G. David Felt

SWEET Love this!

Please know what you're talking about if you're going to go off on a rant.

Where on Earth are you getting that the hybrid system will add 600-1000 pounds?

Nickel Metal Hydride (NiMH) do not have a memory. You're thinking of Nickel Cadmium batteries. Hybrid batteries in other cars have lasted well over 100K miles(I've heard as much as 200K miles).

The NiMH are the most enviromentally-friendly battery type and the hybrid batteries can be recycled.

Rant Hardly a rant, but we are in disagreement. HiMH does get memory far more than Lithum Ion and you are right that Cadmium is worse with memory. The computer industry has had plenty of issues with memory on HiMH. Plus the SUV's are going to require much bigger battery packs than the little Toyota's. Yes is might not be 600-1000lbs, but it will be still a ton of weight in comparison to fuel cell's or just advancing the basic gas engine. Western Washington University took the best parts from all the various makers and built a 2 person car that got 100 miles per gallon proving that Gas engines could do more and they felt this could be done for trucks not just cars.

Still Battery production does creat a host of new Toxic by products. Not nearly as friendly as one would think and the recycled batteries still ends up leaving toxins. You can recycle just about anything but that does not mean it is better to do so.

We choose to disagree, I still do not believe that Hybrids are the right solution. For a poor family on $35,000 a year, they can still survive much easier on a Dodge Neon or Chevy Cavalier than on a Over priced Toyota Prius.

IMO

<_< I hope some people actually bring out some original Clean direction. The current Pontiacs really suck. Everything is pointy and Fuggly except for the Soltices. Pontiac really needs a clean break, no retro and a move in the right Direction. Not sure what that would be, but someone must have a feel for a passion driven auto. I hope to see some. :P Course before anyone says why not draw one, I have no drawing talents at all except for maybe stick figures. :lol:

NOT IMPRESSED! We add at least 600 to maybe 1000lbs more weight, Create a TON of Toxic waste on a bunch of batteries that creates a memory and must be replaced. The least they could have done is gone beyond everyone and use Lithiom Ion Batteries instead.

WHY WHY WHY Does everyone think a Hybrid is so much better for the Enviornment? People seem to continue to forget about all the toxic waste created by Battery production and the added Electrical components.

So we use less Oil but still produce plenty of new Toxic byproducts. Again, people are so easily fooled by marketing and political BULL&#036;h&#33;!

Ahhhh... But even the polished aluminums on my cars shine more than those... Hmmm.. I dunno.

I like it, although I'm usually not a fan of conservative.. But on a cash cow like this I can see why Chevy would need to appeal to ALL people...

The only disadvantage to the design IMO is that it might age TOO fast and GM will have to keep on top of it with facelifts... IMO, the Impala, which shares the same new 'clean' Chevrolet look, looks EXCELLENT and aggressive in LTZ/SS form but cheap and dated/not substantial in base form.... I'm just woried that the base models of the new 900's will look the same way.

You can still tell that these are Zarella era GM all the way, eventhough they ARE class leading and VERY nice!

Actually I believe those are the Brushed Aluminum wheels, I saw those same wheels on a new Tahoe at the dealership today and the paperwork said Brushed. The Polished rims were much more shinny than that and of course the Chrome ones just shine like the sun. IMO

This new Avalanche I am sure is well built, but SAD that it lost it's edge. This just looks like they took a Tahoe and cut off the back to add a bed. Nothing Special anymore.

GM, you need to be differant for each model, stop this rubber stamping of Auto's.

I am a sad Panda, that is so UGLY! I love the look of my 94 SLT GMC Suburban, but that is UGLY. The older Yukon and Denali that I did not care much for is SO WAY MUCH BETTER LOOKING!

I truly hope it looks better in person.

The loss of American jobs has been going on for decades and the Bush administration is no different.

And for those that feel that a democrat can do better well Clinton didn't do anything to stop the unfair trade practices of other countries either.

Both parties have failed the american worker!

