Robert Hall

Maybe not a strict equivalent, as Nissan has way more motorsports heritage behind it than Hyundai. I am still looking forward to Subaru and Nissan's affordable RWD 2+2 coupes. Honda could also make a fun car in this genre.

Though FWD, I'd like to see Honda do a new Prelude.. I really liked the last one (5th gen?). Supposedly, the hybrid CR-Z is going to be built..

That's unfortunate... I don't know for sure, but I would think in the US all the competition would have fog lights standard across all trim levels.

Whoopsie- got the '70 and the '09 mixed up above. Sorry. 197" is correct for the '09 - so the difference 'twixt it & the GTO is 7", not merely 1".

The Challenger is wider also, I think..though I didn't look up those dimensions. The new Camaro is pretty close to the GTO in size, I think.

For a 40-some-yr old car- that's not in 'sad shape' at all. Completely unmolested except for the replaced axle. Body is very solid. Original transaxle & aluminum front clip have been 'connected' with the new buyer, and a top-shelf resto is in the works. Poking around on the net, the only other completely restored coupe sold for circa $700K, not $500K.

Looks pretty rusty underneath, though... I'm sure it will appear at Barrett-Jackson or another auction in a year or two full restored and go for serious $$$.

It's based on an '84 Dodge Colt Turbo according to the article.

Pretty amazing.... if that were just an ordinary LeMans, it would probably go for 1/100th that price...it's in pretty sad shape.

The 2009 Challenger is 197" long, is it not?

Yes...197.7, 116 inch wheelbase. I'd call it a full size coupe...whatever category it is, I love it...really stands out amongst the FWD generica that dominates the car market today.

I was watching this one. Amazing eBay story, one for the books. Car is one of 8 coupes factory-built, long missing.

1 restored wagon sold for $462K earlier this year and a coupe sold for $500K - short of a Pontiac concept car, this is the top shelf for collectors, the Super Duty 421 Tempest / LeMans cars, eclipsing even the 14 Swiss Cheese Catalinas. There's 2 coupes left to find; 1 unknown, 1 bought by mercedes in '63 to learn how to build a performance engine. 6 years later, mercedes introduced the famous 6.9 V-8, otherwise known as the Mercedes... 421.

Actually, the Merceds 6.3 V8 came out in '63 in the 600 limo...the 300SEL 6.3 sedan started as a private venture in '66, factory model from '68-72. The 450SEL 6.9 came later, starting in '75.

Bumper Car

$2.75/gal for premium this morning for the 300CE.

I love it..wonderfully retro modern...love the '71 Cuda style touches like the grille and taillights. An AAR style hood would have made it even cooler, though.

Both very cool...love how the blacktop has a vintage Challenger badge in the taillight.

Curious... by the way, FOG, what is the origin of that pic in your sig? I've wondered for a while..

I'm very sorry about your loss, and my thoughts are with you PCS.. I lost my father in 1999 on Non-Hodgekins Lymphoma when I was 29..wish I had had more time to spend with him as an adult... he was 50 when I was born, retired at 55, so I did get alot of time w/ him growing up..

The area I grew up in has a lot of local breweries. My GF is a beer drinker and could tell you a lot about those, but I can't. Yuengling is HUGE around here (She loves it) as is PBR, (No, she doesn't drink PBR -- We're classy rednecks, lol)

The funny thing about PBR--it's sort of become a trendy hipster beer in recent years... a couple years ago, I used to do happy hour all the time at a Mc Cormick & Schmicks (upscale seafood restaurant) in a trendy office park, and they had PBR in cans! I remember drinking those and eating tasty calamari and oysters.

Phoenix has a few decent microbreweries (Four Peaks, Sonoran) but I miss all the brewpubs of Denver...there is a ton of great beer brewed in the Centennial State..

Microbrews and Mexican beers for me, and red wine w/ dinner usually (Merlots, Rhones, Cabs). I used to like vodka and Scotch, but very rarely have anything heavy anymore. I do like a mojito occasionally, esp. in hot weather.

Speaking of wine, I want to do a Napa wine tour sometime in the Spring.... I was there briefly one afternoon a few years ago, but want to go back see more. Elsewhere in CA, there is a winery in Paso Robles that I want to visit, mainly because they have my name. (a friend clued me in to them, I've tried their Syrah, quite good).

Winter beaters I always thought were under $500 (or $1000 to adjust for inflation). My brother used to do that in Ohio, getting a new rusty junker every year.

yeah, usually the bangers for all the 'walkable communities' and mass transit and kumbaya living and all of that, don't get the transportation in midwestern winters thing. one hellish winter in fargo for Ms Pelosi or any granola banger from berkeley, and they won't be even thinking bicycle anytime from November through march.

I wonder which would be worse, a winter in Fargo or a summer in Phoenix I've lived through NE Ohio and SE Michigan winters, but Fargo would be much worse, I think. I can't imagine why people would want to live there...

it wouldn't stop me... airlines go bankrupt all the time, and I still fly on them. Bankrupt does not mean out of business.

I would think GM would be looking at building Hummers in Russia, what with all the OC there...those guys love their bling toys.

+1 on heated seats...

Chris

Yes, they are great to have. Used 'em for years in my Jeep....even though I have a heated garage in CO, they were nice to have. Not sure if I will use them much in AZ, though. The '84 and '91 Mercs have them also. And the '84 has a power rear seat, unusual feature to see..

dear lord i just looked her up.

OH MY GOSH!

Ah, yeah.. Sarah Shahi is in 'Life', I think? Quite hot. Another young hottie I forgot is Emanuelle Chiriqui...she was in 'Entourage' and 'Don't Mess With The Zohan'..

I also like Eva Mendes and Michael Michele (from 'Dark Blue', been in 'House' a couple of times)...

What year Caravan?

Everything will fit if I get all of the parts, however I will leave my dash and door panels intact...I have other plans for them.

I would think the dash and IP would be the hardest parts to swap because all the stuff that attaches to them. I assume you are keeping your steering wheel (that would be difficult also because of the airbag, I would think).