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Id like to add: Because it seems NOBODY wants to talk about the REALITY OF WHY manufacturing will NEVER come back to North America no matter WHAT kind of monies we throw at it to try to bring it back. And FYI, NOBODY is REALLY investing in ACTUALLY bringing back manufacturing to North America... PRELUDE Nixon opened up the door to do trade with China. (not a bad thing) Reagan allowed Wallstreet and corporate America to move manufacturing from the US to China. (In hindsight, a very bad thing for what it was to be) CHAPTER 1 The industrial revolution arrived. It supercharged the British Empire and it helped to introduce a young country into being a very powerful nation in the decades to come. We are here to talk about the young nation and not about the British Empire. CHAPTER 2 Ultimately, the industrial revolution brought many innovations on how to produce and manufacture even more efficiently and faster. It helped win a world war or two and the last man standing so to speak allowed this young nation become almost the sole superpower on the planet. CHAPTER 3 Many many many products were produced. Many many new technologies came to be that introduced a new modern society. And those new modern products also brought with them NEW MANUFACTURING TECHNIQUES. CHAPTER 4 Remember when I said that this new nation rose up to the challenge to help win a world war or two? Well, it was the industrial revolution ace up the sleeve that the USA had and the sheer amount of war machines produced efficiently and with speed was the key to these victories. Especially that last world war. When the war was over, the USA enjoyed the technology of mass production that was the envy of the world. (remember the bolded part.) CHAPTER 5 Eventually, manufacturing left the USA to go to China. The world followed suit. China produces the world's gadgets. CHAPTER 6 (THIS IS THE IMPORTANT CHAPTER THAT NOBODY TALKS ABOUT) China has invested TRILLIONS of dollars in manufacturing. Why? THE WORLD depends on it. China holds itself PROUD to be the world's producer of goods. China wants to CONTINUE TO BE the world's producer of goods. So...China has upgraded their manufacturing plants to be very very state of the art. They will CONTINUE to INVEST not only in monies to ALWAYS RENOVATE their manufacturing plants, but they TEACH their populace to go to ENGINEERING schools so they could ALWAYS have STATE OF THE ART MANUFACTURING. CHAPTER 7 (ALSO IMPORTANT THAT NOBODY TALKS ABOUT) The USA actually stopped renovating in manufacturing looong before the manufacturing plants left for China. But that is not the issue. The issue is, there are NO monies invested RIGHT now to bring back manufacturing. There are NO plants being built. LOL tariffs... And where are those monies from the tariffs? No American company has invested in manufacturing plants to be built. No American company has worked with AMERICAN engineering schools to teach graduating students to manufacture goods in the USA to actually be with techniques of the early 2000s let alone 2025. Loooooong gone are those 1930s/1940s/1950s techniques... We are in 2025 let us not forget. The USA doesnt even have the TOOLING of those 1930s/1940s/1950s plants. Those were sold to China and elsewhere in the world, but those metal tooling dies right now, have probably been recycled. NEW technologies to manufacture... CHAPTER 8 (A TRUTH THAT WILL PROBABLY HURT BUT DEFINITELY NOT TALKED ABOUT) A certain American does not favour education. This certain American favours ignorance. MOST Americans do NOT want to work in a factory. But ALL Americans do NOT realize MODERN factory work is NOT how it used to be. To be fair, Apple iPhone workers in China committing suicide because of shytty work hours is also loooong gone. But then again, American media does not allow for American peoples to know what a modern manufacturing plant consists of. Also, engineering is too hard for those subset of Americans to actually learn how to manufacture goods in a modern state of the art way to not only compete with China, but to surpass their prowess in manufacturing to BRING BACK manufacturing from China to the USA. CHAPTER 9 (ALSO IGNORED) And even if, some manufacturing plants came back to the USA. There is something that we learned DURING the industrial revolution that says the USA will NEVER get ANY manufacturing plants back. Sheer volume. The WORLD has China to produce its goods. China will ALWAYS remain CHEAPER to produce there just BECAUSE of economies of scale. The skilled labour is in China. The raw materials are shipped to China to produce whatever you want to produce. ALL the plants of whatever you have thought of producing whatever you want are ALL in China. All kinds of different ports exist in China to accept ALL kinds of RAW materials. ALL the ports are huuuuuge in China. ALL the ports are state of the art. The BOATS to ship ANYTHING ALL OVER THE WORLD are ALL in China. The boats are huuuuge and the ports could accept them. And ALL that coordination is done by STATE OF THE ART communication, education and logistics. PS: China and the Chinese government subsidize world ports. The USA once did that... The USA declares the Panama Canal as their own. Past history is past history in subsidizing the canal, but China actually finances it PRESENTLY to open up a bigger canal. The USA whines abut the name of Gulf of Mexico.... In 2025, CHINA is the envy of the world in manufacturing techniques. No...manufacturing is NEVER coming back to the USA. Forget about tariffs, ICE agents, DOGE, assassinations, school shootings and everything wrong (or right) about right wing politics and left wing lunacy. THOSE are just ADDED reasons NOT to do business in the USofA.

