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Im still weighing in. I want a Tesla Model 3. But I dont, I want a similar car, a tad bigger, maybe Model S big, maybe a tad smaller, in the price range of a Model 3, that has range of a Model 3. I guess Im waiting for more choices to arrive to fully get on board. But there will be 1 EV and 1 gasoline powered car in the family if I choose to go with EV in the next 5 or so years. I aint giving up my Acura anytime soon.

I do not do streaming. Nor the cloud. I buy DVDs and Blu Ray still. The only thing I do not do are VHS and cassette tapes. I do use a USB key and have transferred some songs from my CD collection to the USB key and use that key in my wife's Fusion. I have downloaded apps where the app converts youtube downloads and saves it on the computer or phone and from there I transfer it on to the USB key. I could go cloud on that, but I refuse to adopt still. I have also used In my Acura, my car has storage for media integrated in the radio and Ive done that.

For new construction, yes, definitely. But existing homes will have to purchase what we are talking about now. No big deal. Much ado about nothing.

As far as writing another check goes.. Well, this is life... Its how we do things. We buy a 500 dollar Playstation. We get 1 game, two at most, but then we fork over 50 bucks each time we buy another game. Then the next gen Playstaion comes along 2-3 years later, we fork over another 500 bucks and the cycle continues...

Yeah...but...like everything else, if everybody will be driving these things in 10-20-30 years, well, cost per unit will decrease because of this thing called mass produced at a very grand scale, because global scale. 10 million cars per year in North America, add another 6-8 million for Europe, add another 12-15 million for Asia. These things will be as common as toasters. And, we will have customized versions of those. Not only Ferrari branded chargers along with the Tesla ones, but New York Yankees and Hello Kitty ones and Cuisinarts and Michael Korrs... Point being, as (if) EVs become more and more popular, so will the chargers. Home entertainment systems became a thing. Home saunas have become a thing Home hot air dryers for the ladies to do their hair was a thing Now its just a little gun... Just like 3D printers are getting steam. Just like the home personal computer is a thing... And all those that I talked about...were indeed thousands of dollars in those times money...

All irrelevant... You still have the choice NOT to install one. All irrelevant... Anything you buy or choose not to buy , or upgrade or remain with a base model or choose a high priced foreign exotic or remain domestic yet still experience supercar performance but not be able to flaunt pompously is a question of want. 59 000 Tesla Model 3 and we add 2000-3000 to that for the supoercharger remains not a 59 000 car, but a 62 000 doallr car. For a Bolt, we buy a 43 000 dollar Bolt but we dont, we actually buy a 45 000 dollar Bolt. If the charger was included in the price of the vehicle and given to you for "free" nobody would bat an eyelash... But maybe some people would complain that they dont need or want a charger... This way, it gives an option to people. One could use their regular 120 volt receptacles if they wanted too... Much ad about nothing, really.

I never liked this roadster. I never liked the BMW Z3 either. Although the current and last generation Z4s seem to be more interesting to me. But I have never liked the small Benz roadster. The SL is another story. But this one, well, truth be told, I am kinda saddened because that means yet another enthusiast vehicle is going extinct. Not a good thing if you are a car enthusiast. Farewell soldier!

It does not matter how much chargers cost to buy and install. Part of the experience of owning an EV. One shot deal expense. A Chevrolet Bolt is still a 37 000 dollar car. If one is to cry even for a 2000 dollar expense, then a Chevrolet Bolt, or any 37 000 dollar car may not be for that person. Maybe Chevrolet's Sonic/Spark is the right vehicle choice. The Leaf may come in at a cheaper price, same thoughts I have for the Leaf concerning this. A charger that even costs 2000 dollars, is just a 5-7% of the car's purchase price. Like opting to buy a regular car, but opting for a $2000 trim package because of better radio, or safety package or body panel enhancements like plastic body panel cladding how Pontiac charged you literally that much (2000 dollars Canadian) over the base SE Grand Am to upgrade to a Grand Am GT. At least a 2000 dollar charger makes your life owning an EV that much easier. But its funny, when talking about a gasoline powered car, nobody talks about the approx. 3000- 5000 mile oil change intervals you must do on it. At Pep Boys (I just googled) it says 34.99 for regular oil or 21.99 with a groupon coupon. For cheap oil... At a dealership, I imagine the price is a lot more. At 100 000 mile ownership at approximately every 5000 miles at 30 dollars a pop, that would be 600 dollars in oil for just about half the vehicles ownership. Now, I just used two comparisons that are apples to oranges to one another, but it gives you a scope of how car ownership has extra "fees" that must be paid to maintain and use your car with ease... One could opt NOT to buy a charger, but installing one at home makes EV ownership well worth the price...of ditching gasoline powered cars forever. THAT is how of little importance is of ponying up that 2000 dollars for a home charger and how valuable and how far that 2000 dollars gets you. Id say much much farther than a better satnav system or plastic body panels for your Pontiac goes...

