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Still hope you can get the sexy dually tho! In the photo that 3/4 ton looks pretty darn good I think.

Well when you have one, please leave it here.

God I hope your right. I have faith in them too, just not in affordable RWD V8 powered cars. A void they had filled until this April, when Pontiac got the pink slip. 66 don't worry about getting off topic we all do.

All great news! I agree with all the choices but the Corolla for a Cobalt? I would have suffered with the $h!-box another few months and waited for a Cruze.

No, but I am still glad you open your mouth from time to time around here. Even if I like it or not you turn out to be right! On a thing like this I can only hope your right again and we see it soon! (Well yesterday would have been better!) No doubt your one of a kind and were glad you hang around, even if we don't always see eye to eye.

I know that is what irks me, they can do it. Just do it with a car that I want a fullsize V8 powered RWD car that I can fit in without my head hitting. (Like the Camaro with a sunroof! It is the only thing *slightly cramped interior* besides the stupid expensive tires, I don't like about that car!)

Well thank you opening your mouth. It would be the best Christmas gift of all if your are right and we get this SS. Thanks for the encouragement but depending upon what this car turns out to be (SWB or LWB) and or cost, I still wouldn't rule out me finding a way to slip a PPV out the back door. (I am a sucker for steel wheels!) Certainly we don't want you in any trouble with your employer!

Well that is what I hope, but trust me I still could do it, if GM doesn't get its $h! together. Even if it comes and it is SWB model like the G8 I still might find a way to get a Caprice because ever since I saw the Park Ave for China I was in love. God I do hope your right, can you tell us will we be seeing this car on the show circut soon?

Please don't go on about how it didn't turn out to well. The car was poorly marketed at best, and many other mistakes were made like with the GTO. Look at how well the Camaro is doing, oh wait that is car that has been marketed right. There are more people around like me than you think. I can agree the car was fantastic, but I still can't swing one, not now. It is bad timing for the me, the prices are great no doubt, but I still can't do it. As for Mark I will support him if he does what he needs to do, which is world class FWD and RWD cars. So if he misses the RWD portion, yes he will loose my support. That is why I am holding my breath. GM might just get one hell of a letter from me over Christmas break, and trust me it won't be read and nor will it be all sunshine and happiness. I am not asking for a full RWD line-up but a few affordable RWD cars would be nice and just what the doctor ordered.

Look who shows up... PCS wanna give me some inside ball? I'll take whatever you can give me... I might just be that guy who ends up down at my dealer trying to figure out a way to get a Caprice PPV.

I understand where you are coming from and PCS has a history of being right. I totally agree. I actually respect PCS he is a bold guy, and I respect him for that and that is not to say I don't disagree with him sometimes. I am trying to keep the faith but as Camino has said he is in show-me model, and I think that is the place I am going to be as well. The new Camaro was a car I hoped would be so right and it had the spirit, styling, motor, and everything right, just the interior is too small. I don't care about the materials inside not being super soft or fancy but with a sunroof I knock my head sitting in one and I am NOT TALL. I love the car so badly but the it is lacking the extra space I really was hoping it would have. Not to say I wouldn't get one but it is factor in my decision. So that leaves the Caprice PPV, and I certainly hope PCS is right about the Zeta. I want a RWD Impala so bad, with LS, LT, LTZ and SS trim levels a few different motors both six and eight cylinders but can't see it happening. (Because we are getting a FWD EP II based Impala!) We have all been told about great things to come from GM and then only to get them canceled...

While I am at it, here are some great photos of the new Caprice in LA from LeftLane. 2011 Caprice PPV

