Sales by Brand - Canada vs US

[the_yellow_dart]

So what kicked off this search was my reading Oldsmoboi's post, "If Mazda survives that long", and thinking, "What a wierd thing to say!". It got me thinking, I wonder if Mazda is only doing well here in Canada.

So here are some graphs I dug up.

Mazda outsells Nissan here in Canada, where in the US they get beaten almost 4-to-1.

Also, note the American GM-Ford-Toyota podium vs. Ford-Chrysler-GM in Canada.

Edited November 1, 2012 by the_yellow_dart

[ocnblu]

Thanks for posting! The different perspective is very interesting to see, and since we have pretty much all the same manufacturers selling cars down here as you do, it is very pertinent. Crazy, GM the smallest of the Detroit Big 3 in Canada for September.

[the_yellow_dart]

The differences are fairly slight really - only real significant differences are the Mazda and GM numbers.

When you go model-by-model, our countries start to look a little further apart - Canadians tend to buy smaller cars. Which makes me wonder if GM's Canadian sales will improve as time goes on and the Spark and Sonic take off.

[G. David Felt]

The differences are fairly slight really - only real significant differences are the Mazda and GM numbers.

When you go model-by-model, our countries start to look a little further apart - Canadians tend to buy smaller cars. Which makes me wonder if GM's Canadian sales will improve as time goes on and the Spark and Sonic take off.

If you took away Canada's Crazy Socialist Taxation system, you would free up wealth that people would spend on a wide variety of things.

[the_yellow_dart]

dfelt - They're really not that different when you break it down.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Canadian_and_American_economies

In Canada total tax and non-tax revenue for every level of government equals about 38.4% of GDP,^[1] compared to the U.S. rate of 28.2%.^[2]

A significant portion of this tax differential is due to spending differences between the two countries. While the US is running deficits of about 4% of GDP,^[3] Canada's Federal government posted a budget surplus of around 1% of GDP per year from the mid-1990's until 2008, and is projected to enter back into a surplus by 2016.^[4] The deficit patterns and indebtedness of Canada's individual provinces vary like they do in the US among different states. Considered in a revenue-neutral context, the differential is much smaller - Canada's total governmental spending was about 36% of GDP^[5] vs. 31% in the US.^[3] In addition, caution must be used when comparing taxes across countries, due to the different services each offers. Whereas the Canadian healthcare system is 70% government-funded, the US system is just under 50% government-funded (mostly via Medicare and Medicaid); adding the additional healthcare-spending burden to the above figures to obtain comparable numbers (+3% for Canada, +7% for the US) gives adjusted expenditures of 38–39% of GDP for each of the two nations.

The taxes are applied the same as well. Canada's income tax system is more heavily biased against the highest income earners, thus while Canada's income tax rate is higher on average^{[citation needed]}, the bottom fifty percent of the population is roughly taxed the same on income as in the United States. However, Canada has a national goods and services tax of 5% on most purchases, while the U.S. federal government does not, increasing the tax burden on Canadian low-income earners due to the proportional nature of a sales tax. Canadian GST does not tax food and other essentials and a GST rebate for low-income earners mitigates regressiveness.^[6]

In addition to the 5% GST levied on most purchases, some Canadians also pay a provincial sales tax at a rate that varies by province and can be as high as 10%. In Ontario, for example, where the provincial sales tax (PST) is 8%, consumers must pay a total of 13% sales tax on top of the purchase price. (It should be noted that Ontario has eliminated both the PST and GST, replacing them with harmonized sales tax, or HST, of 13%, which changes the sales tax on some items.) There are some purchases which are PST exempt, such as children's clothing. In the U.S., most states impose a sales tax, and cities and counties are often permitted to levy taxes as well, which can exceed 10% on purchases but realistically average at about 6-8%. Five U.S. states do not have any sales tax imposed.^[7] The Canadian province of Alberta and all three territories have no provincial or territorial sales tax on top of the GST.

[G. David Felt]

dfelt - They're really not that different when you break it down.

From http://en.wikipedia....rican_economies

In Canada total tax and non-tax revenue for every level of government equals about 38.4% of GDP,^[1] compared to the U.S. rate of 28.2%.^[2]

A significant portion of this tax differential is due to spending differences between the two countries. While the US is running deficits of about 4% of GDP,^[3] Canada's Federal government posted a budget surplus of around 1% of GDP per year from the mid-1990's until 2008, and is projected to enter back into a surplus by 2016.^[4] The deficit patterns and indebtedness of Canada's individual provinces vary like they do in the US among different states. Considered in a revenue-neutral context, the differential is much smaller - Canada's total governmental spending was about 36% of GDP^[5] vs. 31% in the US.^[3] In addition, caution must be used when comparing taxes across countries, due to the different services each offers. Whereas the Canadian healthcare system is 70% government-funded, the US system is just under 50% government-funded (mostly via Medicare and Medicaid); adding the additional healthcare-spending burden to the above figures to obtain comparable numbers (+3% for Canada, +7% for the US) gives adjusted expenditures of 38–39% of GDP for each of the two nations.

The taxes are applied the same as well. Canada's income tax system is more heavily biased against the highest income earners, thus while Canada's income tax rate is higher on average^{[citation needed]}, the bottom fifty percent of the population is roughly taxed the same on income as in the United States. However, Canada has a national goods and services tax of 5% on most purchases, while the U.S. federal government does not, increasing the tax burden on Canadian low-income earners due to the proportional nature of a sales tax. Canadian GST does not tax food and other essentials and a GST rebate for low-income earners mitigates regressiveness.^[6]

In addition to the 5% GST levied on most purchases, some Canadians also pay a provincial sales tax at a rate that varies by province and can be as high as 10%. In Ontario, for example, where the provincial sales tax (PST) is 8%, consumers must pay a total of 13% sales tax on top of the purchase price. (It should be noted that Ontario has eliminated both the PST and GST, replacing them with harmonized sales tax, or HST, of 13%, which changes the sales tax on some items.) There are some purchases which are PST exempt, such as children's clothing. In the U.S., most states impose a sales tax, and cities and counties are often permitted to levy taxes as well, which can exceed 10% on purchases but realistically average at about 6-8%. Five U.S. states do not have any sales tax imposed.^[7] The Canadian province of Alberta and all three territories have no provincial or territorial sales tax on top of the GST.

Some day we will just Annex Canada and Mexico and go with a merged flag covering the Country of North America!