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Absolutely. Whatever you said is so right. But a Camry is quite comfortable as well. Maybe not for David. Its too small for him. But what makes a Camry a Lemming (for him) and NOT a Tahoe, Grand Cherokee, GMT 360 Trailblazer (non SS model) as such? Especially with the amount of sales CUVs and SUVs are getting from North Americans the last decade. Sheeple are following other sheeple and buying CUV/SUVs because these sheeple think CUV/SUVs are safer, more bigger to haul stuff, more comfortable yada yada yada. All not true when compared to their sedan equivalent counterparts. A Camry was NEVER an exciting vehicle in its entire existence. What family hauling sedan is? Was a family hauling sedan ever an exciting vehicle? The point is, CUV/SUVs dont do well in potholes either. They break just like sedans do in potholes. Point is, a Camry hauls just as much stuff as its CUV counterpart. I believe its the Highlander. The only thing the Highlander does better than the Camry is that hatch. It opens up big and tall as compared to the Camry's trunk. But as far as passengers go, same. The Highlander makes it easier to for people to get in and out of as compared to the Camry, but the Camry has a waaaaay lower risk of a roll over. Roll overs are lethal for the passengers inside. Potholes were I come from are brutal too. It dont matter if a car has airshocks, the kinds of potholes we have to deal with makes airshocks a moot point. Unless these airshocks are of the intelligent kind where a camera and a sensor see a pothole before the tires hit it and adjust the suspension travel while passing over the pothole. Point is, to counter what Dave said, people wont buy a CUV/SUV over a sedan because potholes are brutal. Potholes are brutal equally for sedans as for CUV/SUVs. Exciting cars do have stiffer suspensions, and when not equipped by magnetic shocks, do have an uncomfortable ride. Problem is, throughout North America's history of the automobile and hauling families, exciting cars have NEVER had a prominent sales advantage over the mundane. That is true for any decade and its true for any type of vehicle, sedan, CUV or otherwise. Average Joe dad and mom simply dont buy exciting vehicles to haul their families around. In fact, average joe moms and dads buy lemming vehicles because average joe moms and dads are lemmings themselves... Dave does own a GMT360 V8 powered rocket SUV. But he also owns a very comfortable Escalade. The Escalade is not a lemming vehicle and the Trailblazer SS is not either. However, the Escalade's cousin, the Tahoe and the SS's brother, the lesser Trailblazer, these are vehicles that are as boring as they can get. A V6 Camry could actually be funner to drive... The Tahoe might perform better in potholes, as the Escalade as far as comfort goes, but BOTH Trailblazers will punish its occupants, ESPECIALLY the SS, and both Trailblazer trims WILL break suspension parts if the pothole is not avoided or hit in a specific way especially at a higher speed if the driver is not vigilant. And a sudden evasive movement and especially the GMT360, non SS, and it WILL roll over... This is all Im saying. My disdain for CUVs and SUVs goes beyond the realm of excitement... My disdain for these vehicles also include the false narrative of CUVs that CUVs are more comfortable than sedans, safer, yada yada yada. The fact that CUVs also restrict and discourage enthusiastic driving by means of higher center of gravity, unnecessary heft and weight and crappy weight distribution also contributes to this. A Camry may wallow, but you could still toss it around. It will squeal, and complain, but it will do it. It will have heavy understeer. But it will do it. A CUV WILL topple over... Again, not including the performance oriented CUVs that rely on electronic technological wizardry to keep that top heavy $h! box from toppling over.

True. But being a lemming automobile like a Camry or an Accord is no different than being a lemming SUV like a Tahoe... (Suburban has its merits...) But a Tahoe? What is the attraction of a Tahoe? What makes it so exciting? Its not fast... I mean its got a pretty powerful V8 up there, but it does have to lug around all that weight so it doesnt really accelerate with all that much gusto. A V6 lemming of a Camry is pretty quick of the line. Its not bad considering that V6 is ancient. But it does have 300 horses on a very very lighter frame. The Tahoe handles like a whale. So does a Camry. Now do you understand where Im going with the Tahoe bashing? And unto a another SUV. ANY SUV that hasnt been tuned by technological wizardry performance makes like an AMG from Mercedes or M from BMW or a Porsche and Lamborghini SUV... ANY CUV and SUV is the very definition of the word lemming... Now more so than ever. At least in the 1980s, real SUVs were REAL enthusiast type of vehicles... You see that K5? Its covered in mud, right? Today's Tahoe is covered in Starbucks coffee that the soccer mom spilled on it by being distracted by being on her smart phone Tik Toking a cleavage and a$$ selfie and posting it on Instagram...