Def Leppard! Hysteria! I always loved that Town Car. The Cadillac Fleetwood of that era too! I got a slightly different kind of story to tell regarding the Town Car. I used to play this pinball all the time back in the day. Connection to a Town Car? Well, that limo is a Town Car! And I always loved playing that pinball BECAUSE I had a love for a Twon Car. Back then, my friends would all talk about what our favorite cars were. Trying to one up each other with performance stats. Well, sometimes my favorite cars would happen to be either the Fleetwood or the Town Car. Preferably limos. My friends were confused and laughed at me when I told them that. You know, the favorites of the day were Porsche 959s and Ferrari 308s and Corvettes and Testarossas and Countaches and the like...so you could imagine the bizarre choices I told them. Well, my answer to them after all the laughing would be: "How many girls could you fit in a Ferrari? Only one! Well, in a Town Car or Fleetwood, I could fit as many as I want!!! Even more if they were limos!!!" And to this day, I still love those cars for the very same reasons! Albeit I dont advertise that too loudly nowadays. My wife would have my head in a platter!

All this sounds good and all, but you need a city where the lights are actually synchronized. Montreal and the entire province of Quebec does not follow this kind of...um...witchcraft. Why make life easier for us drivers? Also, Montreal is seeing all kinds of roads closures and detours due to construction and repair sites. This will be a thing for the next 10-15 years. Yipee!!! But yeah, could be a good little technology, if it doesnt distract the driver...

10 000 plus horsepower. WOW! Unfortunately, NHRA does not sponsor anything in and around Montreal anymore. We do have the Formula One race. We did have the E-Formule One race. 1 year and done. But the Monster Trucks come each and every year!!! Sometimes twice a year. I wish our new mayor did not cancel the E-Formula Race. But the race was on our streets as the race sponsors wanted it that way and many people wanting to live...and breathe on our summer streets, just plainly got annoyed at the whole thing. Plus it was expensive so the old mayor lost his election because of that race. At least our new mayor, she is a she, quite cute too, at least she wants to extend our subway system AND she also wants our Expos back, like the previous mayor, so its all up to the Tampa Bay Rays to decide if they are going to build a new stadium or not. Because if not, the Expos are back in Montreal within 2-3 years. Yes..Rays will be moving to Montreal. 2 weeks ago, the future owners of the Expos just secured land to build a stadium in the dowtown core. If not the Tampa Bay Rays, then when MLB will expand. That will be in the next 5-10 years. Anyway...back to EV drag racing.

Oh... Got it! Then Casa's post sums it up quite nicely for me!

Ive been to several Monster Truck events at our Big O. Ex-home of my beloved Expos, and sure, the sounds are intoxicating. Im sure top fuel and funny car drag racers make similar loud noises as I never saw top fuel or funny cars racing. I dont doubt anybody for their love for loud pistons firing all their cylinders. In fact, I remember visiting my dad's work several times as a young kid, Canadair, and I remember listening to those CL-215 water bombers start-up and I remember enjoying those sounds too. And the smells. I love the smell of gasoline. I used to remember the old muscles cars driving past me as a youngster and I used to love the smell of leaded gasoline passing me by. I do not know how fast an electric motor could turn (in a car). I do not know how much power an electric motor could achieve (in a car), but I do know that a funny car/top fuel racer can produce easily 7000 horsepower and just as much ft/lbs of torque. I know I said rocket fuel in the post above, I was exaggerating, but what they use as fuel and how much power these things make...well...another exaggeration, well, with that type of combustion and those power numbers, we could go to the moon with funny cars and top fuel racers. Not an exaggeration, but I heard somewhere that they do accelerate like a rocket leaving our airspace. THAT is awesome. I agree, that EVs will get there someday. All the EVs need is the time and the billions of dollars invested in perfecting the powertrains just like their petrol fueled cousins did for the last 50-60 years...100 years.

Yeah. I thought so! Anyway, my thoughts still stand. GM's partnership with Chinese automotive brands, like SAIC, well, I do not think they produce good stuff. I googled some of their stuff and even if the quality is up to snuff, which I dont think it to be true, they arent really appealing anyway. Their SUVs are very derivative looking and their cars look like cheap knock-offs of VWs and/or Hondas... I think they own MG automobiles...of former English decent...and some other cars look like MG cars of the 1990s...YIKES!!! While EVs are important to the Chinese market, GM is engineering their own platforms, and with Rivian, they may not need Chinese platformed EVs for Buick...although good to ease up on the EV costs, but not necessary to use. Selling EVs in China is a whole different discussion though.

Garlits? THE Don Garlits? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Garlits He said in that video that we know the planet is going green. He also said a fool would realize top fuel drag and funny car in the present configuration cant go on. 50-60 thousand dollars to make one run. It may be exciting to watch, but it aint sustainable. And THE Don Garlits is promoting electrics? In 2014? Wow! And I thought the the only way to do a drag race was with gasoline or rocket fuel... But I just realized....even if I havent gone to a drag strip in like 25 years and only twice in my life at that... I realized that although the sounds are great...the thrill aint about the sounds... Its actually the thrill of the fight...er....race itself...to see who crossed the line first or fastest... When we were young, we dragged raced with pods that had gravity as fuel. And the only sound we heard from our racing pods was squeeky wheels if we forgot to oil them up... Bet the EV haterz forgot about that, huh? Oh well...if electric drag racing is good enough for Don Garlits, then EV drag racing is good enough for me!!!