I love when it our Prime Ministers are passionate about hockey!!! https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6619565/2025/09/11/hockey-connor-mcdavid-mark-carney-canada-extension/ “Let’s face it. We are in a crisis,” Carney said. “The global trading system has been upended. Supply chains have been destroyed. McDavid is unsigned. This is not a transition. This is a rupture. It’s in times like these you have to draw back in and remember what you have. Draisaitl. Hyman. Nugent-Hopkins. We’ve got to draw on those strengths. We’ve got to draw on those values. “And Connor, if there’s anything we can do in the upcoming budget. We’re spending less, we’re going to invest more so we can bring that Cup back to Canada.”

Now that thoughts and prayers were had...and flags were masted in half. But not for Minnesota Democrat legislators though... A post that I did before all this excitement happened. So we could get back to car business and show yet another Trump busllshyte action will affect the USA negatively. Well well well. It seems that Canadians are asking our government to look into easing off on our tariffs on Chinese EVs. 1. Western Canadians who produce canola oils are suffering due to the fact that China has tariffs on our canola oil. 2. China has demanded that we take off our tariffs on their EVs and they have put tariffs on all kinds of our products. Beef etc... But China seems ready to negotiate if we ease off on their EV tariffs. 3. Canada has followed the US on that because: a) US is (was?) our business partner... b) We also have an invested interest as GM, Ford and Chryco do have manufacturing plants running in Canada c) But...tariffs on Canadian built cars by the US are not good for our economy either. And a direct result of that is that Canadian msrps have skyrocketed as well d) Even though Albertans for the most part are luke warm on EVs in general, big oil has managed to dupe them just as much as big oil has duped 'Mericans on EVs... Albertans are willing to forego Canada's tariffs on Chinese EVs e) Canadians ALL ACROSS Canada are now favoring to for Canada to ease up on tariffs on Chinese EVs as i. Canadians realize that we need to de-couple from the US and find NEW trading partners, even i that means to do business all out with China ii.Tit for tat. We eliminate tariffs on Chinese EVs, they eliminate tariffs on our products. iii. Who needs American cars, expensive American cars, when we could buy cheap Chinese EVs. This will sink GM, Ford and Chryco if Chinese EVs flood our market. And in turn will sink the USA. If China augments their prices on their cars in the future, well, so be it. Trump, Maga and everybody else that doesnt seem to understand what it the hell is going on right now, it is time to wake the phoque up and stop this nonsense. It is still not too late for the US to pick up the mess they have created unto themselves. But come 2026, I thing its going to be too late. The US as a leader in anything will be gone. No global influence. No global financial partners. No nothing. And in turn , the US will slowly become a country with uber rich peoples, and uber poor. With never a hope in being a country governed for the people by the people. https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/autos/article/ottawa-considering-scrapping-tariffs-on-chinese-electric-vehicle-tariffs/ https://www.thealbertan.com/national-business/ottawa-hasnt-heard-directly-from-china-on-ev-tariffs-agriculture-minister-says-11188279 https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/autos/article/ottawa-considering-scrapping-tariffs-on-chinese-electric-vehicle-tariffs/

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PHOQUE CHARLIE KIRK!!! I wonder if he gets to go through the Pearly Gates... Ill find out soon enough. When I die, if I see him in Hell, Ill ask him why are you here? He will tell me. And then he will ask me why Im here and Ill tell him that I wished him death...

