Ghost Dog

Its far from over yet. Delphi is unresolved. Strike is still possible. What I heard up here is they are'nt afraid to bring GM down. They're going to do what they have to.

Not paying attention. tsk, tsk.

http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/...0604120160.html

The U.S. midterm elections this autumn will likely fan protectionism even further. From cars to consumer goods of every kind, foreign imports are growing. American citizens, who are worried about their future, can easily support protectionism on grounds of unfair foreign business practices or national security.

Not gonna happen. The rest of the country doesnt care about the Union, we just want great cars. The only place that really matters is Michigan. The other 49 states dont care.

See what happens when politicians start running on anti outsourcing platforms.

That's ok, plants can still be built in Mexico......

I guess you could say the jobs are going somewhere....

They can sell em in mexico to. Because Protectionism is coming to . The Big T TARIFFS!!

See How many GM cars those three dollar an hour mexicans buy. :rotflmao:

Let's just reevaluate your statement, oh, say five years from now?

Shall we?

The Union does'nt go anywhere without taking GM with it. You must be saying Bancruptcy is certain.

The Old Forum Archives Are they Gone?

Pointless. Since the Union is'nt going anywhere.

So what should Vauxhall be?

And GM cant sell Daewoos in the US.

They are all GMs, and should be badged to fit each specific market.

The rebadging I'm against, is things like the CSVs and G5.

I'm for whatever brings us better cars. Bring on the Monaros and Astras and all the other good cars GM makes overseas. It's all about the product.

Fine Just don't deceive the American public by Attaching U.S. Brand Names to them. If They Are Soooooooooo good they Should sell without misleading the public.

So Chinese Buicks, all of Vauxhall, Pontiac GTO, middle east Luminas, they are all false advertisement? Do you propose we change them all to just be branded as GM?

A Holden should be a Holden,a Daewoo a Daewoo, and a Shanghai a Shanghai.

And when was the last time Chevy, Pontiac, or Buick engineered anything? 

I thought so.

Oh about 20 points of market share ago.

GM is an international company with plants in many countries..they should be able to source their cars from any of their plants when it is cost-effective to sell in a particular market..the Aveo isn't made in the US, for example..

The Aveo should have Daewoo or Geo Badge on it. Not Chevy.It is a Daewoo thats just a Fact. Badging it as a Chevy really is A False advertisement.

Workers’ representatives in Germany have been pressuring GM to export Opel cars to the US to secure jobs and fill under-used capacity in German factories.

Of course at the expense of American Jobs. Unless Its written in the U.A.W contract in 07 Vehicle for Vehicle,Engine For Engine, Transmission for Transmission. Equal Exchange Both Ways then The U.A.W needs to vehemently oppose this. To the point Of Striking if needed. Unless its written The Talk of Exchange is B.S. And truly nothing more then Outsourcing U.A.W. jobs to Germany

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...6/1003&refsect=

Saturns still will be built in North America, not Europe. GM executives aren't talking about importing and rebadging vehicles produced at Opel plants overseas, but rather making the identical cars in the United States.

I got this in an Automotive news email. But Can't Find The article.

US could get Opel cars

Exports to America possible, Lutz says

Opel cars built in Germany could be exported to the US, says General Motors Vice Chairman Robert Lutz. Lutz said 

If Its true I would think it a Strike worthy issue in 2007.

A Blurb from the three valve pdf. pg6

http://www.sae.org/automag/techbriefs/09-2003/1-111-9-26.pdf

The 6.3-L version of the engine will produce 500 hp

(373 kW), for example. So the new pump produces twice the

80 gal/min (300 L/min) of coolant provided by the two-valve

engine’s water pump.

The DOD system and cam phaser increase the demand for

oil pressure, so both the V8 and V6 engines get improved oil

pumps. The V8’s is a two-phase oil pump, switching between

high and low flow as needed to maintain the necessary oil

pressure without suffering excessive parasitic losses when

lower pressure is sufficient. The V6 is even more efficient,

with a variable displacement oil pump that continuously

adjusts its output for maximum efficiency.

The engines also feature optimized exhaust manifolds with

equal flow runners for each cylinder.

BORGWARNER LAUNCHES BREAKTHROUGH VCT TECHNOLOGY

FOR NEW FAMILY OF GM V6 ENGINES

   

Chicago, Illinois, February 2, 2005 – BorgWarner Morse TEC has begun production of its first high-volume variable cam timing (VCT) systems for a new family of General Motors V6 engines being introduced this year. This system uses a Torsional Assist™ technology instead of the conventional oil-pressure actuated approach. This new technology represents a leap to the next generation of cam phasing. The launch is BorgWarner’s first production of its VCT technology and constitutes a major step in the expansion of BorgWarner’s growing engine management business.