Mark Reuss, General Motors and Rear Wheel Drive Reading the topic about Mark Ruess I was going to make a response about the upcoming "un-named" wonder known just as the SS. Then I as I got typing my simple response that became a not so simple response but a big concern... If this car actually seeing the light of day. Not that the question put up by someone worrying about the "little issues" getting fixed isn't important it is. (Just not to me!) I am thinking big picture, so here is what I am thinking and actually fear will happen. If this new SS actually is produced, and sitting on dealer lots, I will be thankfully proven wrong! I just believe this car CAN'T happen. I fear this SS will be shown at the car shows and we will get teased for over a year (more than likely) and as the car is ready for production for 2012 model year, gas shoots up and GM pulls the plug. The fact is the Zeta is due for a MCE for the 2012 model year, (maybe 2011, I forget off the top of my head) the Caprice PPV will be getting that also, along with the 3.6L Direct Injection V6. I trust the MCE will be pretty extensive and solve some of the issues... My main worry isn't getting the small issues fixed like the Nav etc. It is actually getting the car. Yet another reason I fear it won't make it is the name issue. Caprice will be taken in the form of the LWB Zeta for police/government use. So the Caprice SS is pretty much out as I assume this will be a SWB model. Then comes Impala SS what this car should be called, and leave the Malibu to do Camry and Accord battle. Then I ask how can you call this car the Impala SS when the "other" Impala is a totally different car, FWD and EP II based? Then the idea of calling it just SS arises like the 2003 red show car, but that is confusing and creates many problems too. So what historic names are you left with, that will do this car proud? Chevelle and sorry Chevelle would work on a smaller RWD but no fullsize RWD performance sedan. So what will they name it? I think that is a HUGE issue. In my heart I would love to see this as the Impala SS, but really doubt it. So to recap thus far we have gas prices, the name and then all the unknown issues that could come along... Then there is CAFE and that will be last blow to this car and will kill it. Sorry. I am in show me mode with anything RWD from GM. I am truly more worried about seeing the car period, especially sitting on the showroom floor than I am about the little issues, but rest assured if we actually get this un-named wonder it will be a bloodly miracle and won't give a $h! about a Nav or revised seats, etc. Or any other small bull$h!. Seriously, I am a big picture person, and might just send a real formal letter to GM over my X-Mas break. (The aftermarket can fix all that little $h!, but not build me an entire RWD V8 Zeta based high performance full size roomy four door at a price I can afford.) This is why I am not holding my breath even with Mark making his way up the ranks, and Bob back in charge of product. This is all good and helps me see the light... But for every Mark Reuss, Bob Lutz and Ed Welburn there are five Roger Smith era bean counters at GM. How is that for faith? The thing that ticks me off the most is I know GM can do it. I know they can build world class cars, the new LaX, Enclave, G8, Camaro, CTS, SRX, Equinox, and Malibu are all proof! So take the quality interiors, fit and finish, good styling and plug that into a V8 powered RWD four door sedan like the G8 and actually sell it. The G8 to me is the ultimate tease to show just what GM can do. I was not in the market for a car while the G8 is/was out, nor did I have the coin. Had timing been different I would have one next to my SLE. So thus I must wait and get teased with spy photos, show cars and all the bull$h! and rumors for the next 2 years over a car we should have right now called the G8. Seems kind of crazy doesn't it? Then GM dumps gasoline on the fire and displays a lovely Caprice PPV for the POLICE only. A car that effectively meets all my wants/dreams and tells me I can't have one? I have come to find out (almost positive) I can get one if I play my cards right which is all well and good but still don't know if I really want a "cop car". Even if this car comes especially if it is SWB I might just get an L76 Caprice to be different and for the extra room, but really would rather they just never taken away the car that did all of this so well. The G8. GM want to give me a Christmas gift, actually a miracle, build this car. Don't just take about it, tease us with show cars and spy photos and then pull the plug. Actually follow through! Grow a sack and get it done, you have no good reason why you can't do it... So prove to us and yourselves you have the balls to build a world class RWD four door sedan with a real V8. The rest of the world, cars lovers and some of your most loyal fans/owners are waiting.

Well good I hope she enjoys it, and keeps it for a while! It is a great looking car no doubt! V6 RS and SS models are getting really hard to order according to my dealer as well he has a RJT 2LT RS coming in and basic 1LT on the way also. (Great problem to have though!) I can't wait to see the photos also could you post a video of the exhaust I am curious to see how they sound with "just" a six. Thanks for keeping everyone updated. Also love the fact it has no sunroof, that is the way I would spec a V6 'Maro except with the tradtional six speed manual! The sunroof certainly kills headroom on these babies.

Glad she finally got one. Now make sure you get some more photos of it during the day! Also if she ever wants something different, make sure to notify us on C&G she is selling it, because I think alot of us are in love. (And it is not even a V8, I know I am.) Also what features does it have or options?

I'll drink to that, better than Pontiac is Car. I still liked We Build Excitement much better. Then again I am a sucker for the oldies.

Glad to help, check back in a few days for the higher resolution ones, I get from my new and much better scanner.

Camino I found this... I know it is not close but that seems like a darn good price for this thing, and yes it is a GMT-800! Just a slightly different kind of one, and yes I know it is not close to you, but miles are low and it looks to be in great shape. Plow And then there is this puppy with only 66K on the clock... Plow 2

Thanks yeah sorry, that is why I ended up taking the photos. Yeah I know thanks for kind words. Over my X-Mas break this will be taken care of.

I have done this many times before and wouldn't have even posted it, if this was the case. I am picky but not that picky, I would have buffed that out and tried that before going to the body shop. As you can tell from the photos sadly buffing it out or touch paint that I have and use is not the solution.

Thank you Ocn exactly my thoughts. You know how much I care about all my cars. I really do take great pride in them and in taking care of them. I keep my cars ALONG time and keep them nice. I am not one of them whom says good enough, or screw it when it comes to my cars. They are a HUGE investment and treat them as such. Even if they aren't a classic Firebird or Impala! I have a 200 or 250 deductable so it is certainly cheaper than a 500 cost to repaint it. (just my guess) It is getting fixed and that is that, no I have good insurnace on my cars and haven't had any big claims over $500, in the past 15 years! (I am a good client and am not too worried.)

Here are the photos, so I can finally prove the my bumper is done to plastic! Sorry it is still uber dirty part of the reason I don't want to show the photos.

Problem them comes it will need to be painted, and it will be alot of touch up paint. (It still wouldn't look right!) The other half saw it, as it is her primary car and was ticked off! I got the in her poor little voice "why did this happen to my cute lil purple thing" (what she calls the SUV) and said this is getting fixed, and not with touch up paint. That settles that, the insurance company will be getting a call, and I will be forking over 250 bucks most likely, to get it fixed. All because some sh*t head couldn't keep a hold of a cart or just plain didn't give a $h!.

So it sounds like it will be an RS because she wants the big wheels and spoiler. In my view if you get a V6 Camaro and you get a 1LT or 2LT your out of you mind not to get he HID's, 20's, cool badging and spoiler! The only way I would get a non-RS is a stripper with the cool 18inch black wheels. (Would she consider a 1LS, or wouldn't she go for the vintage inspired rally style wheels?) As for the SS, the RS package isn't such a big deal. A 1LT Camaro RS with connectivity package is a nice mid-level car sports coupe for about 26K or 27K. Can she drive stick, if she can a manual trans would take 1K off and she could get the extra goodies.

This is too funny. I hope your mom gets her Camaro make sure its an RS though!