Is THIS messed up? Do you think this is messed up? Declaring war on your own people. Declaring war on your neighbor by annexation. Is that messed up? Is this messed up? How about this? Is this messed up? Or are you declaring ignorance??? Ill repeat... Maybe Trump declares WAR on Utah now that Charlie Kirk has been shot...and apparently has died!!!

Why is it messed up? Because I am a good Christian? Or are you a good Christian and YOU push that good Christian shyte on me? Anyway, Who told you THAT nonsense that Im a good Christian? I am not a good Christian. So...why you judge me. It aint up to you to judge me... God will judge me so phoque off with your judgey bullshyte... PS: I did not say I wished him dead. I said I hope the phoquer dies. I do not care how he dies or when. (implying) One day. One day he will. One day...we all die. Why do I hope the phoquer dies? Well...firstly...thoughts and prayers to him. But...he and only he knows of the sins he committed. Being such a good Christian himself and not taking gun violence seriously himself. But when he dies. Today, tomorrow, in 80 years from now. I surely will be curious to see if what his status will be when he tries to get through the Pearly Gates... Oh well. 2nd Amendment rights... He is fighting the good fight and thoughts and prayers to him. And may he not die ironically.

Its coming... https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/conservative-activist-charlie-kirk-has-been-shot-at-an-event-at-utah-valley-university-a-spokesperson-says/ Charlie Kirk got shot. Was he just shot at or shot and got wounded and how badly? Do not know and I do not care. Personally I hope the phoqer dies. I do not care how he dies or when. But when he does die, Im more interested in what his status will be when he tries to go through the Pearly Gates... Anyway...Where? In Utah at a college event apparently. Utah. A red state I presume. Will Trump deploy the National Guard? You now...to quell the violence... Phoque Charlie Kirk. Phoque Trump Phoque Utah (Except the Mammoth. Hockey is CANADA's GAME!!!) Phoque Red States Phoque the US

Well well well. It seems that Canadians are asking our government to look into easing off on our tariffs on Chinese EVs. 1. Western Canadians who produce canola oils are suffering due to the fact that China has tariffs on our canola oil. 2. China has demanded that we take off our tariffs on their EVs and they have put tariffs on all kinds of our products. Beef etc... But China seems ready to negotiate if we ease off on their EV tariffs. 3. Canada has followed the US on that because: a) US is (was?) our business partner... b) We also have an invested interest as GM, Ford and Chryco do have manufacturing plants running in Canada c) But...tariffs on Canadian built cars by the US are not good for our economy either. And a direct result of that is that Canadian msrps have skyrocketed as well d) Even though Albertans for the most part are luke warm on EVs in general, big oil has managed to dupe them just as much as big oil has duped 'Mericans on EVs... Albertans are willing to forego Canada's tariffs on Chinese EVs e) Canadians ALL ACROSS Canada are now favoring to for Canada to ease up on tariffs on Chinese EVs as i. Canadians realize that we need to de-couple from the US and find NEW trading partners, even i that means to do business all out with China ii.Tit for tat. We eliminate tariffs on Chinese EVs, they eliminate tariffs on our products. iii. Who needs American cars, expensive American cars, when we could buy cheap Chinese EVs. This will sink GM, Ford and Chryco if Chinese EVs flood our market. And in turn will sink the USA. If China augments their prices on their cars in the future, well, so be it. Trump, Maga and everybody else that doesnt seem to understand what it the hell is going on right now, it is time to wake the phoque up and stop this nonsense. It is still not too late for the US to pick up the mess they have created unto themselves. But come 2026, I thing its going to be too late. The US as a leader in anything will be gone. No global influence. No global financial partners. No nothing. And in turn , the US will slowly become a country with uber rich peoples, and uber poor. With never a hope in being a country governed for the people by the people. https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/autos/article/ottawa-considering-scrapping-tariffs-on-chinese-electric-vehicle-tariffs/ https://www.thealbertan.com/national-business/ottawa-hasnt-heard-directly-from-china-on-ev-tariffs-agriculture-minister-says-11188279 https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/autos/article/ottawa-considering-scrapping-tariffs-on-chinese-electric-vehicle-tariffs/