What does that have to do with anything? A pothole will just as easily break a CUV/SUVs suspension and wheels and wheel bearings and ball joints as it does sedans... And as CCAP stated, most of the family hauling shytty CUVs/SUVs ride on car tires. Their suspension systems are also sedan related. Even if you throw the Jeep Grand Cherokee at me, potholes eat these SUVs up as well. The fullsized BOF SUVs from GM and Ford? With all that heft? Those just CONTRIBUTE to even shyttier roads... David, honestly, get off that SUV high horse. You dont fit in the smaller sedans and that is cool. But just because you only fit it the bigger SUVs, dont knock the sedan just because you dont fit in a sedan. Yes, people in North America have run away from the sedan. Yes one of the reasons is because the sedan has become small. But CUVs have bamboozled people in thinking that CUVs are bigger than their sedan counterparts. They are not. They are taller. Not bigger. Taller also means ease of entry. But ease of entry does not mean bigger. Also, taller is somehow equated to being safer. Which is false false and more false. Higher center of gravity also means more chances of a roll over. We've been down THAT road before, and whether you believe that to be true or not does not make me care all that much. Why? Because physics guides me. I dont know what guides you if you dont believe in higher center of gravity CUVs actually have a more percentage of a roll over than a lower to the ground sedan... You do you. But dont be talking a smack game about CUVs and SUVs absorbing potholes better than sedans because that narration is pure bull.

Cool place. But HATE to break it to ya. Cars could do THAT just fine. Oh no.... NOT big American land yachts of yore. But little Euro jobs. You are forgetting that Europe, mostly ALL of Europe is exactly like that. Ive been to my mom's village many a time. Done many donkey trails, by foot, by donkey and by...small Japanese and European autos. And these trails were narrower than what that first video showed me. BTW, the cars that I rode in were FWD Daewoos and Renaults and countless of RWD BMWs, Mercedes and Opels. A Mitsubishi Galant coupe as well. (the Dodge Challenger here States side in the early '80s) And Im not talking about the main roads either. And those are scary enough. No...Literally donkey trails up mountain sides leading nowhere but to other donkey trails connecting villages and farm lands when as short cuts as the main roads take too long to travel because the main roads follow the curvature of the mountain. These donkey trails cuts through the mountains. Steep and dangerous...by foot. Anything else is just suicide. Including being hauled by a donkey...

Tonight's a night where there are no more chances. The Blues better buckle down and play their style of hockey. Hard and gritty. But NOT to solely target Kadri. They tried to get revenge but the bum got a hat trick. He played an awesome game though. The kind of game that the Blues played makes players like Kadri salivate and rise up to the challenge. The Blues just got to play hard, and force Kadri to make mistakes. And dont kid yourself, he WILL make mistakes.

pesty shytty Kadri... He doesnt deserve, no human deserves the racist shyte and death threats he and his family got from so called fans. If you could even call these folks as fans. But he does need someone to fix his little red wagon as was said once upon a time ago. A couple of his hits were actually accidental and part of a legit hockey play. But a couple of others, not so much.

Oldshurst to CCAP: "Maybe you could join the IRL like most of your hockey team... " CCAP reacts:

Cant argue there. I mean, like how you and Robert have stated. The...physical part of growing old and all that comes with ageing. The eventual physical and mental deterioration kind of stuff. But...what keeps ME alive and reminds ME of being young is NOT having to drive around in clunky, boxy, crappy SUVs... because MY body is still vibrant and youthful. Oh...and my mind still thinks like Im a 15 year old. Sometimes like Im 21. Sometimes like Im 31 or 41. Ask my wife. She will even tell you I sometimes behave like a 2 year old!!!

https://www.motortrend.com/features/1970-pontiac-gto-muscle-car-shot-to-death-in-texas/

It was over before it even began. And if you were delusional about the Bruins actually beating the 'Canes, it was over when Domi scored in the 1st. Bruins never had a chance. I was wrong about the Bruins losing 4 straight or in 5. But I knew the Bruins didnt have that 2nd line center to make a deep play off run. They ran into the 'Canes round 1, they didnt have a chance to get past round 1. That much I knew. Therefore, I was happy that the Bruins actually made it to a game 7. Now Im sad because I dont know what Bergeron will do. Lace it up for another year or retire. I wont be sad if he decides to retire, because he gave hos body and soul to the team, Ill be sad to never see him play again... I dont think he'll sign elsewhere. I think he will call it quits.