Large media both the Clinton News Network and Faux News have failed to promote the American side of Globalization.

When we Americans finally decide to put both parties out of work then maybe we can see some action in Washington.

And what is so wrong with the govt saying that we will give the "same help" as the Japanese govt gives their manufactors?

Amazing how we are back to the same old Nixon Watergate Corruption under our current administration. Reality is the Republicans call themselves conservative yet are the worst liberal spenders around. The Democrates call themselves Liberal and yet are very conservative and have worked hard for balanced budget.

Reality is a need for balance between the two parties as history has proven when one or the other controlles all things in the government things get out of balance.

Much the same way in the auto industry. Things have been out of balance and are only now coming into balance. Quality of auto's as proven with the recent reviews of the Buick and large SUV's.

We do not need our government bailing out companies. As a free market, there needs to be a consolidation of airplane companies and auto plants. The unions served their need in the early 1900's but have become lazy and corrupt over the years. The exec's have also become lazy and corrupt as well.

At this point we need new leadership or a change in the current leadership to get the companies in a competitive situation and deal with the debt of each company. Changing the unions from pension to 401K and going away from the current union contracts will be a big change and saving pin as to if Ford and GM can survive the oncoming 5 years and there after.

Here is what I posted in the impala thread:

We'll I have to say that for all the positive comments on the Impala and Malibu, I have had the complete 180 degree experiance with these two Auto's.

On a 2 week business trip in CA, 1st week was in Sacramento and then I drove down to San Jose for the second week.

1st auto I got at the rental lot was an Impala, had 2480 miiles on the speedo. Engine, for a v6 has plenty of horsepower and Torque for get up and go getting on the freeway. 1st thing I noticed after getting on the freeway was how noisy the auto was, the freeway noise was terrible. Discovered that the suspension was very soft and seemed to not handle bumps or potholes well.

Interior was totally Cheap plastic looking and like stated, the interior color light grey shows everything, dirt, dust etc. Not a good color for a rental auto.

We'll this car got taken back via tow truck as it ended up dying on me and not willing to start again. Just like the complete electrical system shorted out. You get nothing, no lights, no turn over, it was dead.

The rental company brought me out a replacement auto, a brand new Malibu with 148 miles on the Speedo.

Same v6 with plenty of get up and go, but cheap plastic interior with light grey interior again. Noticed on the drive down to San Jose, The front passenger door had this noise like a rock rolling back and forth. Thought it was something in the door pocket. Checked it and there was nothing there. Had a passenger in the auto and they said it was in the door. So a noise that is driving me nuts.

2nd thing noticed. At 6'6" I have to have the seat all the way back. that leaves about 3 inches between the back of my seat and the back seat. NO ONE can sit behind me. What a poor design of interior space.

3rd noticed issue. Had 2 other people with me in the auto and went slowly over a parking lot speed bump and the exhaust system scraped as the auto bottomed out on the speed bump.

4th issue noticed, Trunk side carpet wall was not attached to wall seemed to be cut short so that it had a 1inch gap. Bottom board sits on 2 little plastic slots and they did not hold in place already sagging into the spare tire.

5th issue, suspension spongy and over all road noise very loud.

My list could go on, as a new auto. This is not an impressive auto. Chevy needs to build some replacement auto's that are much higher in quality both inside and out.

Very disappointed.

Highlight was I stopped at the Chevy Dealership and WOW what an Awesome New Tahoe. That is what every auto, truck and SUV should be like!