Stellantis gives us a muscle car EV. Its huge. Its heavy. And for an EV not very fast either. And fast gotta be a criteria BECAUSE muscle car. Not very good. Its OK but not where its gotta be. It had to convince people that EVs can be muscle cars. Tall order when a Hellcat is the ULTIMATE muscle car. Plus, the US populace is a mixed bag of schizophrenic meth addicts strung out on gasoline and false thoughts of being un-patriotic. Like teenagers trying to find themselves who they are. As if a phoquing gasoline powered car really defines ones culture... As if V8 powered cars are solely American... As if Benjamin Franklin wasnt American (you know...lightning and an umbrella or something like that) and Nicola Tesla didnt have ANY connections to America either...) Mis and dis information DOOMED the Charger Daytona EV even BEFORE it became a thing. Maybe Stellantis should have given us a small, Bolt competitor named the Dart, instead of making the Dart what they actually made it into, give Bolt a run for its money, force GM NOT to cancel the Bolt in the first place, but force GM to replace it IMMEDIATETLY with an Ultium battery upgrade 2 years ago, sell as many units for both OEMs and drive the fear into Chinese OEMs from EVER selling in the North American market. Or at least delay it for maybe another 5 years or so. Of course mis and dis information should not have existed in the US in the first phoquing place. And an EV Dart along the likeness of a Bolt and maybe masculine cuteness if you will (Dodge...) and beat Renault to the punch in Europe. Its not as if there wasnt any market value in Europe either. VW was doing its EV thing in Europe with the Greek isle thing and other projects. And let us not forget the Nissan Leaf. Forcing Nissan to vastly improve upon its Leaf and be better than the Bolt. Heck, the Leaf was on par or better than the Bolt. Then Kia with their offerings too. There should not have been any fear for Chinese EVs in 2025... Its not as if the world was not screaming for a small affordable yet capable EV at that time. Tesla was being called out on it. The Model 3 was a runaway success. A competitor to the Model 3 was deemed necessary. And quite honestly, NOTHING from ANY WESTERN manufacturer to this day has an honest answer to the Model 3. But a western OEM did have a small EV that could have defined what a small EV could do. And THAT would be GM with the Bolt. But mis and dis information let Chinese OEMs take over in that market niche. Ya'll been duped by a whole lotta grifters imho.

Why was the Bolt canceled in the first place? Why did GM re-direct its plans when they got backlash 2 years ago when they canceled the Bolt? Where is Ford in this category? Where is Chrysler? Chrysler is Stellantis... Stellantis has French OEMs, you know, Citroen and Peugeot. Renault is a DIRECT competitor to Stellantis in France. What you gave me as a response are non-American OEMs... GM had this very vehicle in the Bolt 1.0 5 years ago... They canceled it, got backlash and brought it back. But its still in hiatus waiting for it. And its not as if GM had a flop on their hands with the Bolt 1.0... In the USA, mis and dis information rules the news. I wrote about this when it first came to light. From 2020. 5 years ago. https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1130195_vw-project-to-transition-greek-model-island-to-electric-vehicles-renewable-power update from 2021 https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volkswagen-delivers-electric-cars-help-greek-island-go-green-2021-06-02/ update from 2022 https://www.autoweek.com/news/green-cars/a39784275/vw-astypalea-greek-island-electric-cars/ https://evannex.com/blogs/news/the-greek-island-of-astypalea-becomes-a-test-bed-for-the-volkswagen-group-s-evs?srsltid=AfmBOoo2KSjf8VkGvTEjxZT1pRK8h9BJn4tm55DvCKyys73C5C71p1cO https://www.carscoops.com/2022/04/volkswagen-delivers-first-privately-owned-evs-to-its-greenified-greek-island/ and update from 2023 https://www.electrive.com/2023/06/14/vw-transforms-greek-island-into-mobility-and-green-energy-showcase/ We are now closing in on 2026. I was not taken seriously when I first wrote about this in 2020 or 2021. But what has our society in North American done in those 5 years regarding EVs? We continue on playing with ourselves with mis and dis information. Keep in mind this is on a small Greek island. Greece aint exactly an economic powerhouse. But there was a vision. VW too had a vision. Plus this was a launch pad for VW to see how the tech would function on a larger scale. Including their EV tech. The Bolt 1.0 with older battery tech mind you, is VERY competitive to this DAY with these present day offerings. All you got from my opinion is too try to get a gotcha moment instead of actually think about what was really said. What I was actually opining about. The US HAD this thing in the bag. There was no need to fear China and Chinese EV start ups. There was no need for 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs BECAUSE GM HAD the tech to overcome ANY Chinese EV onslaught. GM also had the production and sales to offset any price wars. If the populace wasnt duped into thinking that EVS = bad and un-American. Then there was Tesla... The LEADER... Too bad divisive political bullshyte got in the way. Too bad mis and dis information got in the way for greed and ignorance. Too bad hatred and racism and fascism got in the way as well. Did you get your gotcha moment?

