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So what if the dealer offers a huge cash-back incentive?

That's not the same as a manufacturer's rebate.....

Uhhh, you may wanna rethink your silly notion. How long do ya 'spose any dealer will stay in business if they hafta bribe every Turdra buyer with $8,000.00? Hmmm? Duh, gee, ya think Toyopet may, just MAY, be backing them up? HMMMMM? Can you say "dumping"?

I've been done with NASCAR for about the last year or so, and this crap will keep me from ever coming back. I believe that in the near future Chysler will pull out and I wouldn't be half surprised to see Ford out within the next 10 yrs or so. Then maybe, just maybe, a Toyrota MAY actually qualify for a race....

If that theory is true then it means owners of the Tundra with it's box flex should be concerned.

Ahhh, I forgot about THAT little issue... and yes, Turdra owners SHOULD be concerned. Hmm, 'spose there's any correlation between the Turdra's flexi-frame and its less-than-stelar crash rating? Stay tuned...

Here's something I don't see anyone here addressing... it's NOT the body flexing causing this problem. If the FJ is anything like any other BOF vehicle it has 6 body mounting points. 1- core support, 2-cowl, 3- usually right before the frame kickup at the rear suspension, 5- just behind the kickup, and 6- at the rear of the frame. This issue is clearly a FRAME flexing issue. The front part of the body carries little if any weight so I can't see any excuse for the body to crack at that point. It seems to me that the frame between the #1 and #2 (and maybe #3) mounts is way too flexible. Maybe the weight of a brush guard is causing the front of the frame to sag? That would be inexcusable. Stay tuned. Me thinks there is way more to this.

This boy's never given a rip about the Olympics. Can't say as any of my friends do either. I consider the Olympics to be irrelevent. And I doubt if I'm alone.

It's a deceptively worded article.

THEY ARE NOT SELLING MOPAR!!

Here's what the article really implies:

They are not selling the brand "Mopar". They want to sell (outsource) some warehouses and packaging operations......and they also want to outsource transportation like GM and Ford have done. I couldn't believe that Chrysler had kept their own transportation division this long. Why not get independent truckers to bid the lowest on routes to save them a bunch of money and reduce employment (health care)? I personally don't like to see Chrysler employment reduced.....but at least Americans will still be doing the driving.

Duh, brain fart on my part. Had never occured to me that Chrysler handled their own parts distribution from dock to dealer. Stupid. At least here in this area Ford uses Holingsworth Logistics and I can't say I have any problems with my parts deliveries. If only the clowns at my facing PDC were as good...

Do I hear a bell tolling for Chrysler? I hope not...

Now that's what I'm talking about!!! Make my blue. NOW!!!

You guys just don't get it. It doesn't matter what kind of throttle it is.....if you are sitting still, the car is not going to accelerate away "unintended" as long as you are properly using the brakes. IF you are moving, you can slow the vehicle by applying the brakes. It will take longer ('cause the throttle is open) but it's entirely possible to keep the car under control.

I do gey what you are saying, but you're giving far too much credit to the average schmuck out on the roads. There is a great precentage of the population that would freak out and panic if something like this were to occur. Most people on the roads, like it or not, are stupid. Put them in a car (or family of cars) that may well actually have a problem, and the odds of something bad happening to them (or worse, me) climb far more than I'm comfortable with. IF there is a problem with these Lexuses, then fix them. If not, fine.

I don't give "unintended acceleration" complaints ANY credit.

I do. I see no reason why a drive-by-wire throttle body couldn't do something such as this. After all, it's nothing more than a servo-style electric motor controling it. A programming glitch could easily cause an issue like this, or maybe water intrusion into a critical harness, a faulty signal from the throttle position sensor (accelerator pedal asy.), etc. Far more likely than it happening with a cable-driven thottle body.

Wow, a recycled '78 Omni/Horizon instrument cluster...... which explains the 85 mph speedo, or so it would seem.

I had the same problem with an Eagle Talon.

Around were I live there seems to be a lot of Buicks going through fences, houses, stores, etc. I don't think Buick has a problem with run-away acceleration. I think they have a problem with old buyers.

Hmmmm, must be going around, yesterday we had a 94 F150 piloted by a 72 yr old man drive thru a Wendy's... literaly. Unintended acceleration? You be the judge...

That is a concern of mine with vehicles equipped with drive-by-wire, as I would assume these affected Lexuses are. Not totally convinced it's a great idea since there seems to be no redundancy built in.

Turd-yoders aren't too fond of NE Ohio winters either... on a quiet night one can hear them rusting away.

The Aztek also happens to be about as slow as the CR-V, despite the V6. fueleconomy.gov shows that the CR-V averages about 1-2mpg better than the Aztek. For an SUV, 23mpg is good in the city, regardless of powerplant. The gearing and lightweight of the CR-V makes up for the smaller engine size. Of course it can't tow anything.

I might add that the new CRV comes awful close to matching the Aztek's ugliness....

you hurt my feelings, it says i'm not allowed to see it.... guess i'm not good enough.

IIRC, this isn't Nissan's first fire related recall, seems to me back in the 80's they had one for their minivans, those boxy crude heaps would burn up with no warning. As I recall, Nissan ended up buying them all back (roughly 33,000 of them)and scrapping them, although I highly doubt the Altima problem needs measures THAT drastic.

I assume that Altimas are probably mass-air fuel injection, makes me wonder if mass air flow sensor has a part in this...

Interesting. Nissan reports what, 4 fires, yet we have pics of 2 of them? What do you suppose the odds are of that? I'm tellin' y'all, this is gonna get interesting real soon... Ain't NO WAY that's caused by a cig getting sucked into the air box tract.

Miss Piggy, your chariot has arrived!!!

I guess I am in the minority; I like the exterior design of the 2007 Altima. How unfortunate that this great looking car (for a mainstream midsize sedan) has such a disturbing defect.

I do agree with many of the posts on this topic: I believe there is more going on than what has been released to the public. I hope Nissan isn't covering up something more complicated with what I think has been a pretty lame explanation so far. Can any of these corporations be trusted?

In a word, no. Guaranteed they're hiding something...

So let me get this straight... these four (yea, right. only four) Altimas ingested, say, a smoldering cigarette into the air cleaner intake and FOOM!!! up they went. I would say the odds of that being the cause for these fires is astronomical.

The F150 does NOT have IRS, it has a straight axle like the rest. It does however have shocks that are mounted about as far outboard as possible.

What are they celebrating the 20th anniversary of? The Corolla has been around a lot longet than 20 years, Toyota is older than 20 years, heck, the Corolla has even been front-drive for more than 20 years. I don't get it. . .

Kinda what I was thinking... I patched up a 4 year old Corolla that had collapsed strut towers (due to rust) back in 1980, back in vocational school auto body class. Guess they don't wan't to aknowledge any Corollas built before 1987??? Is Toyoturd ashamed of their earlier efforts? Makes one wonder...

reg stop the internet rumors... what made you decide to start that one?

http://carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=21005&page=9

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/pw/07tundra.htm

The Tundra has 3 timing chains. Apparently this is how you get a full-sized truck from 0-60 in 6.0 seconds.

Gotta defend Reg here, he isn't spreading any rumors. The small V8 (4.7L ?), probably their bread-and-butter engine, and probably the most common engine for the Turdra, has a timing BELT. Brilliant! not...