Camino LS6

What a monster!

What would you do with it?

I'm not cheering, or jeering...

I'm gaping.

It would be foolish not sell another car based on this driveline. With the needed investment along with the investment already made they need to continue to improve and refine this system. Spreading the cost will only help. This car is not expected to make a profit for a while but at some point it will need to pay off. Cheaper parts and performace will be what help pay this off and only more development will get GM there. As for the Diesel and Hybrids they are coming anyways. It is going to take all of these to keep Luxury cars alive in the future.

Selling the Electric Cadillac now will seed a segment that will be needed in the future. If you don't build up the segment the cars will never get the development and funding needed to improve them.

There is no silver bullet here to solve the issues facing future regulations. GM will have to work all options to meet the regs and still sell cars people can live with. If you note the one goal of the Volt is to act and feel like a normal car. This is what they want to do with all types of new drivetrain technology and we will see them make attempts to meet this goal with all models.

I actually agree with this.

Might not be a bad idea to offer a conventional version of the Converj to spread the costs even farther. The bodywork is dead-sexy, so why not?

Seafoam and fresh gas made no difference (except the plugs got nice and clean).

Threw in some new AC plugs - no change

Re-did a ground wire - no change

A friend is going to bring a scan tool by on Sunday, we'll see if that sheds any light.

Trying some fresh premium gas and a sea foam treatment in case it was bad gas...

Unfortunately, yes.

Too much junk in that trunk, but otherwise I like it.

Tossing that would be the first order of business when I brought it home.

Nice car for the money - too bad it's a wuss-a-matic.

I'm not going to argue with you too much because I know you're love of Holden, but that is a bit of revisionist history right there. GMNA did the Sigma platform, the platform that the flagship of all GM rides on, the CTS-V. A platform that is only out handled by a BMW M3 when you put a 78 year old behind the wheel of the Cadillac and a 22 year old behind the wheel of the BMW. I'd say that GMNA got that platform "right".

The revisionist history is this: Every Holden Commodore from 1978 to 2002 was borrowed from an Opel platform and modified for AU use. I am not discounting at all the great job that Holden did with these modification, but at their hearts, they are still Opel chassis that Holden built on. Think of Holden as Opel's performance division if you wish, but they are Opel platforms tuned by Holden. Contrast that to GMNA which did Sigma from the ground up and made it the best performing sedan, coupe, and wagon in the company.

Again, Sigma is Caddy-only. And as good as it is, it is only a tiny bright spot in the overall gloom that is RWD from GMNA in the last few decades.

As for Holden, what they did is remarkable. They aren't a "performance division" of Opel, they took the Opel and completely re-engineered it, expanded it's range, re-powered it, re-bodied it, and exported it around the globe.

Then they created Zeta, which is as good as, if not better than, Sigma. All the while, pre andf post Zeta they trounced Sigma's main target: BMW.

GMNA dithers, Holden produces.

That said, the real issue is that the idea of yanking the Commodore (and RWD in general), is simply indefensible.

The Converj is the best-looking thing Cadillac has created in ages.

FWD, or not

Voltec powertrain, or not

I sure hope that the ELR makes no changes to that beautiful design.

The point is that GM's RWD expertise lives at Holden. Yanking the Commodore away from there would be absolutely stupid. In effect, it would be tantamount to signing Holden's death warrant - along with it's export business, and any hope for non-Cadillac RWD from GM.

GMNA's track record on RWD speaks for itself - it's an ugly, bloody, unpleasant story of rotting on the vine, dashed hopes, and expensive mistakes.

They forgot how to get it right.

Holden remembers, because Holden never stopped.

Not too bad looking, but not a coupe in any way, shape, or form.

No Pony, but I did breifly entertain the notion of taking a third puppy (Duntov) when I picked the two out.

Pretty glad now that I didn't.

I think I need to have this thing hooked-up to a scan tool that can read the soft codes (if any have been set).

Maybe the ECU after all?

You didn't run it with no CAT at all even being empty?

No, the cat is nothing but a big pipe at this point - so it wouldn't make any difference.

Here are some pics that actually look like an engine: ... ...

An observation... Did the rear-most ports on the heads stay sealed/covered by the intake plenum gaskets? Would that matter? In case the pictures in the quoted text don't show up, I'm referring to the 5th and 6th photos in this post.

Those are coolant ports, and are designed to be that way. I did a double-take when I first saw them too, but they are correct.

aren't we starting to get rather liberal with the use of the word "recent"?

Not so far.

I pegged the early nineties as a cut-off in the first post.

Swapped the distributor - problem is still there.

Good looking dog! Is that a Malamute?

Thanks, and yes he is a Malamute. I have two, Zora and his brother - Arkus.

Limos aren't my thing, but this one is unique enough to be interesting.

And, at the price it's sitting at, it is a screaming bargain.

Saw this one coming a mile away...

Congrats Ocn, hope you enjoy it.

Thanks Ocn, it will be tough to see it go.

Some really cool details...like the ram emblem w/ wings on each side above the bumper...interesting..so Dodge had the ram brand imagery that far back..

Yup.

Technically, it is Dodge Brothers, not simply Dodge. This is the last year of the Dodge Brothers name (pre-Chrysler).

Yeah, the detailing is pretty cool on this old car.

Thanks for the compliments.

Nice!