I read the comments. Ill add some of them as my own in my own words as I agree with those comments. I do agree with the technology, as harsh as it may come for some older drivers to hear the truth about their possible fallen driving abilities and eye sight and coordination and decision making/perceptions etc... But...this technology could ALSO be used to determine how mature young drivers are. How responsible 30-40-50 and 60 year old drivers are. Driving is a privilege. NOT a right. If this technology could PROPERLY determine if older drivers could be safe and continue to drive, then THIS technology could ALSO be used to determine EVERYBODY ELSE IN ANY age group to determine if these drivers are mature, responsible and not delinquents to be able to drive RESPONSIBLY and safely. Therefore I am ALL for it. IF...this technology will be used for everybody. NOT just for old fogeys. BUT...this technology better NOT be nefarious in ANY way... If it could be used nefariously...then PHOQUE OFF with this shyte!!!

America has lost the plot. We could make fun of European cars. Europeans. Chinese cars. Chinese. ALL. WE. WANT. But, look at the video. FORGET the narrative on the video. JUST LOOK WITH YOUR OWN EYES AND MAKE YOUR OWN ASSUMPTIONS... 38 000 US dollars (for the Euro market. I doubt it could be that cheap in the US but THIS is what we need for the US and Canada). 3100 lbs. 150 HP. 250 mile range. 40 kw/h and 52 kw/h batter. 2023 Chevrolet Bolt 30 000 US dollars. 3500 lbs. 200 HP. 259 mile range. 65 KW/h battery (not the ultium battery) The thing is...AMERICA HAD THIS VERY THING WAAAAAAY BEFORE!!!! BECAUSE of mis and dis information, America is waaaaaaay waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind the 8 ball now. Stupid stupid stupid... Fun fun fun little Renault is all I know. And no...with 250 mile range and at 3100 lbs, there is noooooo need for a bigger, heavier battery. Better charging infrastructure yes. But all this time rubbing our ass cheeks doing nothing, cars like the Bolt or Renault 5 EV could NEVER be given a chance in the US. (mis and dis information). So whine and complain about how cars are expensive and boring but be happy to buy uber expensive EVs. SUV EVs at that. PS: it seems that in Europe, EVERYONE wants the Renault 5 EV. Chinese EVs? Well yes. But...we got are OWN fun and capable EVs. What about YOU U.S.? 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs so we dont flood the market and destroy GM, Ford and Chryco. But we get to buy more than 40 000 dollars for heavy Blazers, and Mustang Mach E. There is the Equinox EV. But boring as phoque CUV...

