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Look Toyota got there butts kicked that is what they get for bringing a jap toy into an American sport. Highest placing one was 23rd right. I think I will never buy another car part a Napa again or a Domino's pizza.

Will we get a G8 wagon? It might be a good Magnum a$$ kicker tho!

This is too funny they need a commercial on TV for this. I love the they have been watching our trucks. They have been doing a ton of over-marketing with this truck. Too many TV ad's and trying to push the "Wrangle jeans and white tee thing" way to far. It was evident at the Chicago Autoshow anyways. Hmmm Toyota who is trying to be who here? Good for GMC to get out the facts!

What fly said about B-G-P makes total sense.

Thank you I agree.

I know the interior in your Dodge isn't any better. I bet the engine isn't either. Is that a 2.7L DOHC V6? They have had lots of problems. I will stick with my torque happy 3800! If you are making fun of the Bonneville interior I will make fun of your bolt on hub-caps on steel wheels. I will get nasty if I need too. Actually I like my Bonneville and its driver-orientated interior (sp) and its wonderful exterior styling even the 17inch N89 chrome wheels. So just watch what you say... I will make fun of your spaceship if I need too. (I mean Dodge) Here is a comparison.

Don't worry mine are the halloween ones. Orange/Red over black I like them lite up a night alot, they look sweet. H*ll I love my Bonneville SLE I paid dear for it. (Actually it was an excellent deal but still was expensive!)

Fly I am with you good question.

GM doesn't need another brand to turn around.

Toyota is trying to buy there way into America's heartland. Good luck. Toyota is trying to be Chevy, I just saw a new Tundra commerical. They are trying it with Nascar. Even at the autoshow Toyota had people in levi's and work shirts all around selling the new Texas made Tundra. If they are not trying to buy there way into American who is. Who is trying to be like who here? Chevy is just being Chevy. Toyota will do anything to be nu.1 and quality has taken a backseat while GM refines quality and products who the h*ll cares if GM is not nu.1 for a few years as long as the perception of Toyota's being great changes because guess what there not. H*ll the recalled more vehicles than GM did last year and GM still made more vehicles. That is really moving foward... Hahaha so much for excellent Toyota quality!

I just want stuff to sell and if RWD will sell then that is fine.

Congrats enjoy your new Aciada. They are a great unit.

You won't see those brake along with the wheels, ride height will be a half inch higher than the show car, the interior won't be two tone, the leather wrapped dash won't be production either nor will the color.

Nope then it won't be there because it still will be in Chicago this weekend. I guess they could have shipped the red one over but I highly doubt that.

This guy nailed it as much as I love the G8 products like the Aura, new Malibu and G6 will be GM's foundation. Not RWD G8's or future RWD Cadillac's.

And I am too, I paid good money for my Bonneville and do like its dash.

I have always said the future of GM can be bright they just have to get serious now they our... And look Lexus/Benz stuff, the Lucerne/DTS were the first cars that gave me faith (the interiors) and now the Malibu, Camaro, Enclave and G8 have renewed my faith in GM. (Oh duh and the GMT-900's!) I love the new Caddy key fob I think it is standard in the DTS, at least the website I has a highlight on its remote-start.

I am not I just want good sales.

I am just speaking from a sales stand-point.

Has GM announced the Lucerne is going to RWD? They might have but I haven't heard I am just curious and I would be suprised if it is. Because of good sales, sorry to sound so stupid Northstar, maybe my head is in the sand. It wouldn't be the first time I have been wrong.

I liked the G8 better.

No, prolly not because only two G8's exist a RWD at Holden and the Gray one at the Chicago Autoshow. Unless they have another one or two floating around that I am not aware of. When does the Toronto autoshow start? I mean they could have the one that is in Chicago the showcar there in time.

This generation of G8 will be made down under. The Camaro and Impala will be built at the current Impala plant in Canada. Those our the facts. No one knows what is happening to the Lucerne or DTS. I would guess because of good sales they will stay FWD. But that is a guess. That is all anyone knows for sure right now!

I have heard for the next few years until the plant is converted to RWD the Pontiac will be made in Elizabeth. (or where its being made now) I heard when a new RWD Impala and Camaro start being made there the G8 and GTO will too. A RWD Lucerne goes back to having to many cars in the same size/style like Buick had the LeSabre and PA and Pontiac had the Bonneville. They wanted to get away from that and not compete over the same market, it isn't going to happen Buick will most likely stay FWD and Pontiac is moving towards RWD with a FWD model or two. There is still a market judging by sales for a FWD large Cadillac (DTS) and FWD large Buick (Lucerne). If there isn't a market for something it is another RWD car close to the size of the G8 and lets be honest Pontiac, Buick and GMC are considering themselfs one brand, like Chevrolet with a full-line-up! A RWD Zeta G8 and RWD Zeta Lucerne or whatever it is called will compete to much. Buick is suppose to now be more luxury not sport, that is why the Lucerne is FWD and the G8 will be RWD. I would love to see a Buick Roadmaster in addition to a FWD Lucerne based on the Holden Stateside but I doubt there is a market. Look at Cadillac the STS sold hardly 20K units last year CTS sales were closer to 55K and DTS sales (the old FWD model) were the highest at near 60K (58K to be exact) I doubt they want to get rid of a great seller. Look at the Lucerne they sold 80K of those old outdated barges *in some people minds* other people like me happen to apperciate them. A 6spd automatic in all the G-platform vehicles (Lucerne and DTS) would hold them over fine for the next few years. And then after that a redesigned FWD frame should be introduced (Chi *I know the Chi might be dead but that is what they said about the Zeta* or Lamada based FWD and AWD sedans...) that would make the most sense. Most people that buy these cars don't care about torque steer or even know what it is. They favor a good riding decent performing fullsize luxury cruiser over a that rides harsher and handles like it is on rails. Don't even get me started on the FWD advantage and yes many Cadillac/Buick buyers look into that, especially up in the Northern half of the US. At least I did and my dad did when he got his '89 and '92 Devilles. (He wouldn't get a Roadmaster or a Fleetwood Broughman!) They won't ditch it if it sells, trust me unless they have something VERY similar to replace it. Deny it or not numbers speak to GM and the sales of the DTS and Lucerne are good numbers. If they weren't they would be dropped like the Bonneville, Aztek, Skylark and (FWD) LeMans need I go on?

I bet it will be moved over. It make sense to me. I think a Camaro, GTO, Impala and G8 will share a plant. I bet the Lucerne/DTS will stay where they are at or be made alongside the CTS.