We'll I have to say that for all the positive comments on the Impala and Malibu, I have had the complete 180 degree experiance with these two Auto's. On a 2 week business trip in CA, 1st week was in Sacramento and then I drove down to San Jose for the second week. 1st auto I got at the rental lot was an Impala, had 2480 miiles on the speedo. Engine, for a v6 has plenty of horsepower and Torque for get up and go getting on the freeway. 1st thing I noticed after getting on the freeway was how noisy the auto was, the freeway noise was terrible. Discovered that the suspension was very soft and seemed to not handle bumps or potholes well. Interior was totally Cheap plastic looking and like stated, the interior color light grey shows everything, dirt, dust etc. Not a good color for a rental auto. We'll this car got taken back via tow truck as it ended up dying on me and not willing to start again. Just like the complete electrical system shorted out. You get nothing, no lights, no turn over, it was dead. The rental company brought me out a replacement auto, a brand new Malibu with 148 miles on the Speedo. Same v6 with plenty of get up and go, but cheap plastic interior with light grey interior again. Noticed on the drive down to San Jose, The front passenger door had this noise like a rock rolling back and forth. Thought it was something in the door pocket. Checked it and there was nothing there. Had a passenger in the auto and they said it was in the door. So a noise that is driving me nuts. 2nd thing noticed. At 6'6" I have to have the seat all the way back. that leaves about 3 inches between the back of my seat and the back seat. NO ONE can sit behind me. What a poor design of interior space. 3rd noticed issue. Had 2 other people with me in the auto and went slowly over a parking lot speed bump and the exhaust system scraped as the auto bottomed out on the speed bump. 4th issue noticed, Trunk side carpet wall was not attached to wall seemed to be cut short so that it had a 1inch gap. Bottom board sits on 2 little plastic slots and they did not hold in place already sagging into the spare tire. 5th issue, suspension spongy and over all road noise very loud. My list could go on, as a new auto. This is not an impressive auto. Chevy needs to build some replacement auto's that are much higher in quality both inside and out. Very disappointed. :angry: Highlight B) was I stopped at the Chevy Dealership and WOW what an Awesome New Tahoe. That is what every auto, truck and SUV should be like! :D

This is FUGGLY!

B) Sweet, you know this is gonna be pretty close to what it really will look like when it comes out. Thanks for a Awesome job well done in a hurry.

Keep in mind while the V6 will have HP, most ricer cars have high horsepower with anemic Torque, meaning they can not tow crap.

The UV8 could still have say 350 detuned HP and a but load of Torque. 450 or so. My thoughts on that. A awesome towing motor.

    That's it? this is what we have been waiting for? if you guys think this exact car will be built you better wake up, GM did it again come out with a beautiful concept that can't be built, here why

1.look at the steering wheel, where do you suppose the air bag will go? and how nice when the CAMARO emblem kissed your forehead when it deploys.

2. over 79" wide? again i don't think so, that the same as the full size p/u

3. Gauges that you can't read

4. non existant bumpers

5. mirrors that are pretty much useless

6. 21/22" wheels on a factory car

i fully realize this is a concept, but i am wandering what will be left of it when it comes to production, i have owned 5 f-cars over the year, but it looks like my next one will be a Challenger.

Again GM is late to the party.

have a nice day.

I totally disagree with you. In a day when interior Room for us big americans is needed and control, having a wide low slung hot rod of a car is exactly what america wants. Sounds like you been eating to much Rice burner auto crap.

The Width is fine, total control on thr road. I have yet to see many ricer cars or some Europeans that have bumpers, adding that would really be a step back wards. Built into the body like this is just fine. Wheels, why not? nothing wrong with large rims. We know they will have smaller rims on less powerful Camaro's but on the SS this is the right thing to do.

B)

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I get tired of people always dumping on people in California. I live in San Jose just south of San Francisco and not everyone here are tree hugging hippies that drive Prius'. I hardly ever see those ugly things anyways the point is that GM has a perception problem. There alot of my friends that love GM products. One of my friends has 96 GMC Jimmy, another a '01 Silverado. My friends dad bought a Ford and hated it so he bought another Silverado and all his kids drive Chevys. Most people who drive GM's love them but you have to get them to drive them. Most people don't know that there Prius' won't get the gas millage that they claim they drive cause they stand out and make a statement. That is what GM cars need to do in future need to make a statement that you are well off and educated and that you drive the best car money can buy. right now they stand for people who are not that well educated are Neo-conservative Bush lovers and until that "Perception" changes GM will never be sucessful. Thats why there aren't that many GM's on west coast.