That road leads to what was Expo 67. The French pavillion is on the lower island too. Now its the Montreal Casino. And the Montreal casino is on the F1 Grand Prix circuit. Circuit Gilles Villeneuve. La Ronde is Montreal's amusement park. Its on the upper island. The upper Island is called Ile Sainte Helene. The American pavilion is there too, Im not mistake. Now its some sort of observatory. It also houses a fort. As you may or may not know, Montreal was a citadel. And so was that island. The island was expanded artificially. Made larger to accomodate Expo 67 and the Summer Olympics in 1976. It was enlarged by the dirt and rocks and earth when Montreal dug up their city for their Metro (subway) system. The Jacques Cartier Bridge connects Montreal to Ile Sainte Helene (where La Ronde is)and Montreal's South Shore where you could access the Casino, F1 circuit and Habitat 67. Pont Victoria could access (small bridge though) Habitat 67 and the Casino from the other side. Ile Sainte Helene (the upper larger islande) and Ile Notre Dame (the smaller lower island) were summer olympic venues for the rowing and canoe/kayak competitions.

Yes. Cite du Havre in Montreal. And of course it still exists today. The colour photos I posted were from google and I gather they are recent photos at that. The official name of this project is Habitat 67. https://www.habitat67.com/en/ That is a link to tour the site. I think there are a couple appartements that are vacant just for people to see how they are but the vacancy rate is zero. People live there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitat_67 Google maps https://www.google.com/maps/place/Habitat+67/@45.4998316,-73.5462876,1221m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x4cc91af0fd0507f5:0x54874884e30cae4a!8m2!3d45.4998316!4d-73.5437127!16zL20vMDFmXzAy?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDkwMy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D google street view https://www.google.com/maps/place/Habitat+67/@45.5000697,-73.5443526,3a,90y,79.32h,88.58t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sOe96tj2ad1LD5yn4aw5L_A!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D1.4249972270624056%26panoid%3DOe96tj2ad1LD5yn4aw5L_A%26yaw%3D79.31851360322453!7i16384!8i8192!4m6!3m5!1s0x4cc91af0fd0507f5:0x54874884e30cae4a!8m2!3d45.4998316!4d-73.5437127!16zL20vMDFmXzAy?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDkwMy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

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Yup. Disgusting!!! But...no different than anything else involving big money and profits and greed in North American politics and economics. Yes. Even in Canada. Although the Molson Center, now Bell Center, where the Montreal Canadiens play hockey was entirely funded by private monies. The Molson center now the Bell center, was funded ENTIRELY by the Molson family. The beer company who owns the Montreal Canadiens. Who have owned the Montreal Canadiens for a very long time on two occasions. Including all the training faculties for the Montreal Canadiens. The Montreal Expos, if they were to come back, WILL be funded by private monies. The purchase AND the construction of a baseball field. Contrary to what news is out there saying otherwise. The city of Montreal and the Province of Quebec, all political leaders that have been elected to those positions have ALL stated that NO public monies will be given for a possible return of an MLB franchise in Montreal. And ALL Montrealers all agree. And the possible ownership groups and owners involved for a possible return of an MLB team all agree to NOT accept public funds. But...they do require the government to allow the return of an MLB team. Example. Allow government owned land to be bought or leased or even given for a stadium to be built. The city of Montreal to allow pubic transportation to be available and have access points at the stadium etc... One reason why the Expos left Montreal in the first place was BECAUSE the government of Quebec REFUSED to bail out the Montreal Expos and allow public funds to be used for a new stadium downtown. Good decision in my opinion. But that does not mean that Montreal lost some tourist dollars because the Expos were not in town anymore. But that does not mean that billionaires should be asking for tax payer money to fund their projects either. That just means at the very least, billionaire sport team projects should be a PARTNERSHIP between the city/state/province, the citizens of the area and the ownership groups. But in MOST cases, I agree, it does not exist. Greed...a terrible thing. Awesome that your son went as far as he did!!! The Olympics are the WORST for what we are talking about. Pure greed. And yes, its not JUST an American thing. Its a GLOBAL thing. But pro sport teams are more prevalent in the US with billionaire values of pro sports teams in MLB, NHL, NBA, NFL, MLS, girls teams in hockey and basketball, university and college football, baseball, basketball and now even hockey. In Europe, while soccer leagues and teams have just as much worth as American/Canadian ones, there is simply not as many pro sport leagues and teams in Europe. But it happens there too.