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Except for maybe the ATS and the Cascada, none of these could really house 4 adult occupants that well, including having them enter and exit the rear seat. So, even with 6 survivors, none of them are mainstream medium to large sized coupes that 4 or 5 people could pile into day in and day out ... like this ... I think I'm in love ... I had one exactly like this, sans vinyl roof and T-tops, and it was the most comfortable car I've ever owned. I didn't slide around, like the announcer said. I just sank right in. It was reliable, but not as reliable as my W-bodies. That's why, if another usable coupe came along, sign me up.

I know. Three of them are the pony trio and there's three more I'd have to scratch my head about. Yes ... the Cascada, too. Damn, the automotive world needs to wake us all up with a beautifully executed new Riviera.

If it's a Buick, then why not. If it's something of Yugo quality, then heck no! It's highly likely that one's furnishings were designed in the U.S. but built overseas in Asia, and of materials sourced in Asia. Some of these furnishings have turned out to be o.k. Market dynamics in ALL sorts of markets have shifted so much in the last two decades. It's mind boggling.

I'm very mixed on this. That domestic automaker market share would climb is music to my ears. However, if the proportion of sedans and coupes shrinks because of this dynamic and there are fewer choices for my automotive needs going forward, then I'm not a happy camper. I'm guessing I can't have my cake and eat it, too. Even with GM still being the largest domestic automaker, I'm finding the choice of cars they now offer for sale beginning to look more limited, and even dismal. I'm a mid-size and nicely appointed sedan buyer at this point. And, I'm actually amazed to see myself now driving a sedan, given that I've always had a coupe prior to this. I will say that I don't miss the huge GM coupe doors that you had to restrain from scraping the cars next to yours in the parking lot.

Spotted in late February, so I wanted to add this. I couldn't help but photograph it. Had these units sported a 3800 V6, this would be my current sled. I remember how wigged out I was about Chevy's conversion from a regular 60 degree OHV 3400 V6 to the OHV 3500 Chevy V6, but with a new twist - their introduction of VVT done in a then unconventional way ... not by adding another set of cams up top, but by putting the solid state unit that regulated the VVT at the front of the camshaft pulley. As it turns out, over 10 years later, many 3500 VVT V6s are still powering those Impalas and Monte Carlos and doing just fine. I've talked to mechanics and they've told me that they've occasionally seen the actual solid state unit or the sensor up front replaced, but not too often. Also, having driven several 3500 VVT V6s in rentals in the late 2000s, they returned an unbelievable 33, and sometimes 34, mpg on the highway, which is amazing for 3,600 pound cars. They could keep the extra 89 horses that came with the now very common OHC 3600 V6 that came along later ... I'll take the extra 5 mpg on the highway. I'm happy with what I bought but I will have to admit to some cognitive dissonance when I see the very last of GM's venerable personal luxury midsize coupes, having driven a one GM coupe or another since I got my driver's license until now. And it was sad to see them clean up the Monte Carlo so nicely for its last 2 years and then see it disappear altogether. (It was funny when one forum participant here said he couldn't warm up to this car and referred to it as "the white trash car of America.")

It's going to be interesting to see if they will run into problems with using the names, logos, and other appurtenances specific to the Pontiac brand. It has now been ~10 years since it was phased out. I read about it. It's a customization kit set up for the Camaro. However, to crank out 1,000 ponies, that calls for a very specific engine, which it will have. When a new engine gets dropped in, it stops being a "kit" in my book. At any rate, has anyone noticed the recent change(s) in the Yahoo search page? While I prefer Google, this Yahoo page now features photography from its Flickr wing. If you love nature and animal photography, some new and stellar pieces of work are being showcased all the time. I am in awe of many of them.

I've been to Cortina D'Ampezzo. The Dolomites defy description. They don't feel like stereotypical Italy. It's more like being in Switzerland or Austria. The wheels and tail lamps say Pontiac and Firebird to me. When they ran together, I always preferred the Firebird to the Camaro, except in '77 and '78 (owing to the nasty "Smokey and the Bandit" front fascia). It has old school California plates. That is almost undoubtedly the Central Valley.

As I approached this car, I thought it was a Pontiac Solstice. As I got closer, I figured out it was the Saturn Sky. Now, these small 2-seaters aren't my sorts of sleds. However, if I were to have opted for one, it would have come from the GM family. I always thought Saturn had a cool logo. After looking at this again (see the badge on the front of the car), this feeling was reaffirmed.

I'm sorry to hear about this, Dave. All of these shake ups shake us all up. Crazy stuff.

Yes, I remember USD : CDN - 1 : 1 I also remember USD : CDN - 1 : 1.52 (circa 1999 ... Prince said "let's party like it's 1999" in one of his songs )

I cannot believe the prices in Toronto. On my 2005 visit, I drove around Woodbridge to see how much newer brick townhomes with nice finishes with 2 levels stacked above the 2 car garage cost and they were about $325,000 to $375,000 (CDN). I converted that into U.S. dollars (almost always a lower $ amount) and, for some reason, I thought it was sort of high. Given what I've seen in Toronto prices based on the last R.E. magazine I checked out, I'd hate to see what those townhomes would cost now.

I looked up the Post WW2 stucco ranches in L.A. that I grew up in and their prices are scary. I'm constantly scratching my head as to who can afford them. Someone must be able to or they couldn't charge those prices. The supply and demand curves must be intersecting. My parents couldn't buy those same houses if fairly new to L.A. in this day and age. Prices are high, but assessments as a percentage in L.A. aren't as absurd as they are in other major urban areas. As for square footage, 1,200 s.f. sounds like my cup of tea. I had a Southern styled brick ranch with the open carport at one side when I lived in Atlanta that was about 1,300 s.f. I loved it. Not too big, not too small. Driving by it if and when I'm in town breaks my heart because I don't have it anymore. I sensed that it was an up and coming area, and I was correct. They put a spur of their rapid transit system going fairly close by to it because the nearby area turned into a suburban business district. Well, when living near Seattle, I had to downsize into condo/townhome type living. It, too, was o.k., but nothing like what I had in Atlanta. But, OTOH, I had no yard work. Either way, if you want to buy a detached home in L.A. with 3 bedrooms for about $350K to $450K, it will be in South Central or maybe Compton, the latter of which is not in the city of L.A. Also, I've heard that some white folks are moving back into the South Central area, fixing up the homes, and living in them. They'd be smack between downtown and the harbor suburbs, although the area looks and feels sort of banal and doesn't have a lot of trees on the lawn strips. You fly right over it on approach to LAX. In reality, South Central has converted from having an African-American majority to having a huge Hispanic population within the last 2 decades. Let's just say it's still not the optimal part of L.A. to live in for low crime and good schools. As for art deco, the design of homes/buildings and ships cross-fertilized each other in that era, I believe.

Any relatives I've had in NJ have been in northern NJ (Bergen County, right across the GW Bridge from Manhattan) and I could have sworn there is some provision for property tax relief when people get to a certain age and that my relative mentioned. He stayed in his house when he retired instead of moving to Florida! I'm not sure if they have a provision that locks the assessment, like they do in California, so that people didn't get chucked from the homes they bought at 60s and 70s prices, for example. I thought Prop 13-Jarvis was the right thing to do. When those houses in Calif. do sell (the next time), their property tax assessment will jump.

It's interesting how the window of time available to the domestics where they don't heavily discount popular new cars is a short/tight one. The new Cruze is released and you pay close to MSRP. The new Fusion is released ... ditto. The new Malibu is released ... ditto. Then, it goes away quickly, as these cars begin to dominate rental fleets. Incidentally, since I find myself behind a latest-gen Malibu on an almost daily basis, its underpinnings are interesting. If right behind one, you can see the wishbone arms of the rear suspension fairly clearly. These arms have small round perforations in them. And I'm laughing thinking "it's all about the neutral axis."

There are no Guidos in Italy. No open shirts, gold chains, and slicked back hair. Or, if you see some variant of that, it will be more stylish (almost too much so) than pimpish. Italian kids look at their Jersey Shore counterparts (age wise) with amusement and derision. What you will see over there are the wrong parts of town with people that look menacing, so you know that you'd best be moving along. Any more, a lot of the people occupying these districts might be from other parts of Europe, the Middle East/Asia, and (mostly North) Africa. The number of undocumented people in Mediterranean Europe is large and creates tension and social problems.

The dividend yield may be good but the absolute amount is small. The yield always looks better when the price drops, not that that's been the situation at Ford. Their stock just seems to hover between $10 and $12.

F.I.A.T. always meant Fix It Again, Tony while growing up. It was on a trip to Italy, and which included Turin, that I learned F.I.A.T. means Fabbrica Italiana Automobilistica Torino. Their city tram system goes right along the thoroughfare in front of their headquarters. I would have to agree that F.I.A.T. qualifies as an "idiot company" based on their products ... more misses than hits. I'm sure their management ranks must be rife with highbrow Italian pomposity, too.

I'd just like to make $500 in what is now a long-term (oh yes, long-term) capital gain on F stock and call it a day with them, as in whew. Their dividends are paltry. I'm o.k. with their cars. The gap between GM and Ford in terms of product desirability has shrunken quite a bit in my book.

Stocks can be weird. General Motors (GM) has a much higher per share valuation than does Ford (F). GM's price moves up and down, while F's doesn't do much at all. If you went to a chart, you can see that it has been very flat ... for most of its life. I've always sensed that GM experiences these peaks and valleys while Ford seems to sort of chug along. Yet Ford has never needed a bailout. Let's hope they never will.

You're right. I had forgotten all about that. So weird that the Riv and Toro were so different at that time, yet so similar in their last rendition (together). There was what I called the "oval Riv" that continued on for a while after the Toro departed.

There was a lot of dowdy stuff, relatively speaking, going on at that time. This was not dowdy in any way, either on the outside or on the inside. The interior of these was wonderful. And, those vertical headlights that opened up like cracking an egg and then hid away were unique. Looking at this photo, that could only be Florida ... meh, it could be GA or SC or ... Are these rank ordered by gender? It would be interesting to know the relative tilt of the purchases by gender. Some of these don't surprise me. Some of them do. Of all the cars on that list, the only one I like is the Chevrolet SS. And I liked that car before I even saw the list, not that that would do anything to change my mind. Chev SS

I had forgotten all about the offset license plate. I think this car has a place in the annals of auto history, be it good or bad. That of the first Riviera is undoubtedly good. I do remember the transition to the 1974, though. It was cleaner looking and had these thin twin lamps right under the more conservatively sloped rear window, as well as one of the first large opera windows (meant to be encircled by a landau top).

Ok, so for years, I see a certain type of VW go by and I assumed it was a Passat of sorts, but sleeker. Turns out it's a CC. Even thought it's got 4 doors, the acronym CC stands for Comfort Coupe.' These cost quite a bit more than the Passat. I see these more than I see Phaetons. Phaetons look enormous for being VWs. What's the general on-the-street sentiment on CCs and Phaetons as far as popularity and dependability go? I'm guessing that the CC rides on a Passat chassis and that the Phaeton rides on an elongated Passat chassis? Not sure.

I definitely remember the model, but telling which year they were was not easy. Sometimes, the color identified the year because it was specific to that year. I remember that both the Toro and Riv of this series had one helluva C pillar (no B pillar, really, because the door/rear glass was frameless). I had only ridden in a Riv (it was an '83 and had the 4.1 litre 4 bbl. V6) but once actually drove an 80-something used Toronado. I could not believe how smoothly it rode and handled. Quite a ways up from a Cutlass Supreme. I believe it had the 5.0 Olds V8. Then I had to weasel out of not wanting to buy it. All of those cars had the engine facing forward and I don't remember how and where they placed the transaxle. I believe the Eldorado came on the same chassis. And I remember that, per the badging, some of the Eldorados had the 4.1 litre V6 (as a credit option), some had the 4100 Cadillac V8, and some were unfortunate enough to have the V8-6-4, in which the technology was not worked out. Cadillac lost a lot of fans because of that engine.

If a person checks out the Wiki site for the Olds Intrigue, the head of design was Brigid O'Kane. She was with Olds for quite a while, including a stint at a design center in California. She has three degrees in design and is (currently) the interim director (if I read it correctly) of the School of Design at the University of Cincinnati. She had to move the Intrigue from the more space-like Antares concept into a final design that would work on a W-body and also sell. I once again saw that the car is not a GM of Oshawa product, but of the Fairfax plant around Kansas City, MO.