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I totally agree up to the last 3 statements, Seattle does not have many Hybrids, out of my office here, there are 3 honda's, 1 Toyota lover that has both the Prius and Highlander Hybred and all the rest in the office have GM, Ford or Jeep. Trucks / SUV's which make up 38 of the 42 people working here. Seattle sells tons of these rides. Chris who owns the Toyota Hybreds hates his Highlander as he only gets 16 to 17 miles to the gallon not the proclaimed 22. As he told me yesterday, Until the auto warms up, the engine is used all the time. While AC is no longer required of the engine, the Heater is, so during cold temps if you have the heater on then the engine is on all the time. So for his 10 mile communte to work, the vehicle never gets warmed up in time to eve use the Hybred system as designed. He has gotten close to 20 on the couple long road trips he has taken but over all he leaves it at home more and more now driving just the prius and is thinking of dumping the Highlander in the spring time. :P

Just Proves Toyota does not have the ultimate products.

Yes while we tease each other about being tree hugging, Granola munching Hippies, most of us just enjoy playing in the woods splashing the mud and enjoying life. :D

No, go look at the SRX. chrome would be overkill there. the glass wouldn't be flush then with the body. 

For the same reason the B pillar is blacked out, they trying to make the escalade look less trucky and more sleek.
if anything i would get rid of the chrome on the door. that makes the chrome below the front 2 windows look less out of place.

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I totally Agree with dumping the Chrome from the windows. I also would dump the Chrome from the Rearview mirrors and the big ugly Chrome around the Emblem on the back door.

Sleek and Elegant, not Gaudy and Pimp Mobil is what the Caddy should be about! <_<

B) Nice for sure, but still too watered down for A&S. Hopefully it will look better in person on the lot than in pictures. :)

Are you people retarted?????
Ill put a picture into your mind that you dont think about.

Trickle down effect.

I guy that works a GM goes to a best buy and buys a 42 inch tv and surround sound and leaves in his truck (because he can afford it with out going in to debt).

You dont see what went on there did you!

Best buy makes money from peole buying stuff right. If the "middle class" guy that worked at GM dissapears. This will happen, best buy's sales get fewer and become in "giving credit hell". meaning that the people now buying there stuff don't have enough money to pay them off. So in turn that best buy goes in the red then shuts down. The people that maintain the place like heating and cooling lose there acount there. less money since they lost that chain. They go out of bussiness. more unemployeed people.

lets face it, unless you own or are very high in the ladder at your job your not getting $80,000 and benifits to hang doors on a car for 8 hours a day.

In detroit that exact senerio is happening right now.

The guy that worked on heating and cooling for bestbuy doesnt have the money now so he doesnt get pizza on fridays now and that pizza business loses money and then shuts down.

For real example try a city in mid michigan. 70% of the city worked at a Paper mill. The paper mill shut down since it lost its major acoount with a newspaper company. The 70% of the town didn't have money so every thing went chap. 11 from the Mcdonalds to to mejiers.

It wont happen that fast but if you take michigans number one job source the entire state will crumble. And will take out other states as well.

Out in Arizona Was A Bolt making bussines that had 123,000 full time workers. when Ford Canceled there contract 123,000 people lost there jobs.

AND MORE THAN 5% WILL IMPACT FROM GM OR FORD CLOSING. O.C.

(Even CD/BP might hurt since he wont have new cars to take pictures of and sell)

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WRONG, you are WRONG.

Reality Check in this diverse WTO, yes there will be a few states hurt by GM or Ford going out of business, but over all most people will only see it as a small 1/100th of GDP or Gross Domestic Product.

I know this as Seattle my City was Dependant on Boeing and Logging and with every Boom came a bust later on. On I5 there was a famous sign "The last person leaving Seattle Turn out the lights!"

