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Actually, It's Good To Be is on E!, smart guy.....

They would NEVER sell those in the U.S. Wannabe puritan bastards out here. I heard Aussies are pretty vulgar in speech overall, is that true?

MTV is a majorly scummy influence on their target demographic. I really don't like there being all these shows about overcompensating snotball rich people. Super Sweet 16, Fabulous Life, It's Good To Be, etc.....ALL poison. Just bad for average people. While I want children eventually, they aren't watching this crap.

I'm bound to bump into SOMETHING today, so I'll use this post as a place holder until then.

I think we're gonna see a lot of similar anecdotes related to the concept of "Turbo" throughout this thread..... Anyway, one more, because I got a LONG day ahead of me.... -I lived in a GM family. I came into this world with mom having a Camaro, pops never having owned anything but Chevy vans, my one uncle having a Caprice (the coupe dubbed a "glass house" in street circles), one aunt with a Cutlass Supreme, another with a Firebird, and my grandpa with a Chevy Cheyene truck. Plus neighbors owned them and it was most of what I saw on the street. So GM was kinda my basis for what was right with the car world, how cars looked, and all that good stuff and great taste too. Anyway, while that's not a bad thing, the following was: -The Chevy Monza, Pontiac Sunbird, Olds Firenza and such were just cool to me. I knew the Cavalier and other J-cars that came in the 80s were the replacements. But I figured that the Corvair was kinda the first-generation Monza (because of the "monza" badge on them)...and ironically enough, didn't know that Monza actually replaced Vega and was on the same chassis. -And back on the looks thing: Because of the Buick LeSabre and Olds Delta 88 coupes, I was looking for the Chevy and Pontiac versions....again, didn't understand the size and chassis thing, so I thought the Beretta and GP of that time period (1988) were exactly the same as the H-bodies. This would also apply to the Cadillac Seville. I thought the first version that was based on X-bodies was actually related to the shorter A-bodies that looked like it. Plus the E-body third gen of the late 80s made me think it was on the same architecture as the Park Avenue and Ninety Eight. Almost forgot to point out that I thought the X-car Chevy Citation and Pontiac Phoenix fastbacks of the 80s were twins of the late 70s A-body Buick Century and Olds Cutlass Salon. Malibu coupe equaled Bonneville coupe twin. I even thought the Fiero was Pontiac's answer to the Corvette. Last but not least, because of the relation thing, I thought the late 60s Riviera and Toronado were badge-engineered Camaros and Firebirds. GM had me all screwed up, majorly....

You were thinking of stuff like THAT as a KID?

Shirts from companies that cater to hipsters run small...it's Urban Outfitters syndrome. Now you know how we grown men feel.

Who knows where this topic may go, but let's play with it anyway.... When it came to cars and how I looked at them, these were the following weird thoughts that came to mind: -Until at least 88, I didn't understand that new cars replaced older versions of the same nameplate. I basically figured all these different looks of cars were still being built alongside one another. For instance: The Nissan Hardbody came out in 1986. I thought it was a bigger truck, or some truck made of different metal or something. I figured the older version was still available new at the dealer and that you still had a choice. I also thought the first-gen F-body was the "coupe." the second-gen was the "hatchback," and the then-new third-gen was the "station wagon." I simply didn't understand the concept of model years yet. -I thought that anything with a spoiler was a turbo car and was fast. I used to call wings "that turbo thing on the back." I got this from the Turbo Trans Am commercial, where the back of the spoiler had a "Turbo" decal. -If it didn't have the name or logo of the make on the car, I was struggling to guess who the hell made the car: The Thunderbird could easily have been built by Volvo Didn't know who the hell made Rivieras or Camaros -Toyota used to have a "T" logo, where the bottom portion of it looked like Pontiac's arrowhead...so in turn, when I saw a Hilux, I once thought it was a Pontiac truck. -Because of the badge-engineering being heavily practiced by American car companies, it made me think that cars that looked similar were actually twins, and therefore related. This caused me to think that the Yugo and the Volkswagen A1 Rabbit were the same car. As well as the Toyota Tercel wagon and Honda Civic wagon, both of which had similar greenhouses. Let me not get started on the Fiero GT and CRX. Or the 86 models of the Accord fastback, Celica, Impulse (which I once thought was a Honda), and 200SX. Or Nissan Hardbody and GM's S-10/S-15 for that matter. Ah, what the hell, include Hyundai's Excel sedan looking like the Chevy Spectrum/Isuzu I-Mark, and the hatch (before the Precis came out) makng me think of the Mirage... -Had no idea how the hell drive wheels worked. Plus I used to read Car Craft. Not only did this have me thinking anything with wheelie bars, big Mickey Thompson tires in the rear, and a jacked-up rear end was fast, but also had me thinking that all cars were either rear-drive of 4wd. It took me getting into the RC car game in '90 to see what was what. -I once thought the first gen Prelude was simply a Civic coupe. And that the Accord hatch was an elongated Civic. -Again, because of similar styling and badge engineering, I once thought of certain cars to all be the same size, just with different styling. This had me thinking, for example, the rear doors of the 84 X-body Skylark, A-body Century, and G-body Regal were all interchangeable. -Styling simply melded in my mind for the most part....similar greenhouses had me thinking the Porsche 924/944 was actually a Datsun (because its greenhouse reminded me of a 310GX and F10). This also applied to the first RX-7 making me think Camaro, and second gen RX-7 (FC3S) making me think Porsche 928 (while I wasn't far off, still...). More later, because I have a million of 'em...it's your turn.

That's a GM? Doesn't look like any I've ever seen...

<for Ocnblu <one I always liked. The Cavalier's Aussie fraternal twin, the Holden Camira:

-2nd generation Paseo (haven't seen one in a LONG time) -06 WRX STi (interesting front end) -early 80s BOF Park Avenue 2-dr. -kitted/dropped current-gen Altima (very beautiful looking, as I HATE stock Altimas)

It wasn't missed, it was avoided on purpose....

Look, it's Ben Affleck and Ashton Kutcher.

Oops. Wrong month...

<just kidding

A wagon is still a car, my friend....nver to be confused with SUVs or vans....

While looking for more, found a whole page of pics that are too small and numberous to go crazy enlarging, imageshacking, and posting: http://www.pestalozzi.net/sb/coming/

Yup, and that one needs some Jordans or some Stacy Adams or something.

Part of the Saab/Fiat Group joint venture, the Lancia Thema estate:

Imagine ever finding the following THIS clean: The Americans need to get their wagon bars back up....quit leaving it to the import companies.

Too bad that's only available in the REST of the world... :( Ford should drum up a 500 wagon too (of course that space is taken by the Freestyle for now)

Saw a Ford LTD (without these rims of course) the other day:

This is similar to my LeMans, but it's a Bonneville: