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i'm glad you set the bar so low (toyota). and ignore cars like the mazda 3 etc. upcoming focus, etc. in a critical volume segment. right. yet cadillac ignored all wheel drive the whole time.........

no, you'd actually be serious. aside from that its a nice car.

because the market stays still for 2 years while gm pulls their head out of their arse.....right. It's 2011 almost. You have to bring all your guns to the start of a gunfight. Apologies, apologies....

17370 for an LS with USB and bluetooth. (manual) not bad. except, its missing an engine........

sure, but some still would suggest that they should take that down to a 1.4l turbo with 138hp, that's all the choice u should have!

not sure how i ended up on it the other night, but really, spend some time reading up on Chicago Climate Exchange, Maurice Strong and UN Agenda 21, generally the green agenda is more about one world order and destroying your middle class way of life in the US. It's a mechanism disguised as concern for the environment which essentially is a back door sort of way to infiltrate public policy with a socialist and freedom stripping agenda. And how folks like Al Gore and even BarryO stand to make huge coin from all that useless cap and trade. One of the goals of the world power grabbers is to take away the car you drive. I won't be surprised if in 10-15 years a lot of us on here won't be 'permitted' to have vehicles....they also want you to live in a small box on top of someone else. they are wanting to create the rule of the land so you can't even own property. Cars are merely the tip of the iceberg. The green freaks feel like they are achieving critical mass, especially having brainswashed the younger set from birth by now...and taking over the media...your own US politicians are mere props and theater at this point, the debt is of no concern because it just steers us quicker into relinquishing our own control over our country if we are broke quicker. then we must bow to the world order........Pelosi is probably a merchant puppet. to be kind. i would never accuse Ed Begley of being that sinister though. He probably is an 'environerd', not a power grabber.

those avengers with big rebates look pretty good compared to pie in the sky cruze pricing. a new buyer will lose their ass if they spend 24 grand on a cruze, and then its worth 13 on the auction 12 months later.

lol

GNX? GS Regal should have over 300hp before they sell it and it gets a rep as underpowered.

thanks for the explanation.

hence why i figured i might as well have bought my cobalt when it was half the price of that. nearly. i knew waiting for the cruze wouldn not be fruitful at all. 012 civic looks to be a disaster. At this time the Jetta, Cruze, and Focus look to be market leaders very soon next to the mazzeda 3 in fairness, only 5% of cruze's built will have that 27k sticker. I see most of them being in the 20-22 range. LT1 or LT2 with things like remote start and such. A rebate and dealer discount and we are probably around 18-19, which at that price it could do ok. Chevy should have avoided the few models with sticker shock. It's as though they did that only to spike residuals for the whole line and to convince the banks to loan all it can to back up the sales transaction prices.

you mean like a turbocharged mazdaspeed3 for just a few bucks over 24 thousand? Well, at least one gets a turbocharged engine that can move the car. Cruze LTZ with all options is well over 26 grand, WHAT ARE THEY SMOKING? I did price an LT1 at 20,600 and an LT2 with sunroof at 22,700. That is closer to reasonable. But that Kia Optima will be about the same price..........I'm all about supporting the home team but at extortion pricing, the home team can GFI. I'm not sure who remembers this but this reminds me of the Oval Taurus and Ford Contour intros. The aspirational pricing did them in from the get go. The Cruze is a bit more solid product wise (engine output notwithstanding) but its not head and shoulders enough apart to have one on the lot at 27 grand. Chevy also better have good lease deals in the works to match all those zero down 229 a month corolla leases.....

Cruze configurator is on at Chevy.com might want to medicate for sticker shock.......

All I know is the regal, equinox, and cruze all have been called slow in reviews so far. So much for that gut wrenching gm torque. Your argument becomes valid when the cars are not ripped for being slow.

I've said this, this is where pricing and advantages on the spec sheet are what lures the skeptical buyer in it's why even though it may meet baseline standard to simply match the others in things like hp or having DI or Usb and Bluetooth standard....... Example. Malibu can't get real wheels until 2LT and like a 25k sticker. Other cars in class you can get alum wheels for 21 and change. The customer feels ripped off before they even consider what to go out and drive. It's why numbers on a spec sheet are more powerful in the sales experience than everyone wants to fess up and admit.

wow, car and driver wasn't so kind about the equinox and the 6 speed. gm is not the first manuf to have 6 speed autos they are one of the latest. my 05 ford 500 had a six speed back then, 6 model years ago. the reason it seems like a godsend now is because the old models with the pushrod motors and 4 speed automatics were another level down on the food chain. cruze shoulda had a 1.6t

me...warming to it.... 0-60 in 7.3? that's like over 2 seconds quicker than a CRUZE i bet....for the same money.... Nissan's Mini killer? http://www.insideline.com/nissan/juke/2011/2011-nissan-juke-full-test-and-video.html

what's GMI? lol Astra GTC 3 door here as a Buick? I think cruze deserves a coupe, verano/astra a 3 door., aveo should consider a 3 door too. SPARK GXP GMC Granite Denali current one as an SS would be cool. but based on the most recent next gen spy shots the malibu appears to be heading towards snoozer lame/lane. no wonder they are making the cruze the performance sedan. the next malibu is starting to look like it has dull written all over it. you either have to afford the buicks now or go for the cruze ss. no oracle of delphi to pop in on this one?

i WOULD be interested in a car like that. 140hp, pass, but 170...and light weight, let's talk. my biggest gripe on the past performance models was the huge price difference it took to get one over the median model. instead of 7-10 grand price spreads on a basic vehicle for the performance goodies, can we just look at say 3 grand for a modest but noticeable improvement? example, maybe a cruze SS at 28 grand is nice, but i think a Cruze RS at 22k with a 180-200hp four pot and euro tuned suspension and quicker steering would sell a lot more and build more of a fan base than a 300hp awd too expensive one. as an example. Lancer evos don't sell a bunch. the WRX sold a lot when it was affordable. as recently as 3 years ago you could still buy a WRX closer to 20 grand rather than 30.

2008 Nissan Maxima. 33k miles. leather, sunroof.

well, i will defer to a later time. i was just looking at some dodge magnum AWD's those are outrageous too.

aztek 11995 ranger 11495

my aztek apparently had no trouble selling for the 7 grand asking price......transmission about a week away from death and all.......... it wasn't going to do me any good to pump the money into and fix it and try to sell it myself. people will give a dealer 7 grand for something with imminent repairs but i bet i wouldn't have been able to find any private party takers for 5 grand with repairs needed at the start. whoever bought that was looking at 10,000 dollar bill at the start for a six year old car with 115k on it. i hope they like it for a LONG LONG TIME i did find an attractive 05 or 06 fwd rendevsouz with 60k and in decent shape for around 10,800 at a dealer recently. i almost test drove it.

http://www.canadiandriver.com/2010/08/17/day-by-day-review-2011-buick-regal-cxl.htm?page=all he is SMOKING CRACK it IS an upgrade. and the seats are not FLAT.

again, spot on. but then when you want to trade, all of a sudden the dealer looks at book as gospel. in order to screw you coming and going. sell for retail + 2000, trade in book minus all the little things we can find wrong with it.