Due to Diversification, this state only rely's on the Logging industry and the airplane industry for 5% of it's employement. Yes it would hurt if 100% of those two business closed down, but the state would still survive. People found other training and jobs to live on.

Same with Michigan, if GM and FORD close, the people who want a better life will get new training and move to find a job that supports their family. Only those that expect others, a company or government to give something to them will really be hurt. UAW is like this, they expect or feel a job, benefits, reitrement is owed to them.

Nothing is owed to anyone, we make of our life what we put into it.

I for one could care less if FORD survives, parts would be bought up by other companies or taken over like Chrysler, but I do hope GM wakes up and realizes that they will have to fight to survive, no one really cares except for some workers and those of us that like GM Products. We have to fight and make a reason to survive.

:( Sad but I totally Agree with you. While I am a Proud White American who lives in Seattle washington. My wife is from Korea, my education I got in Japan. Yet I believe we support and keep the profits here in this country for the betterment of all. My wife is a big USA only person, she agree's and loves driving her suburban or Caddy CTS! :D Yet her sister is what ailes us, Her sister will only buy Honda due to them being Superior autos that outlast anything America can Build. No matter what she reads about recall's, or her own grip's about broken issues in her Civic, she still say's it is superior to anything the US makes. I asked her what she has to back up this superior Claim and she points to the Auto Mag's and the youth market that has all those cool RIce burners buzzing around Seattle. Her Friends that also say the same thing but will quickly bad mouth a US auto even if they have never owned one. I took her for a ride in our Caddy and while she loved it, thought it was nice. She said she would not trade in her Honda as it was superior to the caddy. :huh: Like what dope are these younger people smoking. GM and Ford will have to save themselves and they will have to do it with changes from top down including the Marketing companies they use to get the message out and getting Auto's that drive passion. Right now Passion is missing from allot of Ford and GM auto's. For me, I just hope I can retire my suburban once one is available with the Duramax Diesel. :P

Clean and modern, but almost a little too plain.  I hate to sound like chrominium, but it could use more chrome.

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<_< I hate Chrome, It totally has turned me off the caddy. I like the current model as it looks good with very minor chrome. The new one looks like something a Pimp would drive. Mercedes and BMW have made a fortune off Mono auto's. THere is no need for all the chrome parts that will end up rusting. Hell the 70's and early 80's taught us that the Chrom only ends up with Dings, looks bad and rusts. Even a new 300C I saw at the dealership with it's Chrome strip had a ding in it all ready. Chrome does not need to be on everything.

To be honest, at least from these pics, I think the Yukon XL looks a little better overall, and specifically in hiding the back end (I have no idea how).

Which is odd, because I'd take a new Tahoe 99 times out of 100 over a Yukon.

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I Love the BIG LOOK! B) This New Suburban reminds me of my current 94 GMC Suburban from the back end. It looks great. The current suburbans always looked like a bubble and small. I did not like them at all. <_<

Yea for the NEW GM 900's :D

<_< Maybe that is cause there is no Camero and only the Sting Ray is what will happen? :unsure:

:P What a great start to an awesome Auto Year!!! :P

B) This baby is SWEET!!! Yea this is so much better than the Mustang. I take one of these. :)

<_< No we just need to shoot all these stupid Neo Conservative Asian Loving Fuggly's that have no real concept of auto's or any real understanding of a vehicle. These are the same idiots that could not turn a screw to save their life. BASTERED! :angry: This baby rocks and way better than any honda Element or any other Honda, Toyota or asian trash. If they made a real auto with real size for real americans, they would realize none of their auto's make any sense and would have to start over. Let the people that want to die young and be cramped have the Asian trash, I stay with supporting my US made Auto's. B)

:puke: Tha is so Fuggly, they really should have just redone the Current SRT4. That will not be a hit at all except the dying baby boomers maybe. What a complete BOMB! :(

:P Interior and over all Spec is nice, but the picture is Hideous. :( I Like the Chevy look better. Course I like the Denali Engine and tranny! :P