regfootball

for an MSRP of 23k surely you can understand the plastic may be a little cheaper when everyone else is in your rearview mirror. i am gonna have to find one of these babies and drive it, just to satisfy my curiosity.

amen, seriously the temple of vtec pukes gan go eff demselves now

never accuse too many women of being rational. as many of them that BITCH about men being scum, they are the ones that gravtitate to those he-man losers. Bob, we've probably touched on this before....LOL

i didn't think it would happen but the more images i see the more i lust for this car. impractical right now, I'd have one ASAP if I could. this thing rocks. I even like the interior now. the v6 with stick, she is mine. wish they'd turbo it. GM should offer a factory turbo kit for this engine.

HHHMMMMMM, 2 plants and billions invested to conquer the segment. hire a bunch of people. build a $h!ty ass truck, close a plant. throw away workers when you are done. take public money to build said plant and now its worthless. all within a couple years. well, that's ok, the Japanese govt will take care of it. shows you the level of commitment toyota has to the product, doesn't it. toyota and their mediocre fking operation can go to hell.

GMT 360's were nice offerings but never got nice interiors or the powertrain refinements they should have.

looked at the astra xr AGAIN today w/ wife this time and might finally have buy off from the wife, including the manual trans. plus, GM Cd sent me a thing saying they are giving another 500 bonus cash to me. the planets may be aligning.........hows that 4 positive. (which would offset last weeks dour mood at work with layoffs pending) Cobalt SS wins R/T best sport compact comparo (go to see thread) that's positive!

LMAO!!!!!!!! pontiac is carr.....! "G3 arriving soon"!

OJ is a scumbag pond slime, evil, cretin. Worse yet, there were women who chose to go out with or marry him and have sex with him. CHOSE it. he is so evil, you wish very bad things upon him.

why someone who could vote does not really i don't get that. i mean, c'mon, vote for cryin out loud. and satty is right. no reason to gripe if you don't.

btw, mods pls move the thread if i have this in the wrong spot

by the way, HONDA, blow it out your BEEHIND. you didn't even make the comparo. so all you little VTec punks can just go into your corner and sob.

LOL

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?se...article_id=7103

3.19 you had to know it was going to cheapen before the election

question. can the CC be had with a manual trans?

awesome pics lt. thanks! the routan is a nice surprise in the van market. it lacks the dowdiness of the dodge twins. the dash is cleaner and more attractive. It drives decently, even if its not as aggressive as i would like. the brooke shields as spokesperson is marketing genius. I compared the way it drove to the Ford Edge. the steering is lighter and a little quicker than the edge, and aside from a longish wheelbase, the routan felt fairly nimble. the quest might be a bit more lively, and the odyssey for sure feels more skittish, but the routan is a nice blend. its very quiet...where the honda is not. the honda van really has been far overrated. I really think if enough folks drive the Routan, it could spur a minivan renaissance.

there is no reason why opel's lineup corsa astra insignia zafira captiva and whatever else couldn't be successful here. of course, pricing is important. but simple thing like an armrest and a cupholder + good engine power is all they need to differ from their euro cousins. we need to show the uptight euros the joys of sipping on a diet coke while driving. plain and simple, as much as anything MANAGEMENT INCOMPETENCE IN DETROIT is the root of GM's problems, especially since they done ok tackling reducing union wages thing. the only caveat i would add to that saturn / opel lineup....if the astra wasn't here in sedan form, than bring back the Ion. astra, must be 3 door, 5 door, wagon, sedan. did GM ever stop to think.....maybe lacking NAV and SYNC hurts a brand like Saturn? Cmon people, folks are a year or two away from expecting TELEVISION and INTERNET in their cars also. GM never seems to get entertainment and tech in cars. OnStar is left for dead unless they evolve to become an entertainment provider also, I feel. On Star should have purchased XM and Sirius and also aligned itself with Direct TV for cars......and add streaming audio, true NAV, and internet services. GM could seriously lead in incar tech and they choose not to. ANother management failure. that window is gone. Saturn as a brand could really piggy back on being top notch in tech.

x2, the out of money tagline is getting old and tired. if you're out of money, then shut your doors. GM if they had their $h! together could build most of their cars of 4-5 platforms.

what was that uh-boot?

if i were in the oval office with her, someone would be rising to the occasion.

really?

olive garden does indeed suck anyone like HOOTERS?

AB just does suck and they have decor from 1987