“This production launch is a milestone that has been years in the making, and reflects a breakthrough that will revolutionize the use of variable cam timing,” said Roger Wood, President and General Manager, BorgWarner Morse TEC. “VCT is a natural extension of our global position in the fixed timing drive market. We are delighted to provide GM, and the drivers of vehicles equipped with these new engines, with improved fuel economy, reduced emissions and enhanced performance.” This new family of sophisticated V-6 engines, which includes 3.5L and 3.9L variants, are the first mass-produced overhead valve engines to feature cam phasing in an overhead-valve engine design. Later this year, the new 3.5L and 3.9L V-6 engines will debut in the 2006 model year Chevrolet Impala, Chevrolet Monte Carlo, and Pontiac G6.

Variable cam timing is a means of precisely controlling the flow of air into and out of an engine by allowing the camshaft to be dynamically phased relative to its crankshaft. BorgWarner VCT technology includes devices that utilize camshaft torque as their actuation energy, in contrast to conventional phaser devices that depend on engine oil pressure for actuation.

“The Torsional Assist (TA)™ innovation that we are providing to GM is unique to BorgWarner as well as the industry. It requires fewer engine architecture changes and yields fuel and emissions benefits greater than conventional oil-pressure actuated devices,” Wood said. “The launch is another example of how BorgWarner is exceptionally positioned to engineer, manage and supply completely integrated variable cam timing systems.”

http://www.morsetec.com/rel_05b.html

real good detail on how it was going to work.

Starting on page 5. (From september 2003?)

http://www.sae.org/automag/techbriefs/09-2003/1-111-9-26.pdf

With D.O.D and VVT

Positioning intake and exhaust valves

on opposite sides of the combustion

chamber leaves space in the center for

the spark plug, which improves combustion

efficiency. Together, these improvements

boost power output by 10-15%,

according to the company.

The three-valve heads are about 1 in (25 mm) wider than

the two-valve heads, but they maintain the low profile that is

an advantage of OHV engines. The new heads will work with

the displacement-on-demand (DOD) cylinder-deactivation

system that will arrive on the two-valve Generation IV engine

and High Value V6 for even better fuel economy.

”The three-valve design adds complexity but uses the type

of components with which GM is very familiar, so reliability

shouldn’t be a problem,” said Frederick Rozario, Development

Engineer, Advanced Powertrain at GM. “And while the added

mass in the valvetrain might seem to be an obstacle to highrpm operation,

the Corvette engine will rev to 7000 rpm with a

30% margin of safety. It can go to 8000 rpm safely,” he added. A

special jig will hold the parts together so the whole valve actuation

assembly can be installed as a unit on the head.

“A weakness of single camshaft engines is the inability to

separate intake-cam timing from exhaust-cam timing for

maximum efficiency and minimal emissions. But a cam phaser

that adjusts the advance or retard of even a single cam,

depending on conditions, is still very valuable,” Rozario said.

“The cam phaser on this engine provides 80% of the benefit

of a system with separate intake and exhaust phasers.”

The DOD system and cam phaser increase the demand for

oil pressure, so both the V8 and V6 engines get improved oil

pumps. The V8’s is a two-phase oil pump, switching between

high and low flow as needed to maintain the necessary oil

pressure without suffering excessive parasitic losses when

lower pressure is sufficient. The V6 is even more efficient,

with a variable displacement oil pump that continuously

adjusts its output for maximum efficiency.

The engines also feature optimized exhaust manifolds with

equal flow runners for each cylinder.

Would have been Sweet.

Stability control is huge. The numbers are there, it makes a difference.

Autoweek has some Shots from the show.

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/200...ok/pages/01.htm

Autoweek has some nice shots from the Show.

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/200...ra/pages/01.htm

To me The Aura lives up to the promise of the Concept.

from autodeadline

from autodeadline

I wish it were a little bit more organic. Less Trucky.

I like it. Good Job.

But Bancruptcy, which is where the the strike leads is another issue. Bancruptcy is a big issue with the consumer.

Bankruptcy's double curse for carmakers

Report says 3 out of 4 Americans wouldn't buy a car from broke firm, as speculation swirls around GM

December 28, 2005: 12:47 PM EST

DETROIT (Reuters) - Almost three of every four American consumers polled would not buy a car from a manufacturer that had declared bankruptcy, according to a recent survey, giving struggling U.S. automaker General Motors Corp. something else to think about.

Seventy-four percent of respondents said they would not purchase or lease a new car from a bankrupt automaker, according to a survey released by Cincinnati-based research firm Directions Research Inc. Twenty-six percent said they would buy from a manufacturer in that position.

Block his messages in your control panel.  I did.

Thats what I did with EllVis