There was once upon a time when shooting it up about cars surfin' the webs was an actual thing. Eons ago, many posters were posting and chatting up fun little thread games. I done a lot of soul searching during these little thread games and learnt a lot about what kind of cars I truly liked and disliked. I also learned a lot about cars I didnt know existed and other times, simply had forgotten other cars that did exist. Many different points of views were shared. It truly was a blast. Anyway, I was just thinking about wagons the other day, and I posted this exact post in an attempt to resurrect a thread. The post went through but didnt make it. Long story short, I copy/pasted it here with an edit for an explanation. Anyway... I have learnt that I am not much of a wagon guy, but over the course of 120 years or so of the history of the automobile, there have been some wagons that I wouldnt mind owning to chauffeur my wife and kids around lugging our family's crap around. I dont remember all the wagons I chose in those threads but these 5 wagons I know I truly liked then and I still like in 2022 and I know I will always like. 1 2 3 4 5

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I was waaaaay off. Bruins survived and onward to game 7. Whowoodathunk that? Many 'experts' thought that apparently. They would STILL be wrong tho...

There was once upon a time when shooting it up about cars surfin' the webs was an actual thing. Many interesting things I learned during this time. I have come across a topic like this one about wagons several times. I have learnt that I am not much of a wagon guy, but over the course of 120 years or so of the history of the automobile, there have been some wagons that I wouldnt mind owning to chauffeur my wife and kids around lugging our family's crap around. I have done that soul searching research eons ago when many posters were posting on fun little game threads what seems like a different time...and possibly a different place. Not really, as fun little thread games happened here too... I dont remember all the wagons I chose in those threads but these 5 wagons I know I truly liked then and I still like in 2022 and I know I will always like. 1 2 3 4 5

I like the TourX. I prefer the Regal. But, I prefer the previous gen by a looong shot, even though the previous gen was smaller and stubbier looking. I truly truly liked this gen. I still prefer the Impala of this era over both

Common David... Stop trying to sell. Nobody is buying it. 1. Germans are NOT tiny people. And German OEMs do actually engineer their cars for their home market first. 2. At 6'6" tall and a body builder, a serious and pure body builder at that, you are definitely amongst the BIGGEST and LARGEST of us humans. A human with less muscle mass and less vertical height than yourself does NOT constitute tiny. 3. What Im trying to say is that, YOU do NOT represent the average human height and build regardless if you are of German decent. Germanic folk are amongst the biggest of humans and you tower your fellow Germanic folk. Therefore you reserve no right to stipulate that certain German cars (Porsches) are built specifically for tiny people. Its not that people smaller than yourself are tiny. Its just that YOU are HUGE. I, at 5 foot 6 and half inches tall...cant even bee considered tiny. Im tiny to YOU, but Im just slightly smaller than average human height. But to ALL humans ALL across this planet, YOU are a beast of a man. Its all perspective, sure. But YOUR perspective of certain German cars (Porsches) are built specifically for tiny people is SERIOUSLY flawed. To put it mildly...

He seems so cramped and UNcomfortable trying to LOOK comfortable, the whole scenario looks like it could be a Charlie Chaplin comedic act

Yeah, ugly. But, you could get in and out of it with ease...

Isnt that the Avista of half a decade ago? Yeah, sure. I LOVE it even. But it was just a styling exercise. On CUVs. The sedan that had that Avista face was bought out by a French conglomerate when GM got rid of Buick's German mother, Opel.

Yet Acura still produces this sedan without slowing down. And Acura continues to fine tune it for enthusiasts. And funny enough, Acura re-introduced a fan favorite. I am not saying if it is any good or a worthy successor to its legendary ancestor. Just that Acura is more in tune to give an enthusiast a car an enthusiast craves as compared to Chevrolet. Chevrolet is more in tune to produce what the general market is leaning towards. Acura is (and even Honda) is geared more to the enthusiast regardless what you WANT to see at a Honda/Acura dealership... Thee ILX is just replaced by the Integra. And let us not forget that Acura also sells this: And Honda has concepted these 2 little EV guys 2 years ago. Both NOT CUVs but actual cars. Coupes even... Yet Chevrolet is STRONGLY hinting that the Camaro will BECOME an EV CUV. I woudnt have the idea that Acura builds mundane pods if I were you... They maybe ugly, but they ARE geared for the enthusiast. To boot, they produce enthusiast vehicles that some of us actually could call them cars and NOT utility vehicles...