with the Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland attorney law firm. Also during that time he served on the board of directors of a number of organizations.

Obama didn't have anyone pulling him along through his life, he didn't have a dad, or financial backing. Yet he has accomplished more in his life than many of us would ever dream of.

These are of course extremely summarized versions of McCain and Obama's biographies, but the information, plenty of it, is out there and very easy to find. Obama is not some unknown shady character who might turn out to be the anti-christ or a terrorist. This FUD that has been spread around about him is ridiculous.

He has lived the "Common man" life throughout his life. He worked hard to get where he is now. I could not imagine going through what he did for 5 of those years in the service. What he has worked hard for his whole life, it was Obama wants to take away after doing all of that hard work. Obama has only done things for his own personal agenda throughout his career. I have reseached each candidate throuroghly and through the past record of each and that is why I chose who I chose to vote for. I'm not voting McCain because somebody told me to or because I'm a particular party member. I started out with this with a open mind to both candidates.

It doesn't sound you've researched the past record of each candidate at all.

He will not spread the wealth in that direction. At this point he is telling eveyone what they want to hear to get elected. Fact of the matter is, Congress makes the laws. 80% of what Obama says, he will have no contol over.

Don't fall into his "marketing" propoganda. He reminds me of Toyota.

Keep in mind, Obama and the Dems are very pro-Union

Both sides actually. Toyota's Marketing Department could learn a lot from American politics in general.

There are fanatical and/or brainwashed supporters on both sides.

Obama talks a lot about education, and obviously this country needs it.

But doesn't it seem like a conflict of interests, when such stupid people are voting for a candidate who is going to put their stupidity at risk?

McCain has...

Cadillac CTS's ('04 and an '07)

Lincoln Town Car '00

Lexus RX (year not known)

Volkswagon Bug (year not known)

Toyota Prius (for Megan McCain year not known)

2007 Ford Pickup

I was just looking at your new sig and I realized something. If you photograph McCain from a low angle, it almost looks like he can wave normally..... almost. Heh.

Anybody know what all cars Obama and his wife owns? I am curious now.

Yet he's the candidate who understands what the "common man" is going through?

What are you talking about, that's only like one vehicle per house!

You shouldn't shown up with an Escalade sitting on 30" rims.

Will loose any exciting cars left with Obama. McCain won't be alot better.

How do you figure? As long as there is consumer demand for exciting cars, they will remain available. They will just have to become more efficient. The true character of a sports car lies in its efficiency anyway, not its excess. Cars like the Camaro, Challenger and Mustang will have to change with the times. They will get smaller and lighter, which is a good thing.

I agree, the GT-R is priced against the Z06 and they are closer in power/performance. The V-spec will likely 1-up the ZR-1 since the base GT-R is still close to the ZR-1.

Then there is the V10 Lexus LF-A, which might be good, but I suspect it wasn't as fast as either of these cars so they delayed it.

The LF-A, and NSX for that matter, aren't necessarily direct competition to these cars. They will both be much more expensive and luxury-oriented. They may or may not be as fast and it won't be the end of the world if they aren't. Lexus has more to worry about the performance of the NSX, and matching or exceeding it, while keeping it as "luxury" as a Lexus should be. Or something like that.